NFL 2022: The draft thread

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THE 2022 NFL DRAFT

When: April 28 (first round starting at 8p), April 29 (rounds 2-3 starting at 7p) and April 30 (rounds 4 through the end starting at noon)

Where:

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The draft order: Here you go, starting with the Jags.

First 10 picks are Jags, Lions, Texas, Jets, Giants, Panthers, Giants again (via the Bears), FaLOLcons, Seahawks, Jets again (from the Seahawks). After that, I don't care because Carolina doesn't pick again until Saturday.

Your probable No 1 pick: The dude in the header. That's edge rusher Aidan Hutchinson of Michigan. NFL.com calls him a "can't-miss combination of football character, skill and physical traits who is more likely to contend for occasional Pro Bowls than become an All-Pro playmaker." Perfect for a chronically underachieving team like the Jags, in other words. Oh, and he apparently has short arms, which means the Panthers might want him to play offensive guard.

His NFL comp? It's ... Kyle Vanden Bosch? A dude who retired 10 years ago?

Buckle up, y'all. This is going to be one weird draft.

The Rams clearly believe that the draft doesn't matter.

The Eagles think that some draft is good, so more must be better.

I just hope my Ravens have the right balance.

Well, since the Bucs pick in the top ten per usual, they're going to . . . wait a minute . . .

Still not used to it.

Guessing defensive line or secondary, but probably BPA. Listen, as long as all three other NFC South teams panic and trade up for underwhelming QBs, it'll all be fine.

4 weeks of draft hype? Do you work for ESPN?

PFF Mock Draft Simulator

Be careful. You might go down a rabbit hole like me doing 100 mock drafts because ya it's perfectly time consuming.

Stele wrote:

4 weeks of draft hype? Do you work for ESPN?

It's April, which means it's Draft Month. Hey, I don't make the rules.

PS: Speaking of not-ESPN, The Ringer has my favorite draft guide. There's the Big Board (players ranked by talent) and the usual Mock Draft (which shows that Carolina will reach for a QB at 6). The two Dannys are fun on podcasts. I think I like it because it's serious without taking itself too seriously.

Also, CBS Sports is out with its wins predictions for 2022. Bills, Packers and Bucs are at the top with 11.5 wins; Chiefs, Cowboys and Rams are at 10.5. There's a lot of recency bias at the bottom of the list, which shows the Panthers with six wins and ...

Yep, actually, six seems about right.

Perhaps this is an unpopular idea, but I really think sh*t teams shouldn't be rewarded for either being sh*t teams or deliberately tanking. The bottom 16 teams should be put in a draft lottery for draft order.

The draft is enough of a lottery already; it's not like the NBA where a singular player can carry a team. It's a team sport, and even unicorn prospects like Legion's beloved Touchdown Jesus don't turn a team around. There's a very real reason to tank in the NBA that just doesn't exist in the NFL at all. Things are fine as is, and a lottery is just a solution desperately seeking a problem to pretend to solve.

I still stand firmly by my draft order idea, which is to put teams in the order that they were eliminated from playoff contention. Once you're eliminated from the postseason, your draft order spot is locked in.

This change would have prevented the Jaguars from landing Jaguar Jesus. The Jets were eliminated from playoffs contention after their Week 11 loss, while the Jags weren't out until their Week 12 loss. The Jets lost out on Trevor because they won in Week 15 while the Jags continued their tank.

Under my proposal, the Jets would not be punished for winning that game.

It doesn't entirely prevent tanking, but it at least removes the incentive to continue to lose once your team has missed the playoffs, and it's much less heavy-handed than a lottery or other significant overhaul.

I like this idea especially because it's exactly how the draft orders of the teams that do make the playoffs is determined. It gets rid of the two-tier system and unifies the behavior to one simple algorithm, which greatly pleases my programmer brain.

Patriots acquire DeVante Parker and a 2022 fifth-round draft pick in exchange for a 2023 third-round pick in a rare intra-division trade.

Interesting trade for the Patriots who wanted an upgrade at WR. They don't have a superstar but Parker-Agholor-Bourne-Myers does not sound like a bad receiving corps at all, as long as Parker can remain
a productive player. He was probably made expendable by the Tyreek Hill trade.

