NCAA Football 2021-22 Season

So LSU's apparently replacing Bayou Monster with Brian Kelly.

Yo what the ever-loving f*ck.

@DragonflyJonez wrote:

Brian Kelly looks like he thinks Sprite is too spicy how is he a culture fit for LSU

But he won't hit on the board's wives, though.

Carlbear95 wrote:
MannishBoy wrote:

And which one of those teams is playing the #1 this week? Or even somebody in the top 5? (None of them)

Fair point.. you know who's also not playing #1 this week? Georgia (they're probably not playing #2 either, and may not be playing #3 given how close the Iron Bowl was). So extending that logic, if Georgia loses this weekend, they are out?

Not likely. Only team that is in the top 5 that has anywhere close to a loss to team close to Alabama is ND's loss to Cincinnati.

MannishBoy wrote:
Carlbear95 wrote:
MannishBoy wrote:

And which one of those teams is playing the #1 this week? Or even somebody in the top 5? (None of them)

Fair point.. you know who's also not playing #1 this week? Georgia (they're probably not playing #2 either, and may not be playing #3 given how close the Iron Bowl was). So extending that logic, if Georgia loses this weekend, they are out?

Not likely. Only team that is in the top 5 that has anywhere close to a loss to team close to Alabama is ND's loss to Cincinnati.

OK then.. so its concluded SEC losses don't count Sorry about your loss to Pitt... if not for that maybe Tennessee would be just on the bubble too

MannishBoy wrote:
Carlbear95 wrote:
MannishBoy wrote:

And which one of those teams is playing the #1 this week? Or even somebody in the top 5? (None of them)

Fair point.. you know who's also not playing #1 this week? Georgia (they're probably not playing #2 either, and may not be playing #3 given how close the Iron Bowl was). So extending that logic, if Georgia loses this weekend, they are out?

Not likely. Only team that is in the top 5 that has anywhere close to a loss to team close to Alabama is ND's loss to Cincinnati.

Even if Bama loses badly... anyone here think Cincinnati can beat any of the other teams in the top 6? Top 10 is doubtful at best.

Fresno State coach Kalen DeBoer going to Washington, where he will beat fewer Pac-12 teams than he would in Fresno.

In related news, Jeff Tedford is reportedly "100% healthy" and interested in returning to coaching. Make it happen Fresno.

manta173 wrote:
MannishBoy wrote:
Carlbear95 wrote:
MannishBoy wrote:

And which one of those teams is playing the #1 this week? Or even somebody in the top 5? (None of them)

Fair point.. you know who's also not playing #1 this week? Georgia (they're probably not playing #2 either, and may not be playing #3 given how close the Iron Bowl was). So extending that logic, if Georgia loses this weekend, they are out?

Not likely. Only team that is in the top 5 that has anywhere close to a loss to team close to Alabama is ND's loss to Cincinnati.

Even if Bama loses badly... anyone here think Cincinnati can beat any of the other teams in the top 6? Top 10 is doubtful at best.

UCF is national champions all over again. And we've got the AD that printed up those silly signs.

MannishBoy wrote:
manta173 wrote:
MannishBoy wrote:
Carlbear95 wrote:
MannishBoy wrote:

And which one of those teams is playing the #1 this week? Or even somebody in the top 5? (None of them)

Fair point.. you know who's also not playing #1 this week? Georgia (they're probably not playing #2 either, and may not be playing #3 given how close the Iron Bowl was). So extending that logic, if Georgia loses this weekend, they are out?

Not likely. Only team that is in the top 5 that has anywhere close to a loss to team close to Alabama is ND's loss to Cincinnati.

Even if Bama loses badly... anyone here think Cincinnati can beat any of the other teams in the top 6? Top 10 is doubtful at best.

UCF is national champions all over again. And we've got the AD that printed up those silly signs.

I’d like to see them try. After all, my alma mater suffered from the same

No one wants to play us because we may beat them, but nobody thinks we are good because we just beat our conference opponents

For two undefeated seasons while I was there, and we had I would argue the best QB in college for two of those years (Chad Pennington and Byron Leftwich) and the best WR I have ever seen (Randy Moss). And out reward:

Going to Detroit to play the Motor City Bowl at Christmas.

Chip Kelly is going to the best job in college football.

Why do I think LSU is the best job in college football?

Bomani Jones wrote:

Because Ed Orgeron and Les Miles won national titles there.

UpToIsomorphism wrote:

Chip Kelly is going to the best job in college football.

Why do I think LSU is the best job in college football?

Bomani Jones wrote:

Because Ed Orgeron and Les Miles won national titles there.

