DC Catch-All [Spoiler Zone]

PaladinTom wrote:

That’s a lot of cooks.

It takes a lot to make a stew
Especially when it's me and you
and him, and Steve from corporate too

Quintin_Stone wrote:
PaladinTom wrote:

That’s a lot of cooks.

It takes a lot to make a stew
Especially when it's me and you
and him, and Steve from corporate too

I want to like this more. Too Many Cooks is one of my favorite things ever.

I remember watching it with some friends. About 2 minutes in, someone asked "Should we be high for this?" By about 7 minutes, someone else said "I'm really glad we aren't high for this."

It looked like an actual fever dream to me.

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Watched Black Adam and it was a lot better than I thought it would be. The last 30 minutes was the standard cgi chaos we always get in comic movies but it was a good fight. The bad guy wasn't setup at all. The X-men showing up was surprising. I heard about the big spoiler but it didn't ruin the movie for me.

I was shocked by how much death is in this movie. This is really a Black Adam movie. Comic book Black Adam kills people even when he is a good guy. This version kills a bunch of people in all kind of ways. Dr Fate wasn't Dr. Fate more like Dr. Strange. I'm pretty sure they will call wind girl discount Storm. I seen the giant dude in Justice League Unlimited but he was pretty close to Ant-man in giant mode. Hawkman is Falcon with super strength. I don't think any of the side character are like their comic book versions but they are good for this movie. Isis is completely different. She has super powers in the comic. I guess she could become super powered later. Here she is Lara Croft with a kid.

I give the movie 8 SHAZAMS out of 10. Stay for the stinger.

I've been working my way through the cartoons on HBO Max, and...well, this probably counts as a Hot Take, but I've reached Young Justice, which I know is quite beloved, but I think I'm finding it to be bad. This first episode of season 3 has been 90% dull and thudding exposition delivered through fake news reports mostly pertaining to tedious and fake politics. The most prominently featured character has been the talking head of Cat Grant. There's been good stuff, and at first I thought it was just a rough transition from how great and peppy JLU was, but it's not clicking into gear for me.

Titans Season 4:

Spoiler:

Say, the guy from Bosch makes a great Lex Luthor... and now he's dead.

Yeah, I need to get through the newest season, but the show can be very peak and valley. I still love that they generally allowed the characters to grow older and have lives.

lunchbox12682 wrote:

Yeah, I need to get through the newest season, but the show can be very peak and valley. I still love that they generally allowed the characters to grow older and have lives.

I'd agree that was a great idea, especially as it pertained to Kid Flash, who was a f*cking blight of a character that first season. It also benefited Miss Martian a lot, who had some compelling ideas, but also got saddled with a heinous gimmick/catch-phase. A lot of the base ideas behind most of the original characters are pretty good. But the attempt to fuse Superfriends with mid-00s neocon 24 realpolitik grittiness delivered with po faced seriousness just pushes everything past "charmingly goofy" and into "real f*cking stupid" for me.

But what's really getting to me is the wasted time, mostly on redundant "world building" and needless exposition. Season 2 is easily the best so far (the whole Miss Martian sub escape episode was great), but even then you'd have a solid enough joke--alien invaders are making mind controlling soda--delivered through a fake commercial, but since they apparently produced an entire fake commercial, we get to see the entirety of the fake commercial, when the joke only needs four or five seconds. There's a scene where 8 people come through the teleporter, and nothing happens as they slowly walk across a room while the computer announces each person individually. Pretty great to make Glorious Godfrey a tedious, loud-mouth reactionary O'Reillyian wind-bag, but I'll get that without giving him a full screed segment in full. It just makes already pretty empty-feeling episodes feel so much more empty. So, rough going. I just endured news coverage of a meaningless press conference within news coverage of a response meaningless press conference within a response commentary segment, and that could be my limit.

SpacePProtean wrote:
lunchbox12682 wrote:

Yeah, I need to get through the newest season, but the show can be very peak and valley. I still love that they generally allowed the characters to grow older and have lives.