I do find it odd that the Dolphins traded a 2022 pick and got a 2023 pick in return. They now have just four picks in this upcoming draft.

(BTW, do you guys usually keep this thread just for draft talk or is it ok to post other NFL stuff?)

Pink Stripes wrote:

(BTW, do you guys usually keep this thread just for draft talk or is it ok to post other NFL stuff?)

You have vandalized Enix's draft thread.

You must light a Cam candle (a Camdle) and say twenty "f*ck Payton"-s.

Pretty surprised by that compensation; he's broken 800 yards once in seven years, is frequently injured, and has averaged less than 50 catches/year. He's got a career ~58% catch rate, and hasn't exactly been a deep ball specialist, so that seems like a lot for him. The fact the Dolphins were willing to send him elsewhere in the division is probably a sign they don't exactly have a lot of confidence in his future.

Edit: OH SH*T I forgot he went to Louisville, I know who's a comin' . . .

*Legion* wrote:

I like this idea especially because it's exactly how the draft orders of the teams that do make the playoffs is determined. It gets rid of the two-tier system and unifies the behavior to one simple algorithm, which greatly pleases my programmer brain.

Hell yes. Consistency is the best.

Pink Stripes wrote:

Patriots acquire DeVante Parker and a 2022 fifth-round draft pick in exchange for a 2023 third-round pick in a rare intra-division trade.

Interesting trade for the Patriots who wanted an upgrade at WR. They don't have a superstar but Parker-Agholor-Bourne-Myers does not sound like a bad receiving corps at all, as long as Parker can remain
a productive player. He was probably made expendable by the Tyreek Hill trade.

I do find it odd that the Dolphins traded a 2022 pick and got a 2023 pick in return. They now have just four picks in this upcoming draft.

MilkmanDanimal wrote:

Pretty surprised by that compensation; he's broken 800 yards once in seven years, is frequently injured, and has averaged less than 50 catches/year. He's got a career ~58% catch rate, and hasn't exactly been a deep ball specialist, so that seems like a lot for him. The fact the Dolphins were willing to send him elsewhere in the division is probably a sign they don't exactly have a lot of confidence in his future.

Edit: OH SH*T I forgot he went to Louisville, I know who's a comin' . . .

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Goddammit. I wanted Teddy to DeVante like the old days. Stupid Dolphins.

Yes, he has been hurt a lot. Think that has hurt his production as much as anything, never staying healthy and getting a full season of work. Only once has he played 16 games and that was the 72 catch, 1200 yard season. Pretty solid.

The draft is really just a front for this thread.

It's really to monitor Garoppolo getting stuck with the 49ers and Kapernick coming back to play for the Seahawks.

Kapernick is not coming back. He committed the ultimate sin of making the owners at least momentarily think about their own racism, and not one of them will forgive him for that. He’d have been better off had he been the typical athlete and assaulted a woman or two.

billt721 wrote:

Kapernick is not coming back. He committed the ultimate sin of making the owners at least momentarily think about their own racism, and not one of them will forgive him for that. He’d have been better off had he been the typical athlete and assaulted a woman or two.

The year is 2049.

There's 40 NFL teams. The world is wrapping up world war 4. Kapernick: 'I can still play'.

Curious thing for me is that if he can play you figure one team would break rank at this point and just say f*ck it I'm winning the Superbowl. Or at least I'm not f*cking starting Mitch Trubisky.

Stele wrote:

Yes, he has been hurt a lot. Think that has hurt his production as much as anything, never staying healthy and getting a full season of work. Only once has he played 16 games and that was the 72 catch, 1200 yard season. Pretty solid.

While I appreciate homerism in all forms, a guy who has consistently hovered around 50 yards/game for seven years is probably likely to continue to hover around 50 yards/game. It's not just the injuries, as he's played double-digit games every year; it's that in the games he's played, he's just been consistently . . . fine. He's basically had a solid #3 WR kind of career outside one good season.

Would be amazing if THIS is what got Snyder punted.

