[Discussion] Climate Change

This thread is just to post interesting news, thoughts, opinions about climate change.

"Fun" page on USAtoday.

You can put in your city (or nearby one) and see how miserable and shitty your children's life will be so that Elon Musk, Warren Buffet, Mark Zukkerberg, etc. can have a few more billions!

Hot, hotter, hottest: How much will climate change warm your county?

I am only getting a "significant" change (3degree F) and only 13 more days above 90 in Des Moines, IA

LOL which is actually worse than Santa Fe, New Mexico at "moderate (2.30 degrees) and 7 more days.

Wait till they start hitting 100 deg C.

Spoiler:

You know, next year

I stumbled upon the lovely little fact recently that the last 7 years have been the hottest 7 years on record, each beating the previous one's record in turn.

Thus summer? Hottest summer since records began.

Coolcoolcool.

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What We Knew in 1912:

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This is standard practice in Australia and has been for more than a decade. Any mid-size and upwards meeting will start with an acknowledgement of country.

Oh sure, but I (and OP) are mostly pointing out how empty and perfomative land acknowledgements have become that they're being done before strip-mining a forest.

Polish city urged to evacuate as floods batter central Europe

The mayor of a Polish city has asked all 44,000 residents to evacuate, as widespread flooding continues to batter swathes of central Europe.

Nysa mayor Kordian Kolbiarz asked people to head for higher ground, citing the risk of an embankment breaching and releasing a cascade of water into the town from a nearby lake.

On Monday, the death toll from the floods that hit central Europe over the weekend rose to 16, with more casualties recorded in the Czech Republic, Poland and Austria.

Budapest said it would close roads near the river Danube which runs through the city, citing the risk of flooding later this week.

“Please evacuate your belongings, yourselves, your loved ones. It is worth getting to the top floor of the building immediately, because the wave may be several metres high. This means that the whole town will be flooded,” Mayor Kolbiarz wrote.

Polish Prime Minister Donald Tusk said one billion zloty (£197m) would be allocated for flood victims in the country, adding that Poland would also apply for EU relief funds. His government has also declared a state of natural disaster.

Although conditions have stabilised in some places, others are bracing themselves for more disruption and danger.

In Slovakia, the overflowing of the Danube River caused flooding in the Old Town area of the capital, Bratislava, with local media reporting that water levels exceeded 9m (30ft) and were expected to rise further.

First hand account of climate change... On a dive trip in Roatan right now. I was here 9 months ago at the same place. They have a set grouping of dive sites that you do when you're here so you're always going to visit the same places.

Water temperature high when I arrived was 91, with a low (at 70 feet) of 88. That's WAY WAY too hot for the coral. They like/need 82 or lower. It's now averaging 90 for the high and 88 for the low. "Coldest" dive so far was 86 degrees.... There's so much dead and dying coral and sponges. It's tragic, and I don't see it recovering in my lifetime or even the next generation's.

And-

High tide now creates a lake on the entire back end of the property that wasn't here 9 months ago. It's only 3 inches deep but if it doubles, some of the property is going to have issues with flooding.

Stay safe, southern Goodjers.

The storm has driven everyone online insane.

The Twitter Left is saying we spent all the FEMA money on Israel.

The Right is saying Ukraine.

And the ultra-right is saying that Biden engineered the Hurricane and that the hurricane is not real.

I blame the right. They're supposed to be shooting all their guns at hurricanes, aren't they?

It might be good to spend less time on Twitter, Pred.

Jonman wrote:

I blame the right. They're supposed to be shooting all their guns at hurricanes, aren't they?

Nuclear bombs. Big problems, big solutions, the biggest.

Hundreds unaccounted for and millions without power in aftermath of Hurricane Helene

Elizabeth Sherwood-Randall, President Biden's homeland security adviser, says it is possible that the death count from Hurricane Helene could be as high as 600.

"The current data we have is that it looks like there could be as many as 600 lost lives, but we do not have any confirmation of that," Sherwood-Randall tells the White House briefing.

"We know there are at least 600 who are lost or unaccounted for."

Over 120 dead and a million without power after ‘historic’ Hurricane Helene

As the south-east US continues recovery efforts after Hurricane Helene’s devastation, the storm’s death toll keeps climbing, with more than 120 killed across several states.

Joe Biden will visit North Carolina, where the western part of the state has been devastated by flooding, on Wednesday.

In recent days, the president pledged federal assistance to help with recovery efforts – and has said that his administration is giving states “everything we have” to help with their response to the storm.

“It’s not just a catastrophic storm. It’s a historic, history-making storm,” Biden said on Monday morning. He added that “damage from the hurricane stretches across at least 10 states”.

The US homeland security adviser, Liz Sherwood-Randall, said on Monday that there could be as many as 600 deaths, though the figure has not yet been confirmed.

More than 1 million Americans were still without power in the Carolinas and Georgia as of Monday morning.

Helene made landfall last Thursday night in Florida’s Big Bend region as a category 4 hurricane. Even though it weakened to a tropical storm before moving through Georgia, the Carolinas and Tennessee, the storm’s winds, rainfall, storm surge and flooding destroyed entire communities in its path.

