NFL 2021: The Week 17 thread

49ers lead finally.

Bipolar people aren’t acting like AB. By and large they don’t lie and certainly don’t murder and kill people. Let’s not equate a mental Illness with anymore stigma than it already has.

Didn't see the hold on Trey's running TD. Niners had to settle for FG. Still up 20-7.

MilkmanDanimal wrote:

Between the Bill O'Brien report and the Patriots dropping 50, is anyone near Legion's house able to stop by and take away any and all sharp, pointy objects?

I'd take BOB over Urban 10 times out of 10. And it wouldn't even rate as Baalke's worst head coach hire.

And you think giving up 50 to New England was a bad thing? Hell no, that was a stake through the heart of Bevell's hopes of removing the interim tag. The best Seattle Coach Voltron destruction that I could hope for.

Trey Lance: 16-23, 249 yards, 2 TDs, 1 INT, 116.0 passer rating, 31 rush yards

Had a nice TD run called back on a hold that didn't really help the run happen.

Slow start early on, got lucky with a would-be INT just missed, and playing against a weak Texans D helped, but he sure looked sharper overall than his first start earlier in the year.

He didn't have Kittle in his last start. Jimmy G would look awful without him too.. see, the other games he's missed the last 2 years for proof.

TheGameguru wrote:

Bipolar people aren’t acting like AB. By and large they don’t lie and certainly don’t murder and kill people. Let’s not equate a mental Illness with anymore stigma than it already has.

I was a bit perplexed by your comment until I realized you're talking about my comment that years down the road he's more likely to kill someone than get in the HoF. Yeah, didn't intentionally mean to connect that to my mentioning his (possible) bipolar diagnosis. I was thinking more about the path Kellen Winslow and Darren Sharper took after leaving the NFL. That's where AB is more likely to end up and it has way more to do with probably narcissism and a heavy dose of CTE than anything else.

Mike Glennon: 24 passing yards in a full 4 quarters of play. 4 completions. 4 turnovers.

Someone post the neck o' money picture again.

*Legion* wrote:

Mike Glennon: 24 passing yards in a full 4 quarters of play. 4 completions. 4 turnovers.

Someone post the neck o' money picture again.

@ZackBlatt wrote:

Joe Judge (amid 10+ minute rant) said that there are players that were on the #Giants last year that have been calling him saying "how much they wish they were still here even though they’re getting paid more someone else.” #Giants

Like, I know the Jags and the Lions have the crown, and I've seen them win three SBs in my lifetime, but since 2013, the Giants have been a comically incompetent team, top to bottom.

*Legion* wrote:

Mike Glennon: 24 passing yards in a full 4 quarters of play. 4 completions. 4 turnovers.

Someone post the neck o' money picture again.

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Shout out to Carolina for losing to Taysom Hill, and thus preventing the Niners from clinching their playoff spot this week.

WFT losing to the Eagles didn't help either.

*Legion* wrote:

WFT losing to the Eagles didn't help either.

It helped us

I think Paleo and I are stuck cheering for the Jags next week so the Ravens can get in. Welcome to Legion's hell.

Ugh.

So... this happened at the WTF stadium. A few weeks ago there were also reports of pipes bursting over some seats, and then there was a benches controversy with the Cowboys. What an embarrassment. And that's before even mentioning the abuse of cheerleaders or the fact that they don't have a name. The league has to look into removing Dan Snyder.

So somehow the Iggles are not only in the playoffs, but even clinched their spot a week early.

I honestly had them pegged to win maybe 4-5 games this season.

One funny thing is that they are currently listed at nfl.com as being in the #7 slot for the NFC, yet the #6 team (49ers) have not yet clinched. Hooray for tiebreakers I guess.

Rat Boy wrote:
*Legion* wrote:

Mike Glennon: 24 passing yards in a full 4 quarters of play. 4 completions. 4 turnovers.

Someone post the neck o' money picture again.

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Maybe this from a couple of weeks ago?

Stele wrote:

Never quitting Twitter

Mike Glennon has 1 win since 2014

Glennon's earned over $5.3 mil per win in the NFL (6-24)

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Hrdina wrote:

One funny thing is that they are currently listed at nfl.com as being in the #7 slot for the NFC, yet the #6 team (49ers) have not yet clinched. Hooray for tiebreakers I guess.

Tiebreaks are weird.

Head-to-head, the 49ers win a tiebreak with the Eagles because they beat Philly.