And Will Wade is still allowed to coach basketball after being wiretapped by the FBI talking about "big ass offers" to players. Although in the new world, NIL should handle that money.

UpToIsomorphism wrote:

Brian Kelly is going to the best job in college football.

Why do I think LSU is the best job in college football?

Bomani Jones wrote:

Because Ed Orgeron and Les Miles won national titles there.

Ha...very true.

Wow, this is pretty shocking. But, not in some ways. I learned about this last night when my wife asked me: "Did you see the news? Do you want me to tell you or [ND beat writer] Pete Sampson? Guess..." My response after about 5 sec: "LSU hired Brian Kelly."

I'm not actually upset as a Notre Dame fan (although what does it say about the program when your all-time winningest coach is lured away?). In fact, my initial thought was "Oh, this is good timing if we wanted to hire Luke Fickell."

But, after sleeping on it, I have two thoughts:

1) ND is more likely to hire their current DC Marcus Freeman than Fickell. Fickell would be a lot safer (that's usually the ND way...). But, Freeman is a recruiting dynamo, he's beloved by the players after <1 year on the job, and they have already vetted him exhaustively. The latter point is important given where we are in recruiting / potential bowl games or at a stretch playoff losses, etc.

I also can't help but think that after what has gone on over the last few years, ND feels it is a positive to have an African American coach. We all know the answer, but in a sport dominated by black players, why are nearly all the head coaches pasty old white guys? I think the ND administration appreciates that this is due to a complicated and not just history. They have a DC on staff who is a brilliant, energetic coach who will be a head coach somewhere in the next 1-2 years. Why not lead by example and acknowledge the successful African American coach who is right there?

2) I can think of very few cultural fits that are worse than LSU + Brian Kelly. The dude's a Irish Catholic from Boston. He's always coached in the midwest. He's spent the last decade in this button-up prim-and-proper school...and he's going to LSU?

There have been so many stories written about how comfortable Kelly is at ND, how he has things set so that it's relatively low stress as coaching gigs go...things are about to change, Brian, so buckle up! I'll be happy for him if he wins his championship in year 2. But, I hope he's okay with being fired in year 4.

All right table is set...

Georgia and Michigan's path's are clear... win and they're set
Alabama wins they're in...

Unfortunately (or fortunately) Alabama and Georgia can't both win.. so soon we'll find out if losing the SEC championship is better than winning the Big12, winning the AAC or doing nothing (Notre Dame).

Can't wait to find out the answer to this question! I'm sure we'll have very logical justifications regardless of what comes out of it! See you all next week after the last game (non-mil-academy) of the season! At least the NCAA got one thing right.. they saved the best for last!

Carlbear95 wrote:

Unfortunately (or fortunately) Alabama and Georgia can't both win.. so soon we'll find out if losing the SEC championship is better than winning the Big12, winning the AAC or doing nothing (Notre Dame).

It's almost as if how good your opponents are matters too. Like if the PAC12 had more than one viable school for championships in the last 12 years they might have a leg to stand on, or if you compare how many bowl eligible teams there are from a conference. (PAC12 -6, ACC-4, SEC-13)

It's funny how 6-6 is a bowl eligible celebration for South Carolina but it's fire your coach level for Florida.

manta173 wrote:
Carlbear95 wrote:

Unfortunately (or fortunately) Alabama and Georgia can't both win.. so soon we'll find out if losing the SEC championship is better than winning the Big12, winning the AAC or doing nothing (Notre Dame).

It's almost as if how good your opponents are matters too. Like if the PAC12 had more than one viable school for championships in the last 12 years they might have a leg to stand on, or if you compare how many bowl eligible teams there are from a conference. (PAC12 -6, ACC-4, SEC-13)

Is Texas A&M good? Or is it just this absurd circular argument of Alabama is good, Texas A&M beat Alabama so they must be good, Alabama had a tough schedule because it lost to Texas A&M which is good because it beat Alabama... I'm not arguing against SEC champion going to the championship game... I'm arguing against a loss being worth more than a win. Are you suggesting that Georgia and Alabama really should just rest their players this week because who wins doesn't really matter? If losing to the "best" is better than beating someone else, then the Washington Generals should be in the NBA finals every year.

As far as trying to goad me into another argument by calling out the Pac-12... no luck there Manta. Pac-12 champion is going to the Rose Bowl.. all is well here... As far as I'm concerned, the Pac-12, P5, NCAA is one team (you can guess which one) and other teams are the same... and then stanfurd. 11-0 Georgia and 1-11 UMass are the same team to me (as evidenced by the number of minutes of either team I've watched).

