NFL 2021: The Super Bowl thread

Well, you've made it this far as a Jags fan, might as well survive another 11 months until the Jags fire Baalke because even Jesus can't save the Jags from Baalke.

garion333 wrote:

Well, you've made it this far as a Jags fan, might as well survive another 11 months until the Jags fire Baalke because even Jesus can't save the Jags from Baalke.

I don't think that happens next year; if Khan is such a hardass who refuses to admit he's wrong in the face of the Klown Out and media pressure and Beloved Local Guy Byron Leftwich backing out, I don't think one year is going to be enough to make him swallow his pride and fire Baalke. If he's completely unwilling to look wrong now, Jags fans get I'm guessing two years minimum more with this crap.

garion333 wrote:

Well, you've made it this far as a Jags fan, might as well survive another 11 months until the Jags fire Baalke because even Jesus can't save the Jags from Baalke.

Can't I just sit through another 4-win season from a team that's terrible but at least came about their badness honestly?

I can do those in my sleep.

Ugh.

Go 49ers. Save me, Trey Lance.

MilkmanDanimal wrote:

If he's completely unwilling to look wrong now, Jags fans get I'm guessing two years minimum more with this crap.

Garion's trying to pitch me on how the natural immunities I have built up from prolonged exposure to Baalke will protect me, but I want my f**king Baalke vax NOW.

I get it Legion. The Canucks finally fired their historically terrible GM and AGM after 6 f*cking years of futility. The new front has a lot of work to do and has to figure out if they can fix the stars that have had their development completely bungled.

Vector wrote:

I get it Legion. The Canucks finally fired their historically terrible GM and AGM after 6 f*cking years of futility.

Well crap. The Kings are enjoying the Pacific being so weak right now. Vancouver being bad has been helping a lot.

IS THERE WHERE I TALK ABOUT THE RANGERS BEING GOOD NOW 5-2 EAT IT PANTHERS WOOOOOOOOOOO

Well, it's not head coach, but Anthony Lynn has been hired by the San Francisco 49ers to be assistant head coach.

Lynn goes way back with the Shanahans, having played for the Broncos under Mike Shanahan, during little Kyle's time as a Broncos ball boy.

I thought it was absolute bullsh*t the way he got fired from the Chargers, and I'm glad he's going to be wearing red and gold. He's also probably insurance in the event Mike McDaniel lands the Miami job, which seems to be coming down to him and Kellen Moore.

Sashi Brown leaves NBA's Washington Wizards to be president of NFL's Baltimore Ravens

This makes me happy as a Brown’s fan. And not because he was so good that I think he deserved a second chance.

I haven’t see these many distractions during the 2 weeks leading up to the Super Bowl since Ray Lewis helped his buddy stab someone. They find that white suit yet?

Why, why, why don't they just make the Pro Bowl flag football? This is like year six of these players (rightfully) playing the game at like 50% speed in full pads. Just admit it's not a real football game but a celebration of football, let the players have fun without possibly injuring themselves and come up with something different!

What is this Pro Bowl of which you speak? Did Alabama play Ohio State?

Prederick wrote:

Why, why, why don't they just make the Pro Bowl flag football?

Time for me to once again state my case for fixing the Pro Bowl once and for all:

- Combine the Pro Bowl and Senior Bowl into one gigantic event, with everything moved back to Hawaii
- During the week: NFL players participate in skills competitions, Senior Bowl players participate in their practices
- Saturday: big ol' media day featuring Pro Bowl players hanging out with all these draftees-to-be
- Sunday: eliminate the Pro Bowl game, play the Senior Bowl in the TV slot where the Pro Bowl used to be. Fill the broadcast with Pro Bowl players being interviewed in the stands, working as sideline reporters, etc.

The Pro Bowl is a meaningless game with a strong broadcast reach. The Senior Bowl is a meaningful game with a weak broadcast reach. Combine the strengths into a single super-event. People know the Pro Bowl is a sh*t game, but they tune in to the Pro Bowl to see the star players. So give them a TV broadcast full of those star players, but surrounding a meaningful game that happens on the same weekend every year.

And at the same time, this will serve as a growth opportunity for the NFL Draft broadcasts, because those eyeballs that watch the Pro Bowl each year will now be more familiar with the incoming wave of draftees. Getting people to actually watch the Senior Bowl would kick interest in the draft to the next level.

Also, I keep saying "Senior Bowl", but in my scenario, I would actually replace the Senior Bowl with something that is exactly the same, but open to all draft declared underclassmen as well, and call it something like the "NFL Draft Showcase at the Pro Bowl", or something. Whatever the branding department comes up with, but something that states a direct link to the draft, because the average NFL fan doesn't really know what the Senior Bowl is or why they should care, hence nobody watches it.

Do the 49ers get draft compensation?

