Star Wars Misc. Catch-All

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Plot Detail Annoyances:
- Boba Fett fought his way out of the Sarlacc pit and emerged from the sand, WEARING HIS ARMOR. Why does he not remember that? Why does he think his armor is still in the sarlacc?

- Fennec's rescuer at the end of the Mandalorian episode had spur noises when he walked. That's how everybody knew it was probably Boba Fett's feet. This episode: No spur noise during that scene.

Yeah, this show's definitely several steps down from The Mandalorian....

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... who they're bringing in maybe next week to hopefully bail out what's left of it.

Also...

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... Jennifer Beals' character is totally the real power pulling the strings on Tatooine.

I liked this episode. Big guy gets a job. Sniper gets some use. Big baby gets fed a snack. Kind of odd Boba doesn't know about his armor since he was wearing it. Kind of sad someone ate it and he didn't even do anything wrong. Kind of happy some other guys ate it. They were jerks..

I can see why people didn't like this episode though.

Baron Of Hell wrote:

I liked this episode. Big guy gets a job. Sniper gets some use. Big baby gets fed a snack. Kind of odd Boba doesn't know about his armor since he was wearing it. Kind of sad someone ate it and he didn't even do anything wrong. Kind of happy some other guys ate it. They were jerks..

I can see why people didn't like this episode though.

This was the first episode where we saw Boba Fett actually being Boba Fett. It’s not quite as good as all the Tusken Raider stuff in the second Episode, but there was some action and he actually got around to shooting some people.

I take the point the Tusken Raiders have altered his world view a little, but that was almost a throw away comment while talking to Fennic. You’d have thought they would make a bigger deal out of that to be honest but it was there.

I thought it was a big improvement after last weeks episode, I’ll say that but overall it’s still the weakest of these Star Wars spin offs

On Black Krrsantan's anger toward the Trandoshans, this is in Wookipedia:

During the Imperial Era, five Trandoshans were part of an acquisition crew working for the Xonti Brothers. Led by Noka, they went to Kashyyyk to capture Wookiees. Kootan was keen to kill one but Noka reminded him of the job at hand. Noka used his scanner to locate a Wookiee and they found one which was sleeping. Kootan shot a stun at it to realize it was bleeding and left for dead. The Trandoshans then found themselves under attack by Black Krrsantan who killed the other three Trandoshans and pinned down Noka and Kootan. Kootan tried to kill Krrsantan and was knocked out by the Wookiee before being thrown into a tree, killing him. Krrsantan then demanded that Noka brought him to the Xonti Brothers. Noka did so and lived on to tell his story to two journalists.[16]

Also apparently trandoshans, being lizards, can regrow limbs.

While I still overall am enjoying it, they're still glossing over lot of the details. Still, it was nice to seem them doing actual recon and planning their next move for a change.

The only real issue I had with this episode was that it indicates that the earlier episodes skipped over a lot of his time with the Tusken tribe. He got out of the sarlaac pit just as the Jawas were first arriving to pick over the skiff wreckage, so not very long after the skiff was destroyed, which happened in 4 ABY. Mandolorian season 1 didn't happen until 9 ABY, so that's 5 years between him being first captured by the Tuskens and him coming across the dying Fennec Shand and getting his ship back. He clearly hadn't been casing Jabba's palace that long before he found her, so that should put the tribe getting wiped out by the speeder gang happening relatively soon before he found Shand. He didn't take long to ingratiate himself after first becoming a prisoner of the Tuskens either, so say a few months from being captured to when he saved the child, and another few months to maybe half a year between when the tribe was wiped out by the speeder gang and him finding Shand. All in all, he likely spent 4 of those 5 years just chilling with the tribe, which certainly accounts for why it changed him, but I didn't get the impression he'd spent that long with them from the flashbacks we'd already seen.

Last night, it solidified in my head why I am not enjoying this as much as I was enjoying the Mandalorian.

For me, a large part of it is the show doesn't really know what it is trying to be. The Mandalorian was a western/samurai story. And changing planets gave us a sense of progression.

This comes across as a series of fetch quests and back story. Boba has had so much fan fiction and fan worship built up around him as a bounty hunter, to see him laid this low, without any indication of his battle prowess, cunning or dangerousness is, well, boring.

This comes across as more of an origin story of Boba Fett, as opposed to the continuing story of a great bounty hunter. I was expecting The Lone Ranger. I am getting one of the Three Amigos.

He just doesn't seem competent. If his time in the sarlacc weakened him, that should have been mentioned, so he has an excuse for being, well, a doof.

My personal take is this was supposed to be the Sopranos in space. A damaged guy taking over a crime family.

It just got Disney-fied to the point it's not as interesting as some of us would want.*

*I don't hate the show, it's just kind of "there" instead of something I get excited about.

