Star Wars Misc. Catch-All

I mean, isn't the Death Star basically a lightsaber ship?

Nevin73 wrote:

I mean, isn't the Death Star basically a lightsaber ship?

Probably. There was a plot thread in Rebels that involved the Empire collecting a massive amount of lightsaber crystals for a secret project that was strongly implied to be the Death Star. I wouldn't be surprised if other shows set in that era made that more explicit.

Yeah it looks like the super laser is powered by Kyber Crystals. Article about Super Laser from Wookiepedia.

Also an article from StarWars.com has info about it. It says the Geonosians resurrected an ancient Sith design for super weapons.

I would like someone to take the scene with Mon Mothma meeting the crimelord and replace the crimelord with Jar Jar. Play it the same, totally straight and intense, but it's Jar Jar.

Finally finished 'Andor', and quite enjoyed it. I'd previously decided that it was another story that I didn't need to see (like 'Solo - A Star Wars Story'), because the previous film told me everything that I needed to know.

But I gave it a whirl and was hooked by the 3rd episode. I thought it tried to answer a fascinating question: "How does someone become willing to risk everything in order to become a rebel?"

My only quibble is that - by choosing Cassian's origin story - we don't get to see the origin of the Rebellion itself. Though we can infer from Luthen's and Mon's stories how the Rebellion might have got started. But it's only a minor gripe.

To be fair, there's still one more episode of season 1, plus one more planned season next year. The formation of the Rebel Alliance may be yet to come!

halfwaywrong wrote:

To be fair, there's still one more episode of season 1, plus one more planned season next year. The formation of the Rebel Alliance may be yet to come!

Ah! I suspected that there was another episode - and probably another season - to come.

I do wonder whether the writers will find much more that's meaningful to say in the next season. Clearly, the Syril Khan/'The Fugitive' subplot has much further to run. But I think many of us have the gist of how the Rebellion built momentum.

I'm not sure that the formation of the formal Rebel Alliance will be all that interesting as a sub-plot. That's all politics and negotiation, no? (The kind of ponderous storyline that - while absolutely necessary - sank 'The Phantom Menace'.)

Unless, of course, Taika Waititi was put in charge and allowed to give it the 'The Life of Brian' Judean People's Front treatment.

The change from multiple factions of rebels sometimes working against each other into the Rebel Alliance is actually covered in Rebels, but being a show aimed at young adults, it's fairly simplified and far more kid-friendly compared to how Luthen has handled things in Andor.

Stengah wrote:

The change from multiple factions of rebels sometimes working against each other into the Rebel Alliance is actually covered in Rebels, but being a show aimed at young adults, it's fairly simplified and far more kid-friendly compared to how Luthen has handled things in Andor.

"I think about you all the time, Chopper".

Rat Boy wrote:

I'm not objecting, I'm just wondering why I couldn't slice through TIE fighter squadrons 30 years ago.

Same reason you didn't do the Holdo maneuver.

Veloxi wrote:

Got caught up on Andor today. Might be my favorite live-action Star Wars ever.

No sh*t, right?

I was pretty sure I was going to feel that way much earlier in the season, but it just keeps being f*cking spectacular. I cannot wait for Wednesday.

Also, can't recommend more highly listening to the folks on the A More Civilized Age podcast talk about the show. If you're familiar with the Waypoint philosophy on podcasting (radical leftist cultural analysis of media and culture, five star podcasts, five star run times) you probably know what to expect, but the amazing work that Andor is doing as a show is really inspiring some amazing thought and analysis from them, and is really worth checking out even if you'd maybe usually be wary of say, three hours of podcast talking about one hour of show.

Holy sh*t, that Andor finale.

They stuck the landing. What an incredible show.

beanman101283 wrote:

Holy sh*t, that Andor finale.

They stuck the landing. What an incredible show.

Agreed. I've come to the conclusion that because it didn't have big Star Wars characters and couldn't milk nostalgia, they were forced to make it really f*cking good instead.

beanman101283 wrote:

They stuck the landing.

I was going to post those exact same words.

Also, don't miss the scene at the end of the credits, it's short.

deftly wrote:
beanman101283 wrote:

They stuck the landing.

I was going to post those exact same words.

Also, don't miss the scene at the end of the credits, it's short.

Was there stuff at the end of other episodes too, or just the last one?

DudleySmith wrote:
beanman101283 wrote:

Holy sh*t, that Andor finale.

They stuck the landing. What an incredible show.

Agreed. I've come to the conclusion that because it didn't have big Star Wars characters and couldn't milk nostalgia, they were forced to make it really f*cking good instead.

They did make some small nods to nostalgia, the KX security droid scene in particular, but it was a deliberate choice not to constantly go for nostalgia, not something that was forced on them. The approach the showrunner (Tony Gilroy) has is that he wants to muck around what was thought to be canon in order to add more depth to existing characters, like he's already done to great effect with Mon Mothma.