On Sunday, North Carolina’s department of public safety said that supplies such as food, water and other needs were arriving in Asheville, a city in Buncombe county that has seen widespread destruction. The state’s national guard was airlifting supplies into counties across western North Carolina, too, officials said.

“This is an unprecedented tragedy that requires an unprecedented response,” Roy Cooper, North Carolina’s governor, said.

Federal Emergency Management Agency officials said Monday that hundreds of roads were closed across western North Carolina and that shelters were housing more than 1,000 people.

On Sunday on CBS News, the Federal Emergency Management Agency (Fema) administrator, Deanne Criswell, had described the flooding in North Carolina as “historic”, adding: “I don’t know that anybody could be fully prepared for the amount of flooding and landslides that they are experiencing right now.

Over the weekend, more than 500 national guard soldiers helped conduct more than 100 rescue operations in western North Carolina, officials there said. At least 119 North Carolina residents and their pets were rescued.

Cooper has said that the death toll in North Carolina may rise as rescuers and other emergency workers reach other isolated and devastated areas. More than 50 search teams were spread throughout the region in search of stranded people, he said. He has urged residents in western North Carolina to avoid travel, largely so the roads can be clear for emergency crews.

On Monday morning, Cooper appeared on CNN and said that hundreds of roads had been destroyed – and that entire communities had been “wiped off the map”.

“We have to make sure that we get in there and are smart about rebuilding and doing it in a resilient way,” he said. “But right now we’re concentrating on saving lives and getting supplies to people who desperately need them.

“A lot of communities are completely cut off. And by the way, rivers are still rising, so the danger is not over, the flooding is likely not over.”

The University of North Carolina-Asheville said over the weekend that due to the storm’s damage, classes would be suspended until 9 October. The school said that parts of the campus were inaccessible and described “significant tree damage”.

“Cell and internet coverage is nonexistent at this point,” the school also said on Saturday, adding that they were providing security, food, water and comfort to the students who remain on campus.

According to the Associated Press, the storm unleashed the worst flooding in a century in North Carolina.

As of Monday morning, more than 700,000 homes in South Carolina were without power – including more than 500,000 in Georgia and 400,000 in North Carolina, according to poweroutage.us.

In Florida’s Tampa Bay region, the death toll as a result of the hurricane reached nine people on Sunday. All deaths took place in a mandatory evacuation zone, county officials in Pinellas county said.

In Augusta, Georgia, which suffered widespread damage due to the storm, officials are urging residents to limit water use to “essential drinking only for the next 24-48 hours” – a temporary effort to help with the recovery of the area’s water supply.

State officials in South Carolina have announced 25 storm-related deaths in the state so far, according to the Post and Courier, and many residents in South Carolina remain without power.

The National Weather Service office of Greenville-Spartanburg, South Carolina, described the storm over the weekend as the “worst event in our office’s history” in a post on Facebook addressing the residents of western North Carolina and north-east Georgia.

“We are devastated by the horrific flooding and widespread wind damage that was caused by Hurricane Helene across our forecast area,” the post reads. “There are no words to express our sorrow at the loss of life and incredible impacts to property.”

The American Red Cross announced that it had opened or supported more than 140 shelters across the US for nearly 9,400 people driven out of their homes by the storm.

AccuWeather is estimating that Hurricane Helene inflicted between $145bn and $160bn in property damage and economic losses.

Kamala Harris reportedly will visit the areas struck by Helene this week. Her opponent Donald Trump visited Georgia on Monday.

“We’re here today to stand with complete solidarity with the people of Georgia and all those suffering in the terrible aftermath of Hurricane Helene,” the former president said in front of the collapsing brick storefront of Chez What, a furniture and fashion collective in Valdosta. He also turned to spouting falsehoods about the storm and the federal response.

The Homeland Security adviser report of up to 600 deaths is chilling.

I feel for all of the families impacted. And no government money should go to rebuilding in a flood plain.

*sigh* I wish they would stop using the term "historic" for natural disasters like this, it makes me cringe. Historic implies something that has happened in the past. "Historic" gives people an out, and doesn't force them to see what's in front of them. It's going to happen again and it's going to happen more frequently and more intensely.

At least they seem to have moved off of "once in a lifetime". I mean we were up to what 4 once in a lifetime economic problems when they changed the wording? I assume on the 4th historic climate disaster they will find a new word. You know one like unprecedented.

“It’s not just a catastrophic storm. It’s a historic, history-making storm,” Biden said on Monday morning. He added that “damage from the hurricane stretches across at least 10 states”.

Quick, get him a sharpee!
I really do feel for the 600 dead.
But I have to swallow trying not to think of how many of those are in the "hurricanes are no big deal" or "the government always overstates warnings" crowd.
We have that here in CA with wildfires with people that hose down their house and refuse to evacuate

Historic - "Famous or important in history, or potentially so". Oxford English Dictionary. I've never understood it to refer only to actual history.

While true, calling a storm like historic implies that there won't be another one like it anytime soon, that it's historic because it's so unusual. I think that's the part JC dislikes. These storms are not anomalies that we won't see again in the near future, they're the new normal.