Then again, you mess with people's money...

MilkmanDanimal wrote:
Stele wrote:

Yes, he has been hurt a lot. Think that has hurt his production as much as anything, never staying healthy and getting a full season of work. Only once has he played 16 games and that was the 72 catch, 1200 yard season. Pretty solid.

While I appreciate homerism in all forms, a guy who has consistently hovered around 50 yards/game for seven years is probably likely to continue to hover around 50 yards/game. It's not just the injuries, as he's played double-digit games every year; it's that in the games he's played, he's just been consistently . . . fine. He's basically had a solid #3 WR kind of career outside one good season.

I think Parker is better than his numbers, but there's no getting around the fact that health is a big limiting factor.

Miami's offensive ranks over Parker's whole career: 26, 24, 25, 31, 27, 22, 25. He's only once seen an offense that wasn't bottom 1/4th of the league, and that one just barely missed by 2 spots. Granted, he's one component of those low performing offenses, but it's not like the passing game was creating a lot of high production from any of their other pass catchers. Those first 4 seasons were one Joe Philbin and three Adam Gase years, so... yeah.

If he can stay on the field, I think he could be a solid WR2 in a non-bottom-feeding offense. It's hard to expect a guy's health to seriously improve in year 8, though.

The 3rd round pick the Patriots gave up in trade is interesting. One factor there might be that, had they acquired a starting-caliber WR via free agency, they likely would have lost the 3rd round compensatory pick they're going to get from losing JC Jackson. Giving up the 3rd in trade rather than losing the compensatory pick, they were at least able to get another draft pick sent back their way. (Though they could have waited until after the draft to sign a free agent WR without losing the compensatory pick, but they might not have felt like they could wait, or that there's even anyone they really wanted that's left.)

Prederick wrote:

Would be amazing if THIS is what got Snyder punted.

Then again, you mess with people's money...

Teflon Danny (can he change his name to Don?) must be sitting on several emails/memos (something) that are of nuclear level deterrent. The NFL has bent over backwards to protect him and it doesn’t make any sense at this point.

I also find it fascinating that somehow Gruden’s dirt selectively leaked from inside and now it’s going the opposite. I wonder if the Grudens have a friend inside the WFT that is leaking for revenge.

This is quite the infographic.

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Someone needs to figure out the link between orange uniforms and players getting arrested.

I bet around thirty of the Vikings were from the party boat.

Pink Stripes wrote:

Someone needs to figure out the link between orange uniforms and players getting arrested.

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How many of those teams had serial killers?

Seahawks are supposedly willing to trade DK Metcalf "for the right price".

Yes, please, tear it all down. Let John Schneider have all the picks he wants if he keeps getting rid of the few he managed to get right.

*Legion* wrote:

Seahawks are supposedly willing to trade DK Metcalf "for the right price".

Yes, please, tear it all down. Let John Schneider have all the picks he wants if he keeps getting rid of the few he managed to get right.

I'm curious what that right price might be.

Packers have been linked by the blogs for obvious reasons but doubt they are actually interested in a blockbuster big value trade.

Hard not to be interested as DK is an absolute freak of nature. I bet it will be some random team out of left field that offers way over what makes sense.

jowner wrote:
*Legion* wrote:

Seahawks are supposedly willing to trade DK Metcalf "for the right price".

Yes, please, tear it all down. Let John Schneider have all the picks he wants if he keeps getting rid of the few he managed to get right.

I'm curious what that right price might be.

NO, NOT YOU

*Legion* wrote:
jowner wrote:
*Legion* wrote:

Seahawks are supposedly willing to trade DK Metcalf "for the right price".

Yes, please, tear it all down. Let John Schneider have all the picks he wants if he keeps getting rid of the few he managed to get right.

I'm curious what that right price might be.

NO, NOT YOU

Oh you don't have to worry about that.

If the price isn't insane it makes too much sense for the Packers. So it won't happen.

It will be some random team like the Jets or Communists offering some silly package and new contract.

TheGameguru wrote:

How many of those teams had serial killers?

My former team has a serial sexual assaulter. Does that count?

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