RIP Meat Loaf

Bar Out of Hell is a masterpiece. It's a shame egos made it so they never reached that height again.

RIP

His name was Robert Paulson.

Dude f*cked around with COVID and found out.

Not really into meatloaf. I probably heard something from him before but only really know him from when he teamed up with Chef from South Park.

OG_slinger wrote:

Dude f*cked around with COVID and found out.

I suppose some "I would do anything for love, but vaccination? No, I won't do that" comment would be less than entirely appropriate?

MilkmanDanimal wrote:
OG_slinger wrote:

Dude f*cked around with COVID and found out.

I suppose some "I would do anything for love, but vaccination? No, I won't do that" comment would be less than entirely appropriate?

On the one hand, probably. On the other hand, I’m an avid follower of r/HermainCainAward, so no.

I would do anything for love, but I won't do vaxx.

Maybe this- "I would do anything for life, but I won't get vaxxed."

Stay classy, GWJ.

TIL - The woman who sang the female part on "Paradise By The Dashboard Light" - Ellen Foley, was also the defense attorney on season 2 of Nightcourt.

Sounds like he was vaccinated but he was pissed about mask mandates and some woman yelling at him on a plane because he didn't want to mask up? I tried to distill some of the cynical clickbait culture war articles that were making the rounds yesterday, and it seemed like they were trying reaaaally hard to stoke up some outrage from some very sparse fuel. I certainly could be wrong about that, though.

(also RIP, I was never a fan of his music but any guy who can use the stage name Meat Loaf and sell over 100 million records has my sincere respect.)

Hey diddle diddle the cat and the fiddle is a lie like all the rest, the astronauts killed the man in the moon, growing up took care of the rest.

Podunk wrote:

Sounds like he was vaccinated but he was pissed about mask mandates and some woman yelling at him on a plane because he didn't want to mask up? I tried to distill some of the cynical clickbait culture war articles that were making the rounds yesterday, and it seemed like they were trying reaaaally hard to stoke up some outrage from some very sparse fuel. I certainly could be wrong about that, though.

(also RIP, I was never a fan of his music but any guy who can use the stage name Meat Loaf and sell over 100 million records has my sincere respect.)

His family has refused to reveal his vaccination status, so given his public statements about vaccination and the fact he died of COVID (which they also refuse to acknowledge) it's unlikely he was fully vaccinated.

In August he said that the COVID lock downs were "political," rather than effective and required public health measures, further saying that "but they cannot continue to stop life because of politics. And, right now, they're stopping because of politics."

He further said about COVID "If I die, I die, but I'm not going to be controlled," which echoes the craziest of right wing conspiracies that COVID is a completely made up crisis designed to coax or scare people to surrender their 'freedoms' to the government.

He also did his own research, saying "And on CNN last night, it finally came out that the masks we're all wearing are useless. But I've known that for six months.They don't do anything. They don't stop you from getting COVID. They're just a nuisance and make your nose itch and make it so you can't breathe."

In regards to the flying incident he told a reporter "We had to go on the airplane with the paper masks and then on the way back, we got a Nazi: ‘Get your mask on now!’ They’re power-mad now."

So because he "knew" masks were useless he called a woman asking that he mask up on a plane a Nazi and, again, tried to make it about people and the government infringing on what he considered his rights rather than people taking basic precautionary measures to ensure neither they or the people around them get sick during a global pandemic.

I know this is a RIP thread, but the day he died of a disease we have multiple, highly effective vaccines for there were nearly 4,000 COVID deaths in the US alone.

We're now in year three of a pandemic that largely still exists because people like Meat Loaf railed against vaccines and masks and thought public health measures designed to keep people alive were really politicians they didn't like trying to somehow "control" them.

That Meat Loaf--who was massively vulnerable to a disease like COVID--used his last months on the planet to spread anti-vax and anti-mask bullsh*t overwhelms anything he might have accomplished during his career. He had the privilege of having access to media and used it to spread misinformation and willful ignorance.

Frankly I've lost my ability to have sympathy or compassion for people like Meat Loaf over the past year. His was an avoidable death. But he chose to ignore the precautions that would have kept him alive because he thought he knew better than epidemiologists and public health officials.

That's as much his legacy as one top-selling album from the late 70s and a couple of hit singles from decades ago.

From Wiki:

In a 2017 interview with Billboard, he made positive remarks about U.S. President Donald Trump, Ivanka Trump, and Donald Trump Jr.; they had worked together on The Celebrity Apprentice in 2011.[137] In an interview with the Daily Mail in 2021, he called Greta Thunberg "brainwashed" due to her views on climate change.[138]

I already knew he was trash from watching his time on Celebrity Apprentice (which I now feel bad for ever enjoying of course).

RIP Meat Loaf. Bat Out of Hell is still a masterpiece. I'm sorry this thread seems to have become political.

It's a rough consequence of taking actions to ensure your death will be political. I really do hope there are some people out there who see the response to these very, very pointless deaths brought on by political idiocy, and rethink their behavior. And that being the case, we sure toss around "masterpiece" in a cavalier manner.

SpacePProtean wrote:

And that being the case, we sure toss around "masterpiece" in a cavalier manner.

Just because you don't like something doesn't mean it can't be considered a masterpiece by others. The record is a testament to 70s male ego gone rampant. It's beautiful in the most trashy way possible!

Math wrote:

RIP Meat Loaf. Bat Out of Hell is still a masterpiece. I'm sorry this thread seems to have become political.

It is still one of the top selling albums of all time. #6 according to the listicle I saw.

'Politics' isn't a team sport. It's literal life and death.

Perpetuating dangerous misinformation isn't cheering for *checks Twitter* The Buffalo Bills. It's murder.

People who won't see this are telling on themselves.

I will say that's it's sad he's dead. It's sad that someone whose work was important to so many, and who was by all accounts a warm and kind friend, has this as their epitaph.

garion333 wrote:

Just because you don't like something doesn't mean it can't be considered a masterpiece by others. The record is a testament to 70s male ego gone rampant. It's beautiful in the most trashy way possible!

MrDeVil909 wrote:

I will say that's it's sad he's dead. It's sad that someone whose work was important to so many, and who was by all accounts a warm and kind friend, has this as their epitaph.

Yep. It would have been great if he'd decided to just be this kitsch figure I didn't really Get, but he decided to make his death political.