I am enjoying it, warts and all.

Some questions and comments...

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Did we ever see the body of the Tusken Raider with the black robe that helped train him after the attack? I didn't so there is hope he/she survived

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I am not a big fan of all the mod enhanced people running around. Seldom did we see that many in any Star Wars movie plus they look flat out dumb with the glowing goggles etc..I am all for cyborgs and all but these come across as cheesy with their rainbow bikes and all

MannishBoy wrote:

My personal take is this was supposed to be the Sopranos in space. A damaged guy taking over a crime family.

I had the same thought. Is this supposed to be the Sopranos in space minus the adult material?

4 episodes in and it still feels like it's missing something. Kind of hoping form some kind of awesome scene, twist, cameo, tie or something to happen to mix things up a bit.

karmajay wrote:

TBH it is a real accurate representation of people that are really good at something and then jump way up the chain quickly and get in over there head. I agree that it may be a bit naïve but IMO that is what the story is trying to tell. Boba Fett was a feared bounty hunter that went through a mid life crisis/change but did not change those old goals up and is now in a situation that is trying to push him back to his old old super violent ways. The story beats where he has to keep reacting are there to back up these types of positions. If he just came in and did everything right we would have a one ep story. They are also trying to show growth to the character. Giving the street gang jobs instead of just killing them for showing him backbone is an example of this.

That might work well for a bounty hunter, but not for a crime lord that plans to rule through respect rather than fear.

This is what the whole season is about in regards to the "present" part f the show - the transition and if he can handle it.

I have a similar take on it. You can take the bounty out of the bounty hunter, but you can't take the hunter out of Boba Fett. Or something.

He's seen where bounty hunting got Jango and others. He's seen it's better to be at the top, but you still have to watch your back if your enforcers are only kept in place with fear or money. He's seen the loyalty of the tuskens that came with respect.

He needs followers, but he also needs to pay them. The quickest way is to knock off Bib Fortuna and start collecting tributes. Now he's gaining followers and paying them (the bikers, the gamorreans, Krrsantan, Fennec), but he's getting their loyalty with respect instead of fear.

It does put him in a weak position, but it's the path dictated by his skill set.

Also did anyone else notice:

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Right after Fennec says "Credits can buy muscle, if you know where to look," the theme from The Mandalorian plays? I think Din Djarin may show up.

deftly wrote:

Also did anyone else notice:

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Right after Fennec says "Credits can buy muscle, if you know where to look," the theme from The Mandalorian plays? I think Din Djarin may show up.

Yeah I picked up on that right away. Hopefully it is what actually happens. That could help to liven up the series.

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The flashbacks seem to have caught back up to current events maybe the action will pick up going forward. One would think so after the "war is coming" comments from Boba and Fennec.

Medmey wrote:

Also now that

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The flashbacks seem to have caught back up to current events maybe the action will pick up going forward. One would think so after the "war is coming" comments from Boba and Fennec.

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The droid also mentioned that Boba was now fully healed, so yeah it definitely seems like the bacta tank flashbacks are over.

In Lost form, now we'll get Fennec flashbacks

Then we'll have a Danny Trejo spin-off: Rancor Whisperer

MannishBoy wrote:

Then we'll have a Danny Trejo spin-off: Rancor Whisperer

Which in every conceivable way would be better than Book of Fett

I was all geared up to continue not liking this series very much. But this episode was quite good and finally gave us a reason for Fett's motivation. This should’ve been the first episode of the series.

Or better yet, this series should have been told chronologically. Nothing would’ve been lost in the narrative.

As for the Mods. I don’t hate them - except that slow @ss bike chase. They do stick out, but that is by design. I like that they have a very Eighties esthetic in and around the Seventies one of Tatooine. I imagine this was a group of kids from a particular planet where mods are illegal so they struck out for a backwater planet where they can do their thing without getting hassled.

Confession time: as much as I despise the prequels, I seem to be one of the few weirdos that didn’t hate the diner from Attack of the Clones.

MannishBoy wrote:

In Lost form, now we'll get Fennec flashbacks :)

I was hoping we'd get some Gamorrean guard flashbacks when they put him in the tank.

I take the point the Tusken Raiders have altered his world view a little, but that was almost a throw away comment while talking to Fennic. You’d have thought they would make a bigger deal out of that to be honest but it was there.

They have been SHOWING this the whole time though. The line is just the cap for it.

I get it - it seems most people here wanted action murder hobo vice a story about Boba Fett and growth. I mean isn't a show about an action murder hobo something we've seen 1k times?

Anyway, I continue to enjoy the series. I'm not going to be the type of person that comes in here to die on a hill every week.

karmajay wrote:

Anyway, I continue to enjoy the series. I'm not going to be the type of person that comes in here to die on a hill every week. :)

Same. I loved the first few episodes and continue to enjoy it. I think I stated what I liked about it earlier in this thread that explained how I was seeing it differently than others here were.

