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As a now-fully-red-state resident, I concur with that assessment.

I desperately want to leave, because at this point Iowa has crossed enough tipping points that with the careful non-blatant gerrymandering they've been implementing for the past 10-15 years we're a red state and we aren't coming back from that. If we had been able to replace Reynolds as governor this past November I'd say there might still be some hope, but nope. Not even close.

Just gotta get through my daughter's high school years, then once she's graduated maybe my wife would be willing to consider moving, though honestly at this point I don't know where it's worth fleeing to. Wisconsin is tipping further to the right as a state, as is Minnesota. Pretty much everywhere is getting ever more polarized, with jingoistic nationalists the fastest growing group, and while I loathe the sh*t going down in Iowa North Mississippi, we do like this general part of the upper midwest and aren't looking to move to a major urban area, so.... everywhere kinda sucks out of our options anymore.

Farscry wrote:

As a now-fully-red-state resident, I concur with that assessment.

I desperately want to leave, because at this point Iowa has crossed enough tipping points that with the careful non-blatant gerrymandering they've been implementing for the past 10-15 years we're a red state and we aren't coming back from that. If we had been able to replace Reynolds as governor this past November I'd say there might still be some hope, but nope. Not even close.

Just gotta get through my daughter's high school years, then once she's graduated maybe my wife would be willing to consider moving, though honestly at this point I don't know where it's worth fleeing to. Wisconsin is tipping further to the right as a state, as is Minnesota. Pretty much everywhere is getting ever more polarized, with jingoistic nationalists the fastest growing group, and while I loathe the sh*t going down in Iowa North Mississippi, we do like this general part of the upper midwest and aren't looking to move to a major urban area, so.... everywhere kinda sucks out of our options anymore.

We are also considering leaving Iowa. Part of it is political and part of it is the utter disrespect Iowa has for public land (which can have roots in politics). We aren't moving for at least two years since my job affords my two oldest kids free tuition at a private college. Hard to give that up. We have been looking at Wisconsin and Minnesota as well. I think MN as a whole Minnesota is pretty solid blue now. Wisconsin, while not blue at least has Evers. Both are in better situations than Iowa it seems. I figure even if Wisconsin is fairly red at least they have public land where I can get lost in a forest of pine trees or swim in a lake that's not polluted with manure and chemical runoff.

That's the thing that sucks, I came here in the 90's for college and I genuinely liked living here. I've lived here nearly thirty years! But the past ten years have just been an accelerating downhill slide. Your point to the environment is especially poignant, I can't believe how they're allowing our waterways to be so devastated.

Yeah we got out of Florida just in time, in 2015. But now NC is hanging by a thread. 1 vote from GOP supermajority in state. Democratic governor keeping things balanced. If Cooper loses next election though, NC GOP will copy exactly what those other states have done. Abortion ban, open carry guns, etc. is all just one election away.

EvilHomer3k wrote:
Farscry wrote:

As a now-fully-red-state resident, I concur with that assessment.

I desperately want to leave, because at this point Iowa has crossed enough tipping points that with the careful non-blatant gerrymandering they've been implementing for the past 10-15 years we're a red state and we aren't coming back from that. If we had been able to replace Reynolds as governor this past November I'd say there might still be some hope, but nope. Not even close.

Just gotta get through my daughter's high school years, then once she's graduated maybe my wife would be willing to consider moving, though honestly at this point I don't know where it's worth fleeing to. Wisconsin is tipping further to the right as a state, as is Minnesota. Pretty much everywhere is getting ever more polarized, with jingoistic nationalists the fastest growing group, and while I loathe the sh*t going down in Iowa North Mississippi, we do like this general part of the upper midwest and aren't looking to move to a major urban area, so.... everywhere kinda sucks out of our options anymore.

We are also considering leaving Iowa. Part of it is political and part of it is the utter disrespect Iowa has for public land (which can have roots in politics). We aren't moving for at least two years since my job affords my two oldest kids free tuition at a private college. Hard to give that up. We have been looking at Wisconsin and Minnesota as well. I think MN as a whole Minnesota is pretty solid blue now. Wisconsin, while not blue at least has Evers. Both are in better situations than Iowa it seems. I figure even if Wisconsin is fairly red at least they have public land where I can get lost in a forest of pine trees or swim in a lake that's not polluted with manure and chemical runoff.