I'd agree that was a great idea, especially as it pertained to Kid Flash, who was a f*cking blight of a character that first season. It also benefited Miss Martian a lot, who had some compelling ideas, but also got saddled with a heinous gimmick/catch-phase. A lot of the base ideas behind most of the original characters are pretty good. But the attempt to fuse Superfriends with mid-00s neocon 24 realpolitik grittiness delivered with po faced seriousness just pushes everything past "charmingly goofy" and into "real f*cking stupid" for me.

But what's really getting to me is the wasted time, mostly on redundant "world building" and needless exposition. Season 2 is easily the best so far (the whole Miss Martian sub escape episode was great), but even then you'd have a solid enough joke--alien invaders are making mind controlling soda--delivered through a fake commercial, but since they apparently produced an entire fake commercial, we get to see the entirety of the fake commercial, when the joke only needs four or five seconds. There's a scene where 8 people come through the teleporter, and nothing happens as they slowly walk across a room while the computer announces each person individually. Pretty great to make Glorious Godfrey a tedious, loud-mouth reactionary O'Reillyian wind-bag, but I'll get that without giving him a full screed segment in full. It just makes already pretty empty-feeling episodes feel so much more empty. So, rough going. I just endured news coverage of a meaningless press conference within news coverage of a response meaningless press conference within a response commentary segment, and that could be my limit.

No, everything was Glorious Godfrey great because it was (mostly) Tim Curry. I will never be sick of that man ranting.

...he's not Tim Curry in season 3 /frownyface

Edit: Okay, the ending of season 3 really did break me, it may be one of the stupidest f*cking things I've seen in my life, and not in a good way at all. It's made me conclude that the "in-universe news broadcast" trope needs to be forced to dig its own grave before taking two in the dome.

Watched the latest season of Superman and Lois. I thought this season was a improvement from last season for the most part. I didn't care for some of relationship drama that was just weird. A girl cheats on her dude and doesn't feel bad about. She also wants her dude to hang out with the person she cheated on him with. Then somehow the boyfriend is the bad guy and he is a whiny mess over this girl that doesn't feel bad about cheating on him. BARF.

Someone else is in a relationship with a drug dealer. I didn't care for this but it didn't want to make me barf. The entire thing was handled better.

The big bad was a different take on a classic. There wasn't very much to this person. They never explained why her power source was passed down through the generations. I don't know why she was evil or why she wanted to force everyone to be like her. I would think there would be hundreds or thousands of people willing to do the thing. Also she had these followers that were shown to be good people but then they went to murder mode for no reason.

They did some stuff that might make your brain explode if you know any basic science stuff. However, they did the same thing in the comics many times.

Lots of negatives but I enjoyed the seasons. Had some really fun battles. They did some good creative stuff with different worlds. This season was loaded with easter eggs and wink winks. So I would say this was a fun season.

This got recommended to me yesterday, very worth the watch:

You’re right wrong thread

SpacePProtean wrote:

This got recommended to me yesterday, very worth the watch:

That was a terrific video, thank you.

farley3k wrote:

Rewatching Dune (most recent) on HBOMax. It is certainly got better special effects but almost everything else is worse. It feels pretty weak actually.

Like the spaceship that rises out of the lake on Calidan - why? I guess it is because we need to know how watery it is compared to Arrakis but the first move did is more easily by just having it be raining.
There are many thinks like that where despite being much less sophisticated in special effects the first one built a better universe.

Wrong thread maybe?

Well, I'm glad I found something pleasant to post earlier, because I finally dragged my bored carcass through all of Young Justice, and this post will not be that. I'll try to be brief, though I do have some rather intense and knotty issues as we go on.

