Hidden Gems of Netflix's Watch Instantly

karmajay wrote:

I enjoyed Troll.

Same. Even if it's somewhat predictable I still really like seeing how non-Hollywood creative teams do things.

muraii wrote:
karmajay wrote:

I enjoyed Troll.

Same. Even if it's somewhat predictable I still really like seeing how non-Hollywood creative teams do things.

I agree with that, but it could have been a bit more than "godzilla but with a troll in Norway". Troll Hunter started with a lot of the final solutions in Troll, and I felt the characters were too broad and archetypical (including the "douche who doesn't have a consistent belief but just disagrees with the hero all the time), and it lacked thematic focus on what it was trying to say. These kaiju monsters are supposed to be a metaphor for something when they're done best, after all.

I felt it had that. The Troll represented their cultural heritage. Their reluctance to admit it was actually a troll represented shame at their "silly" past and their desire to be seen as a serious and modern nation. The jerk represented those who felt the christianization of their culture was a good thing rather than something that should be regretted. It was why he was so desperate to kill it rather than try to understand it.

Stop trolling me.

I enjoyed Bullet Train - good fun action movie.

Baron Of Hell wrote:
Garth wrote:
Baron Of Hell wrote:

Episode 2 of Cabinet of Curiosities

Much better episode. Really gross creature. Might remind people of a video game that just came out with a sequel. The episode was entertaining.

That is the Grave Rats episode? See, I think I was the opposite. I liked the first episode better than the second. These will likely be a YMMV situation, which is fine by me. I am very impressed with the creature effects, design and all around production value of both episodes (only having seen two at this point).

yep the rat episode.

Wow, yup. I thought the second episode was a bit of a turd. Admittedly, it combined my two least favorite types of horror, comedy/gore, but still... I did think the idea of the main character was fun and definitely had some sympathy for him by the end. However, the rat king was lame and then...

Spoiler:

we get the undead, randomly coming to life, almost like an admission that the whole rat thing was totally lame and something else was needed. Mine indeed.

Can only go up from here... ?...?

Is it wrong that Claudia from Dragon Prince reminds me of girls I dated in my 20's?

Paleocon wrote:

Is it wrong that Claudia from Dragon Prince reminds me of girls I dated in my 20's?

Yes, 'tis. Unless it isn't.

-BEP

ps. Page 666

Mr GT Chris wrote:
Baron Of Hell wrote:
Garth wrote:
Baron Of Hell wrote:

Episode 2 of Cabinet of Curiosities

Much better episode. Really gross creature. Might remind people of a video game that just came out with a sequel. The episode was entertaining.

That is the Grave Rats episode? See, I think I was the opposite. I liked the first episode better than the second. These will likely be a YMMV situation, which is fine by me. I am very impressed with the creature effects, design and all around production value of both episodes (only having seen two at this point).

yep the rat episode.

Wow, yup. I thought the second episode was a bit of a turd. Admittedly, it combined my two least favorite types of horror, comedy/gore, but still... I did think the idea of the main character was fun and definitely had some sympathy for him by the end. However, the rat king was lame and then...

Spoiler:

we get the undead, randomly coming to life, almost like an admission that the whole rat thing was totally lame and something else was needed. Mine indeed.

Can only go up from here... ?...?

These definitely all fell into a pretty clear binary for me. I either really liked the episode, or I thought it was completely forgettable. I do hope we got a second season though. Anthology horror is very much my jam.

Garth wrote:

These definitely all fell into a pretty clear binary for me. I either really liked the episode, or I thought it was completely forgettable. I do hope we got a second season though. Anthology horror is very much my jam.

Did you happen to watch American Horror Stories S2? It has one huge stinker but there are a couple of gems and another I really liked although most others didn't seem to. Also, I feel like it was a bit of a step up on AHSs S1, which leaned too hard on nostalgia for the Murder House.

I just watched Pinocchio and wow. I think I ugly cried at least twice.

Oh no, that means I am doomed. I may need to watch without the wife and kids first, to get it out of my system.

Paleocon wrote:

I just watched Pinocchio and wow. I think I ugly cried at least twice.

Oh boy. Gonna be rough. Still looking forward to it.

I also watched Pinocchio and thought it was pretty good. Overall story is the same with some very different tones from the previous movies. There was a time I thought it was going to be a horror movie like the movie with the mirror people with button eyes. Then they had some really sad moments. They changed a classic moment and made it about war in a really interesting way. Then a another classic moment was changed but only the creature. hmmm actually he did that with a couple things. It was funny because I know what it represents but the creature design was bonkers in a good way. WTF was I looking at,

I give it 8 puppets on a string out of 10.

Baron Of Hell wrote:

I also watched Pinocchio and thought it was pretty good. Overall story is the same with some very different tones from the previous movies. There was a time I thought it was going to be a horror movie like the movie with the mirror people with button eyes. Then they had some really sad moments. They changed a classic moment and made it about war in a really interesting way. Then a another classic moment was changed but only the creature. hmmm actually he did that with a couple things. It was funny because I know what it represents but the creature design was bonkers in a good way. WTF was I looking at,

I give it 8 puppets on a string out of 10.

Yeah. The themes of grief, loss, sacrifice, fascism, being an outsider, the relationship between fathers and sons… all of it was really heavy for a kid’s movie. It felt more like a what if Dr. Frankenstein realized he was an ass in chapter four than a Disney movie.

