"Another 360 to be laid to rest?" or "Desram's Bad Day" or "1080"

souldaddy wrote:
Desram wrote:

Who has an intercooler around here? Recommended or not?

I stopped using mine because its fans are so wimpy. Also, Gameguru said that 3 of his friends' 360s died because the fan on their intercoolers died and blocked the exhaust port. You can have mine if you want :-P

ahh no just one.. but it was amusing that the very device used to help cool the 360 ended up killing it.. heh.. that'll learn him to sit his 360 on the carpet and up against the wall..

TheGameguru wrote:
souldaddy wrote:
Desram wrote:

Who has an intercooler around here? Recommended or not?

I stopped using mine because its fans are so wimpy. Also, Gameguru said that 3 of his friends' 360s died because the fan on their intercoolers died and blocked the exhaust port. You can have mine if you want :-P

ahh no just one.. but it was amusing that the very device used to help cool the 360 ended up killing it.. heh.. that'll learn him to sit his 360 on the carpet and up against the wall..

That kind of irony has real value in life.

I saw a bit of a Discovery Channel show on 'tin whiskers' last night, little crystalline tin formations that grow between the circuits on electronics and can short them out, destroying them. Apparently tin whiskers are proven responsible the loss of several major satellites and scientists are not sure how to prevent them. They see them shortout everything from home appliances to pacemakers.

My first thought was, the death of my 360 or any other gadget I love is probably inescapable.

My second thought was... how convenient for the electronics industry. The lead that was used in circuit boards prevented this from happening. With the environmental concerns over lead of course, they have had to return to using tin in circuitry. Not only do they get the benefit of saving the environment, they will also benefit from know that any electronic gadgets they are now producing with tin in their circuitry will also have a definite lifespan and need to be replaced eventually due to this phenomenum.

I know the 360 isnt due to 'tin whiskers' but that was the gadget that came to mind immediately. I AM a true gamer.

TheGameguru wrote:
souldaddy wrote:
Desram wrote:

Who has an intercooler around here? Recommended or not?

I stopped using mine because its fans are so wimpy. Also, Gameguru said that 3 of his friends' 360s died because the fan on their intercoolers died and blocked the exhaust port. You can have mine if you want :-P

ahh no just one.. but it was amusing that the very device used to help cool the 360 ended up killing it.. heh.. that'll learn him to sit his 360 on the carpet and up against the wall..

It's a sad day in my life when putting my consoles on the carpet in front of the television isn't possible any more. A large chunk of my earlier gaming years were spent with said console on said carpet.. with piles of cartridges laying around me like a fort as I blasted away saving the universe.

Now we can't even put our consoles on the ground -- let alone any normal surface. Maybe I should just hang the 360 from the ceiling with an industrial-strength fan blowing on it so it's cooled in every possible inch.

Desram wrote:

I'd end up paying over a quarter of the value of the machine again just to get it repaired. What I would get back, probably in a month, would be a refurb with no warranty.

Looking at it another way, you can pay four times as much for another machine that might die young like this one. Right now it costs you only $130 to get back a machine that is probably substantially the same as the new one.

The car thing also indicates to me that you should not go outdoors. There's a good chance a tree will fall on you. Stay out of the bathroom, too. That's where all the accidents happen in the home.

92 Grand Am. There's pictures and everything in that thread
The car thing is my big headache at the moment as I have resigned myself to dropping 400 (I just saved 200 on texts so it doesn't hurt too too bad) on a core system.

Hmmm I am tempted to ask you to ship the old unit to me if you intend to get a new one

I would love to play around with a dead console and see if I can bring it back to life like I did with my current Xbox.

Vrikk wrote:

It's a sad day in my life when putting my consoles on the carpet in front of the television isn't possible any more. A large chunk of my earlier gaming years were spent with said console on said carpet.. with piles of cartridges laying around me like a fort as I blasted away saving the universe.

Now we can't even put our consoles on the ground -- let alone any normal surface. Maybe I should just hang the 360 from the ceiling with an industrial-strength fan blowing on it so it's cooled in every possible inch.

Indeed. I think that's why I stuck with the GBA/PS2 at the end of the day. There are great games on both consoles and they are still consoles in the sense that I don't need to spend 1/4th of the cost of the machine just to get it repaired. Neither is a glorified PC. The worst part is that Sony is following Microsoft's lead in this respect. So the last true console may be the Wii.

Either way you're right that there doesn't really seem to be much point in working this hard to keep your 360 cool. At a certain point why not just buy a nice PC?

Let's keep the sarcasm under control. - Certis

It is about the games. However when a console becomes so troublesome as to be harder to maintain than a PC it ceases being a console and you have to start wonder if you shouldn't just play the PC equivalent. Remember that the PC eventually got Halo, Oblivion, etc. So it's not like PC gamers are missing out on much that comes out for the XBox.

The Live service excepted, of course.

Thin_J wrote:
SocialChameleon wrote:

This is the kind of thing that makes me want to trash all my post-N64 consoles, slap on the war paint and fig leaf and run screaming back to PC-only land.

