NFL 2022: The Week 9 thread

As much as I enjoyed Hard Knocks In-Season with the Colts last year, especially the meltdown at the end at the hands of the Jaguars... Hard Knocks got to Indy just one year too early.

Ah well. At least I'll get to enjoy watching Kliff Kingsbury go down in flames. Especially when COD Double XP weekend comes around.

Rat Boy wrote:

The last name of the kicker for the Chargers is Dicker?

Kyle Van Noy can't believe it either.

Man, I used to really enjoy WhatIfSports to while away my time at work, but boy have my tastes changed, because I came back to it tonight and had it tell me the 1949 Chicago Bears would not only beat the 2021 LA Chargers 33-10, but that the Bears would out-pass them by 90 yards, and had to just close the tab.

Defector's having a field day with the Saturday coaching hire and dunking on Irsay. As part of that they dug up this SI write-up on his dad and it is wild.

Thought some of the Ravens fans in here might enjoy as there are some great vignettes about old football Baltimore.

https://vault.si.com/vault/1986/12/1...

Pink Stripes wrote:
Rat Boy wrote:

The last name of the kicker for the Chargers is Dicker?

Kyle Van Noy can't believe it either.

White people should enunciate Dicker's name very clearly when speaking his name out loud.

Packers WRs frustrated at being made scapegoat after Rodgers didn't bother to show up to OTAs this offseason to work with them.

I will never wrap my head around how the Packers had a clean break all lined up, and refused to pull the trigger. They had the ability to trade a QB creeping up on 40 for a bounty of picks that could jumpstart a rebuild, and had a 1st round drafted QB waiting in the wings.

That fan base has an unhealthy relationship with their QB’s. The support Favre continues to get shows that the fans don’t particularly think clearly when it comes to that particular position.

TheGameguru wrote:

That fan base has an unhealthy relationship with their QB’s. The support Favre continues to get shows that the fans don’t particularly think clearly when it comes to that particular position.

The loyalty among Browns fans to DeShawn Rapist despite the fact that he hasn't even taken a single snap for them yet is astounding.

Paleocon wrote:
TheGameguru wrote:

That fan base has an unhealthy relationship with their QB’s. The support Favre continues to get shows that the fans don’t particularly think clearly when it comes to that particular position.

The loyalty among Browns fans to DeShawn Rapist despite the fact that he hasn't even taken a single snap for them yet is astounding.

The ones that are still Browns fans don't care, the rest of us quit that narcotic.

I've been ready to move on from Rodgers two MVPs ago.

I'm not a believer in tie the majority of your cap up to a QB because you have to it's football.

As someone who roots for a team that rarely even had competent QB play, let alone great QB play, I would say I'd have happily spent a huge chunk of cap for a decent QB. The AFC QB in the Super Bowl between 2003 and 2018 was Brady, Peyton, or Roethlesberger every year except for the one year Flacco became great for the right four games, and it's a passing league. Rodgers has been worth his cap hit for years, and, sure, he's fallen off this year, but without him the Packers aren't doing anything for years unless the Jordan Love experiment pays off.

Next year, when Kyle Trask is doing his best Davis Mills impersonation, I assure you, I'll have wished the Bucs were burning dollars on a better QB.

The problem is that if you let Rodgers go to, say, Denver and wins, you'll get hanged for letting him go. The fans will care more about the FOMO than the rebuild. Rebuilding is not exciting for the fans. And to be fair, did a lot of people expect the Packers to suck this much? I also wonder if the 2015 Broncos defense and a certain outlier who is now a bachelor again biased people's expectations of what an aging hall of famer QB can do.

If Green Bay had taken the offer Seattle ended up taking from Denver for Russ (two 1s and two 2s), and assuming they still moved Davante, they would have had THREE 1sts and THREE 2nds in this past draft, and two 1sts and two 2nds next year. That's a roster rebuild right there. To say nothing of the sudden bounty of cap space without Rodgers on it. And if Love was trash and gave you no hope in 2022, you have two 1s and two 2s to package in a trade up to go after the draft QB you want.

Also, I think Rodgers, coming off back-to-back MVPs, could have fetched an even better price than the Russ trade. Maybe some assets in the 2025 draft too.

Could have been one of the greatest draft rebuild moves in recent NFL history. I'm sad we didn't get to see it.

As a fan watching my team ball out with a bunch of young guys (and a "lifetime backup" who is going nuts), it is so much fun to watch. Extremely exciting watching players grow.

There are, of course, places where that strategy isn't working out.

But I'm here for it while it lasts!

Could have been one of the greatest draft rebuild moves in recent NFL history. I'm sad we didn't get to see it.

Oh, you're seeing it. It's just in Seattle.

Minase wrote:
Could have been one of the greatest draft rebuild moves in recent NFL history. I'm sad we didn't get to see it.

Oh, you're seeing it. It's just in Seattle. :)

Well, sort of. They didn't have a Davante Adams to trade away and add to the pick pile, and they were short a 1st rounder too because they poured gasoline on it and lit a match in the Jamal Adams trade.

So all Seattle's draft looked like in April was an extra 2nd round pick. Pretty far shy of the 3 1sts and 3 2nds Green Bay could have had. But it was good that Seattle replenished that missing 1st rounder in time to draft Charles Cross, and got Kenneth Walker with that extra 2nd right ahead of Carson's retirement.

I'm glad they drafted Boye Mafe and let Drake Jackson slide all the way to the end of the round for San Francisco though.

Top_Shelf wrote:

Defector's having a field day with the Saturday coaching hire and dunking on Irsay. As part of that they dug up this SI write-up on his dad and it is wild.

Thought some of the Ravens fans in here might enjoy as there are some great vignettes about old football Baltimore.

https://vault.si.com/vault/1986/12/1...

Amazing article. Thanks for this.

Former Titans LBs Daren Bates and Wesley Woodyard talk about trying to defend against Christian McCaffrey at joint practices during McCaffrey's rookie year (NSFW language):

It's WEEK 10, y'all!