Vector wrote:

Do the 49ers get draft compensation?

Yes. They will receive two 3rd round picks, one this year and one in 2023.

It will help replace draft capital given up in the Trey Lance deal, which was already helped a lot by the compensation they got for both Robert Saleh and Marty Mayhew.

Anyone else feeling old right now looking at his picture?

Rat Boy wrote:

Anyone else feeling old right now looking at his picture?

Well the eyeglasses I'm wearing right now look exactly like what he's wearing in the picture, so I'm feeling young hotshot head coach age.

At least until I compare hair with him.

How much is he getting per loss?

*Legion* wrote:
Prederick wrote:

Why, why, why don't they just make the Pro Bowl flag football?

Time for me to once again state my case for fixing the Pro Bowl once and for all:

I'm with you on most of this, but I say take most of your idea but play both games, and make it 7 on 7 flag football.

Personally, my ideal Pro Bowl is a slightly more professional Rock n' Jock event.

Mere hours after playing in a Pro Bowl that he did not remotely deserve being voted into, Alvin Kamara was arrested for "battery resulting in substantial bodily harm", following an incident at a Las Vegas Strip nightclub. Maybe someone told him his 3.7 yards per carry this season was crap and didn't belong in the Pro Bowl...

Usually these things happen late into the night, but Kamara got the police called on him at 5:50pm, when Vegas had barely gotten dark.

TheGameguru wrote:

I haven’t see these many distractions during the 2 weeks leading up to the Super Bowl since Ray Lewis helped his buddy stab someone. They find that white suit yet?

Sigh. I guess it's time for me to take the bait again.

So a pair of homicidal assholes pick a fight with Ray Lewis in order to fish for settlement money. Ray says f*ck that and tells his entire crew that they're leaving. The assholes chase them out into the parking lot and attempt to murder one of his friends with a champagne bottle. Ray's friend defends himself and during the altercation, the assholes end up with karmic fatal stab wounds. Ray freaks out because he is a black man and knows that he isn't going to get treated fairly and ditches the evidence in a panic.

Even here in the People's Republic of Maryland he fulfilled his obligation to retreat and demonstrated all necessary prerequisites to a rock solid self preservation defense. If someone tries to murder you, you retreat where safely possible, they pursue you and continue their violent assault, they get what they get.

Ray Lewis was the victim of a crime. Not the perpetrator.

Speaking of taking the bait, there is a "new" deflategate report from PFT saying that a highly ranked NFL officer lied to Chris Mortensen and that the NFL destroyed the data about the ball pressure measurements they took during the following season, two things every Patriots fan knows since 2015.

And speaking of milking old Patriots controversies, a 30 for 30 about the Tuck Rule came out last night and it wasn't very good.

The PFT report in question, which in turn is from an excerpt from a book Florio wrote.

Disappointingly, the Texans head coaching search appears set to end without granting us the Josh McCown Era that we so richly deserve.

Instead, they're apparently so satisfied with their coaching staff from last season that they're promoting from within, elevating Lovie Smith to head coach.

I find it interesting how minority hiring has picked up right after the Brian Flores lawsuit was filed. (At least, outside of Jacksonville.)

*Legion* wrote:

Disappointingly, the Texans head coaching search appears set to end without granting us the Josh McCown Era that we so richly deserve.

Instead, they're apparently so satisfied with their coaching staff from last season that they're promoting from within, elevating Lovie Smith to head coach.

I find it interesting how minority hiring has picked up right after the Brian Flores lawsuit was filed. (At least, outside of Jacksonville.)

I hate to give Easterby any credit whatsoever but he did hire Culley last season as well.

Good for Lovie. He's being set up to fail, like his predecessor, though.

Am I missing something or does it make very little sense to fire Culley after one year to then promote from within? Especially since I don't think Culley's performance was that bad considering the state of the franchise and the roster. I guess it's easy to say "well, it's the Texans, nothing makes sense" but still.

Dysfunction does not make sense, otherwise it would not be dysfunction.

Agree with your point though - if Lovie was a better choice, why not make him interim? Cully was not that awful, considering the situation he was placed in which was/is awful. But, again dysfunction does not make sense.

I do feel bad for Lovie who I think is a good coach and will be looking for work this time next year,

Yeah, I don't think hiring Lovie Smith in and of itself is a bad move. Lovie is a quality football coach, and certainly competent enough to run the Texans.

But it feels like them making a choice by default rather than having an actual vision.

It feels like they were hot to bring in Josh McDaniels, but McDaniels wasn't into them, especially once he had the opportunity to go to a more talented Raiders team, and handpick his own GM in the form of his longtime buddy Dave Ziegler to boot.

And once McDaniels was off the board, the Texans just seemed to drift.

Lovie's good, but I agree, he's probably looking for work again next year, when the front office regroups and tries to come up with their new strategy.