The Some Like It HOT TAKES thread

Veloxi wrote:

Nuclear Throne is okay but it's no Streets of Rogue.

Streets of Rogue is basically a roguelite immersive sim. I consider it a separate class from the shooter roguelites and thus does not fall into the Nuclear Throne with extra crap category.

*Legion* wrote:

That's the sound of quality.

If you have earbuds in and your device volume turned up, it's more like the sound of "holy Jesus I'm uninstalling this and remembering the developer's name to avoid in the future".

*Legion* wrote:
Veloxi wrote:

Nuclear Throne is okay but it's no Streets of Rogue.

Streets of Rogue is basically a roguelite immersive sim. I consider it a separate class from the shooter roguelites and thus does not fall into the Nuclear Throne with extra crap category.

You move those goalposts as much as you want. I said what I said.

Well I appreciate the conversation as it made me realize that Veloxi didn't say "Streets of RAGE", which was a fully sub-zero take.

The new Streets of Rage 4 is pretty good though.

But Streets of Rogue is like the Deus Ex of roguelites.

I realise I'm probably ripping off Your Favourite Band Sucks, but the only reason Frank Sinatra is so highly regarded is because people are too boring/racist/sexist/all of the above to give even 30 seconds of time to Billie Holiday. Like, there's nothing he did that she didn't do 1000x better. Well, that and the mafia thing I guess.

Edit: as further proof - we all know for a fact that Sinatra and his ilk wouldn't dare come even remotely close to something like Strange Fruit - not in his heyday, not even in the 90's when he could have got away with it.

Meanwhile Billie Holliday first recorded that song in 1939. 1939!

An even more direct example that's been made by others is comparing how Billie Holliday's addiction to drugs was handled in the press and by authorities compared to Judy Garland's addiction. Judy got cover ups, opportunities for rehab, and was known for struggling with addition but was never blamed for it.

On the other hand, Billie was arrested, targeted as a example to avoid in anti-drug messaging and had fewer (or no) opportunities for rehab. This has been seen as partly her race, but also as backlash from authorities and government for her daring to sing about race in songs like Strange Fruit.

The first round of Elden Ring reactions were firmly in "Interesting, but probably not for me" territory, but quickly escalated to "The Snyder Cut of Games," and have now rocketed past that into areas I'm frightened to chart.

Cold take: Daredevil is the best Batman.

Which Daredevil?

Quintin_Stone wrote:

Which Daredevil?

Duh...

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Quintin_Stone wrote:

Which Daredevil?

I laughed a little as I just realized Affleck was the worst Daredevil AND Batman.

But to answer your question, I just mean conceptually. Bats have pretty sorry eyesight and great hearing after all.

Chairman_Mao wrote:
Quintin_Stone wrote:

Which Daredevil?

I laughed a little as I just realized Affleck was the worst Daredevil AND Batman.

But to answer your question, I just mean conceptually. Bats have pretty sorry eyesight and great hearing after all.

I was shocked at how much I liked Batfleck in that Batman v Superman garbage fire; I completely bought his old, burned-out Batman thing and he did a good Bruce Wayne. He and Gail Gadot were the only good things about that movie.

Then Justice League happened, and, uh, I didn't like him in that role anymore. Regardless, he had a brief moment, and still way better than Val Kilmer or George Clooney.

People online are giving the Sonic Frontiers gameplay footage that has been released a barrage of thumbs-downs, and are super disappointed.

They really shouldn't be surprised. Sonic games are not and have never been good games. Sonic is not and has never been a good character.

The "good Sonic games" are a mass shared delusion from the '90s. They were fixated on speed because speed was the jingly-car-keys that distracted you from the fact that there was nothing else there.

The Dreamcast games weren't good either. They basically played themselves.

Sonic is the Tim Tebow of video game mascots: way more popular than he has ever earned a right to be.

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I love Sonic games! But in an ironic, it's so crappy its good kind of way. I think people's frustration is because they have a fondness for the franchise that never pans out in good gameplay. I personally love the style, the vibe, the fandom, the music... dunno there is so much to like there. It's just iconic and a window to another world that is more bright and colorful and cool than ours. But it has been a long long LONG time since the franchise has ever felt completely respectable. Probably not since Sonic 3. That disappointment is from fans who feel a deep connection and potential with Sonic games that never quite have their dreams realized. I just love the trainwreck and everything surrounding the culture. The video game world would be a darker and less vibrant place if Sonic were to ever fully go away.

Obvious counterpoint--the original Genesis Sonic games were great not just because of speed, but was a big part of it. That speed changed how you interacted with the game world, and bouncing around, flying through loops, and traversing brightly-colored worlds made it a really exciting experience. Those games had a lot of character and personality, and are rightly remembered as classics.

The moment Sonic tried to step into a 3D world he should have been shot in the back of the head and buried in a shallow grave, though.

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fenomas wrote:

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This deserves way more attention than it's going to get in this thread.

MilkmanDanimal wrote:

Obvious counterpoint--the original Genesis Sonic games were great not just because of speed, but was a big part of it. That speed changed how you interacted with the game world, and bouncing around, flying through loops, and traversing brightly-colored worlds made it a really exciting experience. Those games had a lot of character and personality, and are rightly remembered as classics.

The moment Sonic tried to step into a 3D world he should have been shot in the back of the head and buried in a shallow grave, though.

Yeah, everyone remembers Green Hill Zone and holding right and going through loopedy-loops, but there was a good game in there too. The speed wasn't just a gimmick, having enough momentum let you find secrets and find different routes through the levels, and the beauty was that losing that momentum didn't necessarily lead to a game over, just dropping down to a lower platform and traversing the rest of the level a different way.

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NSMike wrote:

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I might not agree that Sonic was always bad, but I didn't come to the Hot Takes thread to see takes that are mild enough for mass consumption.

merphle wrote:
fenomas wrote:

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This deserves way more attention than it's going to get in this thread.

Yeah because it's babe the blue ox.

hbi2k wrote:

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Sorry, but nope. Mild criticism is one thing, but today’s internet is filled with garbage hot takes, vitriol, and hyperbole - which has largely driven me away from social media. It’s become a dumping ground for complaints about the most inane things.

You wanna share and discuss something you love? Great. You wanna keep nattering on about something you hate? I don’t care… and most other people don’t care either.

I’d rather focus on the positive instead of wallow and get sucked in by the negativity.

PaladinTom wrote:

but today’s internet is filled with garbage hot takes

Clicks on thread named "The Some Like It HOT TAKES thread"

I’d rather focus on the positive instead of wallow and get sucked in by the negativity

You entered a thread about hot takes to complain about hot takes.

I LIKE MY HOT TAKES TO BE MERELY LUKEWARM, THANKYOUVERYMUCH!

Folks, folks, my post was less about disliking Sonic and more about making fun of the take.

"Thing that people have ridiculed for years is bad, actually" isn't a hot take. That's just a take.

Your hot take isn't hot, Legion.

Not liking people expressing their not liking things is a pretty good hot take though.

NSMike wrote:

Your hot take isn't hot, Legion.

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Thank you all for that, I LOL'd.

All CBS shows look the same to me. I watched the pilot of Strange New Worlds and I couldn’t shake the feeling that it looked like CSI: Federation. The color palette seemed similar. The quality of the CGI seemed the same (very soft and lots of flare). The camera rotates around a small crew being really quilt in a way that wouldn’t look out of place in CSI: Miami. I found it very similar in a way that was off-putting.