NFL 2023: The preseason / predraft thread

Russ drove Rodgers' price down after the Patrick Game.

jowner wrote:

Well apparently the Russ deal was not the same deal on the table for Rodgers because of age concerns.

Supposedly the offer was still at least two 1sts and a 2nd. The Broncos were "all-in" on Rodgers.

And of course, that's aside from the fact that Denver wanted him the year before as well, and what that offer might have ended up looking like. At the time, the expectation was three 1sts and a 2nd.

The Commanders have a bid!

A group that includes Magic Johnson, and is led by 76ers owner Josh Harris, has put forth a $6 billion bid to buy the team.

The bid is fully financed and meets Snyder's asking price.

It may all finally be over soon.

It also meets Snyder's demand that Jeff Bezos not be involved.

The Commanders have another bid!

Canadian billionaire Steve Apostolopoulos has submitted his own, self-funded $6b bid.

Schefter reports there is "growing belief" that the team will be sold before next month's draft.

Third bid?

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Circle your calendars: Aug 29 will be lone preseason roster cutdown date. Every team will go from 90 to 53 players on the same day. MAXIMUM CHAOS!!!

Enix wrote:

Circle your calendars: Aug 29 will be lone preseason roster cutdown date. Every team will go from 90 to 53 players on the same day. MAXIMUM CHAOS!!!

That's wild. Granted, they've been inching that way by reducing how much the intermediate cutdowns actually were. Was there really much value in having a cut to 85 and another cut to 80 before doing the big cut to 53? Back when it was 90 to 75 to 53, that cut to 75 seemed more meaningful.

As for other new news, players can now wear number 0. No 00 though, that still belongs to Jim Otto. And linemen won't be able to wear number 0 anyway, as it will be limited to non-line players (basically any position group that could wear #1 now goes down to #0).

Calvin Ridley immediately tweeted out his intention to wear #0 for the Jags, making him the first player to lay claim to the new number.

I've got an idea what they can spend it on:

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Also, you linked to a Star Trek tweet, you goob.

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Jimmy's unreachable-ness was one of those things that people joked about, but you knew there was some realness behind the jokes.

Jimmy's just one of those guys where, when he's not at work, he's not messing with anything that's about work.

WTF, they just built it.

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NFL players can now wear 0!!!

*Legion* wrote:

I've got an idea what they can spend it on:

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Also, you linked to a Star Trek tweet, you goob.

Link fixed. I think my C key is wearing out.

*Legion* wrote:

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Jimmy's unreachable-ness was one of those things that people joked about, but you knew there was some realness behind the jokes.

Jimmy's just one of those guys where, when he's not at work, he's not messing with anything that's about work.

Try the brothel.

Competition committee is split on whether or not the "QB push" play should remain legal.

I think the play should go, because sandwiching QBs between two masses of bodies pushing in opposite directions has such an inevitable conclusion that I'm surprised it's even up for debate. Somebody's QB is eventually gonna get snapped in half. And as a fan of a team who has already made it a habit of breaking their QBs, I don't need them to have another way of doing it.

Have you considered that the possibility of a replaceable member of the labor force being snapped in half might drive a slight uptick in viewership, and thus money into the owners' pockets?

If it happens to Rodgers or Cousins or Wentz, I'm afraid the COVID will spill out of them, and kickstart the pandemic again.

I call it the QB Leak Theory.

Lamar takes to late night tweeting.

Nothing he tweeted was wrong per se, but the fact that he's up late at night clapping back at people that theorized his lack of return from injury last season was a pseudo-holdout kinda exposes the fact that he's not getting the level of interest from teams that he thought he would.

most expensive WR rooms in 2023:

1. Rams - $51.9M
2. Cardinals - $51.7M
3. Broncos - $42.9M
4. Raiders - $42.0M
5. Jaguars - $39.0M
6. Bucs - $38.5M
7. Browns - $38.3M
8. Dolphins - $36.5M
9. Seahawks - $35.5M
10. Commanders - $32.5M
11. Bears - $31.5M
12. Chargers - $30.4M
13. Saints - $28.1M
14. Bills - $27.1M
15. Bengals - $26.6M
16. Steelers - $25.9M
17. Jets - $25.4M
18. Cowboys - $22.8M
19. Patriots - $22.3M
20. Giants - $21.3M
21. Eagles - $20.2M
22. 49ers - $19.4M
23. Chiefs - $18.6M
24. Lions - $17.7M
25. Texans - $17.4M
26. Ravens - $14.3M
27. Colts - $14.1M
28. Vikings - $13.2M
29. Panthers - $11.9M
30. Falcons - $10.7M
31. Titans - $8.0M
32. Packers - $5.5M

Surprised Ravens are that high. Figured bottom 3 in the 30s

The Bucs are paying a lot of money for guys Baker will throw vaguely near.

Stele wrote:

Surprised Ravens are that high. Figured bottom 3 in the 30s

Not sure if the numbers are accurate. I looked up the figures on OTC, and this is what I found regarding the WR room for the Ravens.

Duvernay is $4.5m
Bateman is $3.1
Agholar is $1.6
Proche is $1.1
Isabella is $.9
Thomas is $.9
Bridges is $.7

Where is the $14.3M?

Paleocon wrote:
Stele wrote:

Surprised Ravens are that high. Figured bottom 3 in the 30s

Not sure if the numbers are accurate. I looked up the figures on OTC, and this is what I found regarding the WR room for the Ravens.

Duvernay is $4.5m
Bateman is $3.1
Agholar is $1.6
Proche is $1.1
Isabella is $.9
Thomas is $.9
Bridges is $.7

Where is the $14.3M?

That's pretty close. I add it up to about 13.8

Those numbers are technically true but kind of misleading.

The 49ers are only spending $19.4m even though Deebo's contract alone averages $23.8m a year. That's because his salary this year is only $1m, and with other guarantees and prorated signing bonus, his cap figure is only $8.65m.

So a lot of what this list shows you is where the team's WRs are in their contract arcs. If their big WRs are at the start of backloaded deals, or at the end of frontloaded ones, the number will be low. If they're at the big cap number parts of their deals, then they're at the top of the list like the Rams.

Looking at an individual year just doesn't tell you much. NFL roster building is all about staggering the payouts to players, so you might have a low number at one position and a high number at another position in any given year, even if you're paying out average salaries when you average out the entire deals over their lifetimes.

Paleocon wrote:

Duvernay is $4.5m
Bateman is $3.1
Agholar is $1.6
Proche is $1.1
Isabella is $.9
Thomas is $.9
Bridges is $.7

Where is the $14.3M?

You're missing Tylan Wallace, who is $1.1m.

You also shorted Bateman by $300k (he's $3.4m).

That, plus the parts we've rounded off, should get us there.

It looks like the Ravens have made OBJ a contract offer. Not that it matters. He's not going to take it as long as no one knows who will be throwing him the ball.

I mean, don't the Raven's have a Pro Bowl quarterback on their roster?

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Paleocon wrote:

It looks like the Ravens have made OBJ a contract offer. Not that it matters. He's not going to take it as long as no one knows who will be throwing him the ball.

The timing and public-ness of this offer is peculiar. It makes me wonder if this is a Lamar negotiating tactic.