Season 2 is supposed to be keeping the three episode arcs, but each set is supposed to cover an entire year (or at least have a year between them), so it will bring us right up to the start of Rogue One chronologically.

Easily one of my favorite shows of the last decade. I'm honestly kind of amazed that Star Wars can have that quality of acting, writing and directing.

I hope it continues to build a following before season two, both with reluctant SW fans and non-SW fans.

I'm going to dive into a re-watch with my non-SW wife and report back with her verdict.

Holy sh*t, this show....

I watched a day ago and I still find myself stopping and thinking about bits of it. There was so much happening heading into the last episode I couldn't conceive of how they were going to carry it off without a huge mess, but they did it.

By making the funeral the central event and making everyone run around it on their own missions it gave a really solid structure.

And then the anvil went....

f*ck. Actual chills

zeroKFE wrote:

Also, can't recommend more highly listening to the folks on the A More Civilized Age podcast talk about the show. If you're familiar with the Waypoint philosophy on podcasting (radical leftist cultural analysis of media and culture, five star podcasts, five star run times) you probably know what to expect, but the amazing work that Andor is doing as a show is really inspiring some amazing thought and analysis from them, and is really worth checking out even if you'd maybe usually be wary of say, three hours of podcast talking about one hour of show.

I really can't get over how much juice AMCA manage to squeeze out of an episode. Even ones where 'not much happens' they manage to find fascinating angles.

MrDeVil909 wrote:

I really can't get over how much juice AMCA manage to squeeze out of an episode. Even ones where 'not much happens' they manage to find fascinating angles.

Heh, I mean they were already experts in that area before they even started the podcast, and now they have been forged into unstoppable machines of cultural analysis by making intellectual feasts out five seasons of frequent famine in the Clone Wars series.

And now you give them this remarkable creation, constructed from peak quality writing, directing, acting, and production design, and already dripping with the kind of humanist philosophy and deeply thoughtful radical leftist politics that they manage to wring out of the driest of cultural towels?

Frankly, I’m shocked they managed to keep most of the episodes under three hours.

zeroKFE wrote:

Was there stuff at the end of other episodes too, or just the last one?

Just the last one.

There's plenty of Star Wars stuff I like just fine, but my line for years has been “Clone Wars and Rebels were by far the best writing in the [film/television] Star Wars universe.” But as great as those arcs were, that line is just laughably false now. Andor is just that freakin' good. How this happened under Disney's watch, I have no idea.

It's just great to see a show that trusts you to pay attention, to see the subtleties in every detail and not just hit you over the head with things. Every. Single. Actor. telling mountains of story in the smallest looks, and the show being willing to let things play out and ratchet up the tension one scene at a time instead of rushing you to the major plot points.

You don't even realize how much it's throwing at you until suddenly the weight of what's going on in the final act just squeezes you down to nothing.

Not to mention it's a fantastic treatment of what it would really look like to have The Old Republic slowly rot away and turn into The Empire (and how The Old Republic wasn't in any way perfect in the first place), and all the little things that have to be bubbling over for revolution to start.

Every time they could make a choice in this show they made the best one, down to even inconsequential things like

Spoiler: stuff from S01E12

the stormtrooper coming up to get the guy hammering in the belltower, and you expect him to turn around and double-hammer the stormtrooper because of course! He's holding 2 hammers! And then he just freakin' 300's him out the window instead, lolol. Also when Brasso just started wailing on people with Marva's brick I lost it.

Stellan Skarsgård did more acting in one single millimeter of lip twitch in that last episode than literally anyone directed by Lucas ever. And Diego Luna had to hold the entire show together and friggin' nailed it all the way through.

I'm really looking forward to going back and rewatching, I have a suspicion I'm going to notice a lot of details in the early episodes I had no idea mattered the first time around.

Rat Boy wrote:

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On program.

Welp.

That’s funny, but I would hope that’s one of the few play sets Star Wars wouldn’t merchandise.

detroit20 wrote:

That's all politics and negotiation, no? (The kind of ponderous storyline that - while absolutely necessary - sank 'The Phantom Menace'.)

WHAT? No. What sank Phantom Menace was Anakin and Jar-Jar. Watch edits without those characters but for a few glimpses each and it's a pretty great film, actually.

Loved that finale! Was not expecting

Spoiler:

Deedra to be rescued by Syril. Funny how both of their ops on Ferrix turned to crap, yet Deedra is the up-and-comer and Syril is the loser

It's gonna be a long wait until season 2.

Andor was so good I now fear every other Star Wars show will be bad in comparison.

I have no idea why you’d be concerned.

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All joking aside, it’s stunning to have a show with such amazing pacing, plotting, dialogue and mature themes when literally just a few months ago we had stuff like The Book of Boba Fett. Where the main character, a “crime boss” had a gang of like 6 people and would usually take orders from them.