And if the speculation about future episodes is true, that will be very cool- but I'm not going say that it will save the show, because I don't think this show needs any saving up to this point.

I don't want action murder hobo either. I like where they're taking Fett's character, I just want them to remember that he isn't some clueless newbie just getting his feet wet with organized crime for the first time. He's been good in how he's reacted to things so far but woefully lax in his planning up to this point. A lot of that can be fixed simply by changing who is delivering the exposition dumps. Rather than have other characters tell Fett things he should already know, have Fett be the one telling it to them by laying out the next part of his plan. Making it up as he goes works for a character like Han Solo, not one like Boba Fett.

EA announces 3 Star Wars games

Game Director Stig Asmussen and his team at the studio are already working on the next game in the action adventure Star Wars Jedi series, and are joined by two new teams working to deliver additional unique Star Wars gameplay experiences across multiple genres. Leading the development of Respawn’s all-new Star Wars first-person shooter game is Peter Hirschmann, Game Director at Respawn, who has a long and accomplished history with the Star Wars franchise. The third title is a Star Wars strategy game developed through a production collaboration with the newly formed studio Bit Reactor, helmed by games industry veteran Greg Foerstch. Respawn will produce the new Star Wars strategy game while Bit Reactor leads on the development of the title

Ooh. Start Wars as a setting doesn’t hold a ton of appeal for me anymore, but I’m interested in that strategy game by the ex-XCOM devs.

One thing I can say for sure about this episode:

That little droid is going to get so much merchandise.

Just watching ep. 3.... this show is painful. Who decided that it would be cool to have power rangers colored biker gang? It is like a bad comedy show.

Up to episode 5 now. I assume they brought in Mando because Fett's story was boring the sh*t out of everyone?

Or from this review

With two episodes left, The Book of Boba Fett finds itself increasingly out of time to bring its myriad lingering plot threads to any kind of satisfying narrative solution, or even find exactly it wants its vision for Boba Fett to be. The stage is set for something grand as Din Djarin and Boba Fett reunite—but that stage has been set for several episodes now, as The Book of Boba Fett has clunkily jammed the brakes over and over again.

In all honestly this feels like what every die hard star wars geek feared - Disney seems to be milking it the franchise for cash without any real direction or soul

farley3k wrote:

Up to episode 5 now. I assume they brought in Mando because Fett's story was boring the sh*t out of everyone?

I've just watched episode 5 and really all it served to show was just how good The Mandalorian was and everything that's missing from Book of Fett. If the can do that starfighter sequence in this episode then they should be hanging their heads in shame they ever allowed that speeder bike "chase" in episode 3 to be shown.

By far the best episode so far and Fett nowhere to be seen. What the hell are they thinking?

Wait, you mean that wasn't the first episode of season 3 of The Mandalorian?

farley3k wrote:

In all honestly this feels like what every die hard star wars geek feared - Disney seems to be milking it the franchise for cash without any real direction or soul

I think it has direction and soul, they just got bogged down with the setup. I think the problem stems from their starting point. Because they used the scene of him taking over to announce the series, they had to start from there. Then they had to use flashbacks and exposition dumps to get us up to speed on how he got to that point and the problems he now faces because of it. It also meant some rather rushed character introductions like the mod gang. Now that the stage is finally set, I'm looking forward to see how he handles things as a more honorable crime lord.

As good as the episode was and as much as I liked watching it, spending the *entire* episode on what Din has been up to wasn't a smart move. It just made me wish they'd release the next season of Mando already, rather than make me want to watch more Book of Boba Fett to see what part of Boba's plan he needs Dins help with.

A side note on the mod gang's aesthetic sticking out so much: I see them as a reaction to the Empire falling. Sort of like a counterculture movement to the uniformity, drab colors, and overall oppressiveness of life under the Empire.

Stengah wrote:

spending the *entire* episode on what Din has been up to wasn't a smart move. It just made me wish they'd release the next season of Mando already

Oh crap....just been skimming this conversation of late since I'm not into Fett much at all. Will I have to have watched this series to make sense of the next Mandalorian season??

Keithustus wrote:
Stengah wrote:

spending the *entire* episode on what Din has been up to wasn't a smart move. It just made me wish they'd release the next season of Mando already

Oh crap....just been skimming this conversation of late since I'm not into Fett much at all. Will I have to have watched this series to make sense of the next Mandalorian season??

Yes and no. You will want to watch this last episode of Boba Fett but I don’t think you’re gonna need to watch all the rest of it to understand what’s going on in Mandalorian

Same here. I'm fine with Fett dying to the Sarlac and I've never understood the expanded universe need to retcon that.

Mandalorian is new and interesting. Fett is old and boring.