Marvel Media (Spoiler Thread)

I stay away from Honest Trailers most of the time because I don't need help being cynical. I might look at this one, though.

A subtle (or maybe not-so-subtle) way She-Hulk maintained its high bar of quality was by merely not having Emil Blonsky be HulkKing the whole time. I had come to respect so much about the show and dreaded that being the big cliffhanger/twist. My son and I were so relieved when he didn't spout hatred at Jen. Of course the show runners knew this would be some folks' expectations and teased it a little, but boy howdy I like this show.

Yuusssss

As expected finished She-Hulk in less than a week. Wow that finally took the 4th wall up a notch. Pretty great though. Especially the jabs at the MCU formula. Was surprised

Spoiler:

Kevin wasn't Kevin

but probably funnier that way.

I know, comic book movie lighten up but Ant-Man just bugged me because I kept thinking - what are they breathing? If they are smaller than atoms then air is way to big for them to take in. Not to mention if you shrink their mass down that small it would smash into a singularity.

I know, I know - comic book but I liked how in the first movie at least he always wore his helmet when small which could imply that he brought a certain amount of air which shrunk with him.

Bahh I just have to let it all go and remember "a wizard did it"

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I was not expecting some bizarro-GotG kind of alien adventure thing, but that looks very cool, and Marvel always nails it with the tunes they pick for those trailers. Looks very cool.

farley3k wrote:

I know, comic book movie lighten up but Ant-Man just bugged me because I kept thinking - what are they breathing? If they are smaller than atoms then air is way to big for them to take in. Not to mention if you shrink their mass down that small it would smash into a singularity.

I know, I know - comic book but I liked how in the first movie at least he always wore his helmet when small which could imply that he brought a certain amount of air which shrunk with him.

Bahh I just have to let it all go and remember "a wizard did it"

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It's one of those things where sometimes a little bit of explanation is worse than none, because it just draws attention to how inadequate the explanation actually is.

It's specifically stated in the first movie that it is only the space between atoms that is shrinking and therefore the mass of a shrunken object stays constant.

Why bother telling the audience that if you are not going to stay consistent with it for even one movie? All I could keep thinking all movie long is, "he shouldn't be able to ride on that ant. He shouldn't be able to run across that gun. He should break through that floor."

I'm okay with the idea that in a comic book movie the sky is not always going to be blue. I am less okay with it if you insist on pointing to a red sky and saying, "what a beautiful blue that is!"

We're finally getting Micronaughts, but with a different name!

farley3k wrote:

I know, comic book movie lighten up but Ant-Man just bugged me because I kept thinking - what are they breathing? If they are smaller than atoms then air is way to big for them to take in. Not to mention if you shrink their mass down that small it would smash into a singularity.

hbi2k wrote:

It's specifically stated in the first movie that it is only the space between atoms that is shrinking and therefore the mass of a shrunken object stays constant.

Why bother telling the audience that if you are not going to stay consistent with it for even one movie? All I could keep thinking all movie long is, "he shouldn't be able to ride on that ant. He shouldn't be able to run across that gun. He should break through that floor."

I'm okay with the idea that in a comic book movie the sky is not always going to be blue. I am less okay with it if you insist on pointing to a red sky and saying, "what a beautiful blue that is!"

I don't recall the explanation in the first movie, but if it's what you've stated, it doesn't explain any of those gravitational effects away. It's not a problem that mass stays constant; it's a problem that density increases exponentially. So it seems they've been consistently wrong.

It's Marvel, scientific realism in the powers their characters have has never been a strong suit, especially with their older characters. They also made Magneto insanely powerful by accident because they didn't understand the full extent of the powers they were giving him when they said he was able to control magnetic fields.

Everyone complaining about Ant-Man science just wait until you hear about this new Spider-Man character... sticks to walls, shoots webbing from his wrists and has an ESP sense of danger.

I know it is silly to want realism but I think it is a continuum and they are veering farther and farther from what I can accept with my suspension of disbelief.

Tscott wrote:

Everyone complaining about Ant-Man science just wait until you hear about this new Spider-Man character... sticks to walls, shoots webbing from his wrists and has an ESP sense of danger.

Surely there's a physical limit to the size of web he can spin?

This seemed topical to what we were talking about if not the thread.

The Onion - Man Suspends Disbelief To Watch Film Where Regular Person Changes For The Better

farley3k wrote:

I know it is silly to want realism but I think it is a continuum and they are veering farther and farther from what I can accept with my suspension of disbelief.

Oddly enough I know where you are coming from on this, there is something about the science specificially for ant-man that sends me the wrong way. What they hell are they breathing if they are the size of atoms for example? If it's just them getting shrunk down then it's not the atoms around them is it?

I know it doesn't matter and it's not the point but it just sits at the back of my mind and spoils the enjoyment a little.

I liked how in the first one he always wore his mask when small or big - which I took to mean he brought air with him like a Scuba diver. So the air would get bigger or smaller too.
Then that kind of got tossed out the window with Janet living down there but still I think they stayed consistent in the first movie.

Having Paul Rudd spend half a movie in a mask seems wasteful.

hbi2k wrote:

It's one of those things where sometimes a little bit of explanation is worse than none, because it just draws attention to how inadequate the explanation actually is.

It's specifically stated in the first movie that it is only the space between atoms that is shrinking and therefore the mass of a shrunken object stays constant.

Why bother telling the audience that if you are not going to stay consistent with it for even one movie? All I could keep thinking all movie long is, "he shouldn't be able to ride on that ant. He shouldn't be able to run across that gun. He should break through that floor."

I'm okay with the idea that in a comic book movie the sky is not always going to be blue. I am less okay with it if you insist on pointing to a red sky and saying, "what a beautiful blue that is!"

There's a scene in the first Ant-man where he breaks bathroom tiles due to his extreme density, but in the rest of the movie it's ignored.

Yeah, you just have to shut your brain off for that stuff.

Ant-Man’s powers are one thing but isn’t the Quantum Realm explicitly described as being beyond the physical universe and accessible only via Pym particles or magic? Why would it still be governed by our physical laws? For all we know matter there is constructed entirely out of Kool-Aid and people who travel there breath good intentions instead of oxygen.

Mixolyde wrote:

Having Paul Rudd spend half a movie in a mask seems wasteful.

Agreed. He should never take is mask off. His youthfulness is infuriating.

Guys remember..everything can be explained with nanotechnology.

Marvel Studios' Black Panther: Wakanda Forever | Time
*some serious new character spoilers so I would avoid if worry about that kind of thing.

Behind the Scenes | VFX of Marvel Studios' She-Hulk: Attorney at Law

farley3k wrote:

Behind the Scenes | VFX of Marvel Studios' She-Hulk: Attorney at Law

Great video, thank you!

I like this guys videos. I know these kinds of videos are nitpicky and whatnot, but his are generally done in good humor.

I am not a lawyer, but even I could tell that She Hulk has about as much to do with the law as Harvey Birdman.

And that's fine. A plausible legal drama is not what the writers were interested in making.