But the 49ers nightmare scenario is ending up in a 3-way tie with both the Eagles and Saints. That gets broken by:

1. Conference win percentage. Eagles 8-4 vs NFC, 49ers and Saints both 6-5 vs NFC. Eagles take #6 seed.

2. Record vs. common opponents (Eagles, Seahawks, Falcons, Packers): Saints 3-3 (after beating Atlanta in week 18, which has to happen for this scenario), 49ers 2-4. Saints take #7 seed.

Also, the 49ers can lose out if both Philly and NO win next week, while the 49ers lose. Then the Eagles take the #6 seed by way of 10-7 record, and the 9-8 49ers again lose a tiebreak with the 9-8 Saints.

But Philly's worst-case scenario is SF and NO winning next week, and Philly losing. Then:

1. 49ers finish 10-7, Eagles and Saints finish 9-8. 49ers take #6 seed.

2. Eagles have a head-to-head win vs. Saints. Eagles take #7 seed.

Hence, Philly is clinched, but a 3-way tie could push them up to the #6 seed and then cause the 49ers to lose a Saints tiebreak.

Another weird tiebreaker fact I just read is that while the Bills are ahead of the Pats right now because they own the head-to-head tiebreaker, the Pats still have a chance at the number 1 seed in the AFC but the Bills do not.

It's not gonna happen because the Bills, Chiefs, and Titans would all have to lose against bad teams, but it still seems really random.

Trey Lance had 205 yards on passes that traveled 10+ yards on the air.

That total is the highest of any 49ers QB in the past 3 seasons.

That's what they spent those draft picks for.

Meanwhile, Trevor Lawrence is arranging another 1:1 meeting with ownership, potentially to express some unhappiness with the decision making from their end of late.

If Trevor raising a stink gets Baalke fired, then he truly is Jaguar Jesus.

On the topic of Baalke:

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Pink Stripes wrote:

Another weird tiebreaker fact I just read is that while the Bills are ahead of the Pats right now because they own the head-to-head tiebreaker, the Pats still have a chance at the number 1 seed in the AFC but the Bills do not.

It's not gonna happen because the Bills, Chiefs, and Titans would all have to lose against bad teams, but it still seems really random.

Really interesting fact: for the second straight year KC has ended the Browns playoff run. Now I can only hope for the draft and an upgrade at QB.... again.

For the Eagles the odds of them avoiding TB in the Playoffs is much better if they lose to Dallas next week.. Beating Dallas next week for the Eagles all but ensures them a TB matchup.

I had the best Sunday in years: I didn't watch a single down of the Panthers game!

I did watch Chiefs-Bengals and Cowboys-Cards and, I dunno, but what's with all the long completed passes? Is that a thing NFL teams are doing these days? And how come those QBs get lots of time (mostly) to throw those passes?

It's like I was watching a whole different sport yesterday.

Enix wrote:

I had the best Sunday in years: I didn't watch a single down of the Panthers game!

I did watch Chiefs-Bengals and Cowboys-Cards and, I dunno, but what's with all the long completed passes? Is that a thing NFL teams are doing these days? And how come those QBs get lots of time (mostly) to throw those passes?

It's like I was watching a whole different sport yesterday.

The problem with everyone who defends Baker Mayfield is this. He is the best QB the Browns have had in 23 years, and that still doesn't mean he is any good.

To win in our Dynasty league Nick Chubb and the Browns D has to score 18 points.

Why oh why do I have to rely on the Browns?!? This isn't going to end well...

Chubb is good for 50 and a touch, and Ben is good for a pick or two. I think you will be ok.

UpToIsomorphism wrote:

Chubb is good for 50 and a touch, and Ben is good for a pick or two. I think you will be ok.

Don't spread your false faith to me unbeliever!

UpToIsomorphism wrote:

The problem with everyone who defends Baker Mayfield is this. He is the best QB the Browns have had in 23 years, and that still doesn't mean he is any good.

PFF calls it something like the "curse of the average QB", and "QB purgatory". When you've got a guy that's too good to just throw away, but who doesn't have enough high-end ability to be one of the difference makers.

It's why you take a chance on guys like Josh Allen and Justin Herbert even when their college tapes aren't sterling. Why you start the process of letting Jimmy G go for a guy with a brief FCS college resume. Even though the risk is that you end up with a Bortles.

They'll suspend him and cut him in the offseason to keep anybody else from signing him, I would guess. No reason to let a pissed-off AB go to the Packers or Chiefs and be a problem in the future.

Enix wrote:

Monday night: Browns at Steelers (with ManningCast!)

Yeah, about that:

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