Has anyone read the book recently, and is it more like the book? I haven't read it since I was a kid, bit I remember it being kinda dark. Might have been too young for it.

tuffalobuffalo wrote:

Has anyone read the book recently, and is it more like the book? I haven't read it since I was a kid, bit I remember it being kinda dark. Might have been too young for it.

I read it recently and found it really, really dark. Moreover, I found the message bit authoritarian and problematic. It's mostly about how the character Pinocchio is a sh*t child who pisses everyone off, does horrible things, and ends up dead. It feels a bit like Frankenstein without the moral conflict.

del Toro's work, at least to me, really hits where Collodi's story fails. His Pinocchio comes across as a creature of impeccable purity that loves Geppetto so completely and tries to see the best in everyone. The world he experiences reacts with suspicion, disgust, or manipulation. People either reject him as an abomination, are disappointed in him for not being what they want him to be, or see him as a tool or commodity for their own selfish ambition, but it never changes who he is. Instead, his purity changes those around him.

One part, in particular, really struck home

Spoiler:

When he asks Geppetto why people love Jesus and hate him despite the fact that they are both made of wood, I nearly cried. It was beautifully naïve, but really hammered home a fundamental truth.

Paleocon wrote:
tuffalobuffalo wrote:

Has anyone read the book recently, and is it more like the book? I haven't read it since I was a kid, bit I remember it being kinda dark. Might have been too young for it.

I read it recently and found it really, really dark. Moreover, I found the message bit authoritarian and problematic. It's mostly about how the character Pinocchio is a sh*t child who pisses everyone off, does horrible things, and ends up dead. It feels a bit like Frankenstein without the moral conflict.

del Toro's work, at least to me, really hits where Collodi's story fails. His Pinocchio comes across as a creature of impeccable purity that loves Geppetto so completely and tries to see the best in everyone. The world he experiences reacts with suspicion, disgust, or manipulation. People either reject him as an abomination, are disappointed in him for not being what they want him to be, or see him as a tool or commodity for their own selfish ambition, but it never changes who he is. Instead, his purity changes those around him.

One part, in particular, really struck home

Spoiler:

When he asks Geppetto why people love Jesus and hate him despite the fact that they are both made of wood, I nearly cried. It was beautifully naïve, but really hammered home a fundamental truth.

That is fascinating on the book. I read the wikipedia literary analysis too. Very interesting given right-wing thoughts on working in America these days.

I was looking for an action flick and Lost Bullet can somewhat highly recommended.

It was fine. There were a couple nice scenes, like the big scuffle in the police station, but I didn't know who the movie was trying to speak to. The protagonist is a gifted mechanic but the car porn was very subdued. The chase scenes weren't anything special either. There was very little gunplay and only fairly clumsy - but more grounded - fisticuffs. It was enjoyable enough, just aggressively forgettable.

Warrior Nun is cancelled. I have to wonder at this point, if any new netflix show will get a season 3.

We're multiple episodes into Wednesday and really enjoying it. We've just finished the episode with the Rave'N dance. I only have one issue so far. I must be getting old, but I'm not sure I needed to see a blowjob joke portrayed by teenage characters.

Clumber wrote:

Warrior Nun is cancelled. I have to wonder at this point, if any new netflix show will get a season 3.

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My wife is going to be pissed!

I don't trust Netflix anymore and therefore don't watch any new scripted series on Netflix until it has at least a few seasons under its belt. I still watch Netflix, but only for its unscripted shows that we leave on when we're doing other things. If I had to pick a service to cancel, Netflix would be at the top of the list.

I am going to buck the general opinion, but I think that shorter series runs are okay if the storylines reach satisfactory conclusions. I would rather have a three season Derry Girls, for instance, than the Seinfeld that wouldn't die.

Paleocon wrote:

I am going to buck the general opinion, but I think that shorter series runs are okay if the storylines reach satisfactory conclusions. I would rather have a three season Derry Girls, for instance, than the Seinfeld that wouldn't die.

I completely agree, but Netflix doesn't always allow shows to end gracefully.

I partially blame show runners too for not ending season-long storylines within that season and then tacking on unnecessary cliffhangers for another season that may or may not even happen.

Clumber wrote:

Warrior Nun is cancelled. I have to wonder at this point, if any new netflix show will get a season 3.

Well that sucks. I literally just started watching the series last week. Is it worth continuing? I am about halfway through season 1.

PaladinTom wrote:

I partially blame show runners too for not ending season-long storylines within that season and then tacking on unnecessary cliffhangers for another season that may or may not even happen.

If they're hoping for fans to clamor for another season to resolve the cliffhanger, they haven't been paying much attention to Netflix' track record on listening to such things.

We finished Wednesday last night and loved it. Left things open for the future but resolved the season's overarching mystery pretty well.

I was honestly surprised Warrior Nun got a second season at all, but we bailed on the first season after the main character's hesitation and whining got to be too much for us. Basically I wanted some Warrior Nunning right away, not an entire season dedicated to going back and forth as to whether Warrior Nunning was right for her before she inevitably accepts her role.

EriktheRed wrote:
Clumber wrote:

Warrior Nun is cancelled. I have to wonder at this point, if any new netflix show will get a season 3.

Well that sucks. I literally just started watching the series last week. Is it worth continuing? I am about halfway through season 1.

I enjoyed season 1 a lot if you are half way thru and are enjoying it, it is worth to finish. Season 2 is not as strong but far from the worst thing you will see. I believe it is worth a watch.