Yeah, it does kind of kill the biggest advantages consoles had, which was that they always generally worked as long as you didn't throw them down stairs or throw them for your dog to fetch or something.

Without the reliability, isn't it just a PC that I can't fix myself?

Ah well. I enjoy some of the games way too much.

Even then it still works.

I will admit that my XBox survived being submerged in a foot of standing water and worked perfectly after being opened an left to dry for about a week.

DSGamer wrote:

It is about the games. However when a console becomes so troublesome as to be harder to maintain than a PC it ceases being a console and you have to start wonder if you shouldn't just play the PC equivalent. Remember that the PC eventually got Halo, Oblivion, etc. So it's not like PC gamers are missing out on much that comes out for the XBox.

The Live service excepted, of course.

They're not.. there are many people enjoying 360's just fine.. its ok to dislike the Xbox 360.. I understand.. lets just not get carried away.. its not like we are looking at a 50% failure rate.. or even a 10% failure rate. I have 2 360's that work fine.. I have a bunch of friends that play their 360's to death just fine.. who the hell will post on forums that everything is fine.. people only post when something goes wrong.. and it could be the same person posting 100 times with different names.

There are many games on the 360 that simply do not exist on the PC.. so again.. lets not get carried away.

Remember.. this is the internet.. not real life.

TheGameguru wrote:
DSGamer wrote:

It is about the games. However when a console becomes so troublesome as to be harder to maintain than a PC it ceases being a console and you have to start wonder if you shouldn't just play the PC equivalent. Remember that the PC eventually got Halo, Oblivion, etc. So it's not like PC gamers are missing out on much that comes out for the XBox.

The Live service excepted, of course.

They're not.. there are many people enjoying 360's just fine.. its ok to dislike the Xbox 360.. I understand.. lets just not get carried away.. its not like we are looking at a 50% failure rate.. or even a 10% failure rate. I have 2 360's that work fine.. I have a bunch of friends that play their 360's to death just fine.. who the hell will post on forums that everything is fine.. people only post when something goes wrong.. and it could be the same person posting 100 times with different names.

There are many games on the 360 that simply do not exist on the PC.. so again.. lets not get carried away.

Remember.. INTERNET. SERIOUS BUSINESS. LOLS.

Fixed.

Replacement purchased. Buyer's guilt, COMMENCE!

...My iPod just died.

I recommend hermitude, away from all the technological marvels your withered hand of tech death corrupts.

Desram is a walking EMP! ...AWESOME.

Seriously though... that blows.

I actually do have a tendancy to kill electronics. Watches just wilt on me.. I call it the Josh Field Effect.

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Did I mention I'm a 4th year Comp Sci major?

Cause you had a bad day
You're taking one down
You sing a sad song just to turn it around
You say you don't know
You tell me don't lie
You work at a smile and you go for a ride
You had a bad day
The camera don't lie
You're coming back down and you really don't mind
You had a bad day
You had a bad day

Stay away from me.

NEVER get a job in a Nuclear reactor on the east coast, please.

Gaald wrote:
92 Grand Am. There's pictures and everything in that thread
The car thing is my big headache at the moment as I have resigned myself to dropping 400 (I just saved 200 on texts so it doesn't hurt too too bad) on a core system.

Hmmm I am tempted to ask you to ship the old unit to me if you intend to get a new one

I would love to play around with a dead console and see if I can bring it back to life like I did with my current Xbox.

Same here, please don't set it on fire before giving us tinkerers a chance to revive it! Maybe you should have a little auction for it? You could possibly get back some of the money you lost on the console that way.

Gaald's already the new owner.

SwampYankee wrote:

NEVER get a job in a Nuclear reactor on the east coast, please.

Oh come on! Indian Point's just BEGGING for this kind of leadership!

Desram wrote:

Gaald's already the new owner. ;)

Whew! Grats Gaald! Let me know if you can't get it working, my dad is a licensed electrician and has seldom run into anything electronic/mechanical he couldn't fix, and I've fixed a thing or two in my time as well

Already taken care of it was sent to Microsoft.

I made an really stupid caught-up in the moment impulse purchase this weekend for one of those intercoolers. Even the salesman warned be that it will probably kill my 360 at some point so I....bought it anyway cause I just wanted to burn $20 and wasn't really thinking clearly. Anyway, has anyone had any positive results from using the intercooler or it basically a device secretly created by Sony/Nintendo to kill off all 360s?

How can you have a positive result? A positive result is... your 360 not dying.

I doubt the intercooler has a 100% kill ratio but testing showed it does not significantly lower the operating temperature of the 360 and that the 360 does not operate even near a dangerous range for the hardware. Its a product based on fear, like gas masks, plastic sheeting and duct tape.

polypusher wrote:

Its a product based on fear, like gas masks, plastic sheeting and duct tape.

You leave our Kentucky Silver* out of this. It fixes everything.

Some people around here even fix their cars with it!

*Duct Tape

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I think I did it again. I'm taking 360 #2 to EB tomorly.