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SEC stands for “‘Shenanigans!’, Explains Carlbear”

*Legion* wrote:

SEC stands for “‘Shenanigans!’, Explains Carlbear”

not the "Sh" word I'd use but we'll go with it

UVa's Bronco Mendenhall is out after the bowl game. The spin is that he's resigning. (He doesn't have a job lined up.) But even a who-gives-a-sh!t-about-football school like Virginia can't overlook the fact that Bronco has only two winning seasons in six years (could be three if they win the bowl game which they won't).

But after calling this play (go to the 22:40 mark) against Va Tech, I'm surprised UVa didn't lock ol' Bronco out of the locker room Saturday.

Here's the deal: VT coughs up a fumble with about 3 minutes left and is up by only 5. UVA is driving, and the VT defense looks worn out. It's 3rd and 7 on the VT 9 yard line, and the UVa QB is arguably one of the better QBs in the country. (Only one guy has thrown for more yards.)

Ball is snapped ... the QB rolls right ... and turns around to his left and THROWS A BACKWARD PASS TO HIS LEFT TACKLE. I'm not sure I've ever laughed so hard at a college football play because it might have been the stupidest play I've ever seen.

PS: The next play was a slant into double coverage. Ball is deflected. Ball game. Va Tech wins the Commonwealth Cup for the 17th time in 18 years.

For at least the last week I've been wondering if Carlbear has reached a new level of the bit that he's arguably been doing for years, or if the SEC etc., or possibly the Alliance canceling playoff expansion, has finally broken his brain. I could be convinced of either.

I've been saying it for years - in a limited playoff system, if you can't win your conference you don't deserve to win the championship no matter how good of a team you are.

Also, I support your SEC rants Carlbear. I enjoy reading them!

karmajay wrote:

I've been saying it for years - in a limited playoff system, if you can't win your conference you don't deserve to win the championship no matter how good of a team you are.

Also, I support your SEC rants Carlbear. I enjoy reading them! :)

So, Notre Dame shouldn't be able to go the the CFP no matter what then?

No, they should join a conference like everyone else if they want to play in the playoffs. I always look at it like the conference championships are play-in games, if you lose it then you should be out of the playoffs. Hopefully they will expand soon at get to 8 teams, 5 P5 conference champions, 3 at large where at least 1 of the at large is the highest ranked non P5 team. Than we can stop arguing about if 2 SEC teams should get into the 4 team playoff and instead argue if 2 SEC teams should be in the 8 team playoff.

pizzaddict wrote:

No, they should join a conference like everyone else if they want to play in the playoffs.

What, you mean like what they've done with literally every other sport the college plays?

Absolutely no discussion of college football postseason needs to revolve around, "bUt WhAt AbOuT nOtRe DaMe'S sPeCiAl SnOwFlAkE sTaTuS?"

karmajay wrote:

I've been saying it for years - in a limited playoff system, if you can't win your conference you don't deserve to win the championship no matter how good of a team you are.

If Utah wins the PAC, they'll have 3 losses. They should be in over a one-loss Georgia? Many of the other potential conference champs currently have two losses, as well.

I think you have it backwards: In a four-team playoff, it's important to take a team's entire schedule into account. As we expand the playoffs, we can carve out spots specifically for conference champions - and that's exactly what they're doing.

Fedaykin98 wrote:
karmajay wrote:

I've been saying it for years - in a limited playoff system, if you can't win your conference you don't deserve to win the championship no matter how good of a team you are.

If Utah wins the PAC, they'll have 3 losses. They should be in over a one-loss Georgia? Many of the other potential conference champs currently have two losses, as well.

I think you have it backwards: In a four-team playoff, it's important to take a team's entire schedule into account. As we expand the playoffs, we can carve out spots specifically for conference champions - and that's exactly what they're doing.

Utah would be a conference champion, and that trumps all!

So of course put them over a one loss Georgia or two loss BYU!

While BYU beat Utah (and pretty much everyone in the Pac-12) they are not in a conference this year, so sorry BYU, Utah it is.

pizzaddict wrote:

No, they should join a conference like everyone else if they want to play in the playoffs. I always look at it like the conference championships are play-in games, if you lose it then you should be out of the playoffs. Hopefully they will expand soon at get to 8 teams, 5 P5 conference champions, 3 at large where at least 1 of the at large is the highest ranked non P5 team. Than we can stop arguing about if 2 SEC teams should get into the 4 team playoff and instead argue if 2 6SEC teams should be in the 8 team playoff.

FTFY