Seasons 1 and 2 are the show as it was, 1 is bad in the way you sort of expect first seasons to be, 2 is pretty good. I mostly liked Zatanna, Miss Martian, Superboy, Artemis, Blue Beetle, and thought Kalduram was especially cool. Season 3, the first one ordered to fill out the DC streaming service is a staggeringly boring, tedious mire of badly done fake C-SPAN broadcasts where precious little of import occurs and most of the characters of note are off-screen, and Season 4 tries to ameliorate this by splitting things into distinct arcs, but falls flat because three of them follow the exact same pattern--character goes to a place that doesn't matter much, learns about the place's stupid politics that also don't matter much, something bad happens, arc over (my favorite bit was Orion berating everyone for talking about I believe it was f*cking Forager's love life, because, Yes! This was supposed to be a treaty negotiation!). There is at least a big fight at the end, but it is far too little, far too late.

There are 2 issues, though, I'd love to drag out, but doubt anyone else wants to, but still I need to get my thinking and reactions out there:

In S3, they introduce Gabrielle, who becomes Halo, and I don't think what I'm about to talk about was intentional, but still. They are a hijab-wearing refugee who eventually talks about questioning the nature of their gender, at first blush, cool addition. At the same time, their main power is a massive healing factor, which the show viciously and gleefully took advantage of and I'm even going to spoiler this part just in case,

Spoiler:

making them the one and only character who could be and was graphically and violently murdered. Repeatedly. So on the one had you have a character representing several marginalized identities, and on the other that character gets subjected to extreme violence, because they don't have healing factor like Wolverine or Sabretooth or Deadpool where it's the garnish on top of other action skills, most of the time Halo leapt at the bad guy and was instantly impaled, or gutted, or had their spine ripped out,

and needless to say, I thought that was a very bad idea, and I think the staff realized it, too, because it pretty abruptly stops happening. In this stage, the show seems to have no idea where the lines of stupidity and taste are (I don't think they expected the image of lovable Beast Boy ODing on sleeping pills to be as funny as it is), and I think poor Halo's early appearances were way, way over both. I'd also love for someone who identifies as non-binary to weigh in on if "a female-identifying human fuses with a male-identifying magical alien tech box" counts as representation, but my gut says "No." Happy to get clarification, however.

This next bit, I'm genuinely not entirely set in how I feel about this, and it's a much broader conversation that also pertains to things like the Disney Star Warses and it's even popped up in talking about how Fallout 76 was advertised, but I question if it's a good idea to cast characters and factions who are fascists and racists colorblind. Should I? I'm very unsure, so I'll just leave it at that for now.

In summation, a few bright spots, but I largely didn't care for it. I think the animated movies I put on when S3 or 4 got to be too much to bear were much, much better.

Henry Cavill out as Superman. Just after he quit The Witcher to presumably go back to being Superman.

Sad to see Henry go but I see why they made the decision. They've tried patching parts of the universe before, it needs a fresh start.

Black Adams end credit scene plays different knowing all we know now. I guess I am glad I am behind on DC movies.

Stealthpizza wrote:

Black Adams end credit scene plays different knowing all we know now. I guess I am glad I am behind on DC movies.

If you watched Black Adam you're no longer behind, unless you're talking about older stuff you missed.

More like now that Superman is not coming back the ending of them meeting is just sad to me. being late to the party meant I did not get excited for their team-up movie but it still would have been fun to see. I mean if WB is still making movies in 2023.

Anyone else notice that Sarah Shahi doesn't age?

Quintin_Stone wrote:

Anyone else notice that Sarah Shahi doesn't age?

Indeed. Also she's one of those people that I cannot recognize from one thing to the other, like Zooey D. without bangs. In Shahi's case, her not smiling Shaw from PoI face makes her a completely different person from anything else I see her in.

OOMMMGGG

Stealthpizza wrote:

More like now that Superman is not coming back the ending of them meeting is just sad to me. being late to the party meant I did not get excited for their team-up movie but it still would have been fun to see. I mean if WB is still making movies in 2023.

I'd rather they NOT make Superman movies if they're not going to keep Cavill in the part.
I can't imagine a more stupid move than to make a Superman movie without him until he ages out of the part.