Most cities are blue here. You get 40 minutes out and anywhere beginning to be rural is red with stupid tendencies. Then you have white suburbia....just as bad as red zones. I live in a 50/50 red blue zone and it is obnoxiously stupid the things you can hear. I am not sure where is our blue topia but we have some refuges.

Wisconsin has gone utterly to sh*t.

Why not become a "coastal elite" in Maryland or Massachusetts? Or Delaware, I guess, though it's kinda liberaltarian.

Wisconsin just ran an election on a district map that every court who saw it declared illegally gerrymandered. The Democratic governor won a decisive victory in the statewide election, but the state legislature is on the knife's edge of being so red that they could override any veto.

Sitting here on the outside it looks less like it's "gone to sh*t" and more like it's been conquered.

H.P. Lovesauce wrote:

Wisconsin has gone utterly to sh*t.

Why not become a "coastal elite" in Maryland or Massachusetts? Or Delaware, I guess, though it's kinda liberaltarian.

Northern Delaware (New Castle County) is liberal to the point that Republican candidates don't put their party on their campaign signs. The two southern counties are rural and conservative but with much lower population levels so the state goes where New Castle County goes.

H.P. Lovesauce wrote:

Wisconsin has gone utterly to sh*t.

Why not become a "coastal elite" in Maryland or Massachusetts? Or Delaware, I guess, though it's kinda liberaltarian.

Due to climate change, there's a good chance any "coastal elites" will end up with an underwater mortgage.

H.P. Lovesauce wrote:

Wisconsin has gone utterly to sh*t.

Why not become a "coastal elite" in Maryland or Massachusetts? Or Delaware, I guess, though it's kinda liberaltarian.

For me it's proximity to family, familiar, cost of living, amount of outdoor activities, and pine trees.

Honestly, we were considering Colorado but the cost of housing there has gotten crazy, even in the less expensive areas like Greeley and Colorado Springs. Plus it's a long way away.

I honestly have never looked into Massachusetts, New York, or really anything on the east coast. I'm not against them I just know little about them outside of the big cities (which are pretty much at the bottom of places I want to live - even Co Springs is much bigger than we'd prefer to live).

We've got at least two years before we move (due to tuition remission) and even then we still have a third child to consider. It's hard to pull them away from their friends since it took a long time to make them again after Covid and online school. Our oldest went to college immediately after Covid and online school. None of the kids he spent any time with went to the same college and he's not going to activities or joining clubs. He's just spending more time online with friends he's made there. I'm not against online friends but for him, that seems to be about it. So I'm worried about the other two, especially the youngest, who has made some good friends this year (and didn't really make any last year).

It would be nice if it were as simple as just politics but for use there's a lot of other factors that muddy the waters (but it's Iowa so it's not mud).

Same here; don't want to move too far from my wife's family, I'm too far into my life to ramp up savings enough to retire in a high cost of living area (hell, even here retirement will be an iffy proposition as it is), we wouldn't be able to afford to live in a high cost-of-living area regardless (we're only around 8 years of equity on this house that's modest even for this low-COL area), this part of the nation (IA/MN/WI) seems to be one of the "safer" bets for the earlier impacts of climate change, and I honestly don't want to live in a region with high population density as violent unrest continues to worsen in the US.

Quite frankly, I wish I'd just emigrated when I was young enough for that to be a viable option, but shoulda-woulda-coulda is irrelevant.

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I wish people would stop writing about what Trump says like it has any credibility at all.

LeapingGnome wrote:

I wish people would stop writing about what Trump says like it has any credibility at all.

Yes, please

"Trump says some sh*t he won't follow through on" would be a killer headline

He still has a distressingly large number of supporters. If he's decided to lean hard into transphobia that's worth knowing about, however unpleasant and tiresome he might be.

Jonman wrote:

"Politician says some sh*t he won't follow through on" would be a killer headline

Fixed-ish. I mean that one is far less likely to follow through, but its not that unique

I think trump raised it to a level unheard of before. Really he is in a class by himself

Definitely true too, I just keep getting reminded that they're 90% useless garbage regardless of party.

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MAGA Republicans in Congress replaced American flag lapel pins with AR-15 pins.
*seems accurate

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Oh look, more "inflation"!

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Here I thought conservatives wanted the government out of our lives

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Well there you have it: openly admitting that guns are more important than American lives.

It's performative "own the libs" bullsh*t trolling by people who are crap at their jobs (you know, representing the people in their districts).

Refuse to take it seriously or give it the time of day.

True. That did cross my mind at first.