NFL 2021: The Week 11 thread

They are actually trying to do Joe Millionaire again in 2021, where now people will probably be rooting for the bachelorettes to beat the stuffing out of him when he comes clean about not being a millionaire.

Pink Stripes wrote:
EvilDead wrote:

What's with all the McCorkle hate (my new favorite name). McCorkle might look a bit clumsy, and is a bit sluggish avoiding tackles, has an everyman's physique, but he put up a respectable 13 before the half!

He plays for the Patriots.

Yeah but how can anyone hate someone named McCorkle?

Folk missed that PAT on purpose because 28 -3 = 25.

McCorkle is now 2-0 in the Superdome since the Falcons last won a game there. He won the SEC Championship last year, and now tonight. The Falcons have won three normal away games and a game in London, but are winless at home this year.

Also, 28-3.

EvilDead wrote:

What's with all the McCorkle hate (my new favorite name). McCorkle might look a bit clumsy, and is a bit sluggish avoiding tackles, has an everyman's physique, but he put up a respectable 13 before the half!

I had no feelings toward him one way or the other until he tried to rip Brian Burns's foot off his leg a couple of weeks ago and the NFL said, Eh, it's all good. At the very least it's a holding penalty because Burns was trying to get to the ball and McCorkle was just being a childish little @#$%^!*%@!!

And then last night Troy Aikman wondered why Bill Belichick might consider retiring soon (and I'm paraphrasing) when he has the next franchise QB for the next 18 or 20 years. C'mon. I know what I see out there, and I don't need some terminally concussed color guy telling me not to believe my lyin' eyes.

McCorkle at this point is a below-average QB (you see the INT he floated right to AJ Terrell last night? Woof ) in a good offensive system who's backed up by a good defense and the best coach of all time. He throws a very accurate short ball and usually makes good to very good decisions when he is called on to pass. But the Patriots have the training wheels on this offense -- they're running the ball a little more than they're throwing it, which is not the norm in today's NFL -- and McCorkle is for all intents and purposes a game manager.

He might grow into a good QB. Hell, he might turn out to be great. But for now he's a rookie and most of the time he plays like one.

He's also a sociopath. Happy hunting season, boys!

TL,DR: Don't believe the McCorkle hype just yet. Also, I need to root against somebody, and I've found my latest target.

EvilDead wrote:

What's with all the McCorkle hate (my new favorite name). McCorkle might look a bit clumsy, and is a bit sluggish avoiding tackles, has an everyman's physique, but he put up a respectable 13 before the half!

It's less about Mac himself, and more about the media reaction to his level of play.

It's that overreacting-to-a-QB-having-success-because-he's-a-rookie thing. Vince Young Syndrome.

Mac is doing well, and the Patriots have done extremely well with scheming within his current ability set.

But when you get down to it, he's a QB that's playing a Jimmy Garoppolo style of QB and the media talks about it like he's making Peyton Manning throws.

No, no, he's clearly the best QB of this class, and there are fourteen teams that are going to deeply regret passing on him, particularly the ones who picked at #1 and #3.

Enix wrote:

C'mon. I know what I see out there, and I don't need some terminally concussed color guy telling me not to believe my lyin' eyes.

And yet, you think he tried to rip Brian Burns' foot off.

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I've been cheering against Aikman since I started watching football. So easy to disagree with him

Pink Stripes wrote:
Enix wrote:

C'mon. I know what I see out there, and I don't need some terminally concussed color guy telling me not to believe my lyin' eyes.

And yet, you think he tried to rip Brian Burns' foot off.

Enix wrote:

C'mon. I know what I see out there.

MilkmanDanimal wrote:

No, no, he's clearly the best QB of this class, and there are fourteen teams that are going to deeply regret passing on him, particularly the ones who picked at #1 and #3.

I think the team that picked #3 regrets everything. If they had the option they might just trade into being a lacross team or something and getting a full reset.

When the press posts over-effusive stories about Mac, this is what I see:

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And it's not like it's even Mac's fault. If he played west of the Hudson, there'd be a whole lot less noise.

I can see the point that you're making, and it's a fair point, but how dare you compare Mac Jones with Mark Sanchez? I will remember this.

You’re right, The Sanchise is much more dreamy.

Now we'll be anticipating what might happen if Mac Jones gets too close to the posterior of one of his linemen.

Pink Stripes wrote:

I can see the point that you're making, and it's a fair point, but how dare you compare Mac Jones with Mark Sanchez? I will remember this.

Again, it's less about Mac than the media response.

Because you know who else this happened with? Tom Brady.

The way the media portrayed Tom Brady in 2002, 2003, was as a quarterback far above where he actually was at that point. Winning the Super Bowl, of course, blew away any critical look at his level of play.

The difference, of course, is that he kept improving and never really hit a ceiling, so he eventually caught up with the reputation and surpassed it.

But Tom Brady in 2002 isn't a QB who scared you, even though he won the Super Bowl the previous year. He threw 601 attempts - 4th most in the league, and the most in his career until 2011 - and threw for only 3764 yards. He threw for 6.3 yards per attempt, which put him 23rd, right below Tim Couch and 5 spots below Patrick Ramsey. (If he threw for that total this season, he would rank 33rd, tied with Jared Goff, and one spot above... you know what, it's not important).

In 2005? The guy who threw for 4110 yards on 530 attempts? That guy scared you. That QB looked like the guy that the hype claimed he was a few years earlier.

What Mac is right now and what Mac could be in 5 years may be very different, and being overhyped now doesn't mean he won't eventually reach that level the way Brady did. But of course, it's just as possible for him to hit a ceiling early like the Sanchize.

Enix wrote:
Pink Stripes wrote:
Enix wrote:

C'mon. I know what I see out there, and I don't need some terminally concussed color guy telling me not to believe my lyin' eyes.

And yet, you think he tried to rip Brian Burns' foot off.

Enix wrote:

C'mon. I know what I see out there.

I gotta say that there's clear homerism at play if you think Mac didn't go too far on that tackle.

I guess its the national media because the local media certainly isn't hyping him. The talking points are that he is doing his job and keeping mistakes to a minimum while the D has been taking care of the rest (recently). The foot grab seemed like a amateur hour reaction to getting slammed and probably more inexperience (lost himself in the moment) than character. As far as I know he doesn't have a history of stuff like that.

Anyways I was more or less joking about the McCorkle hate. It's football, he plays on the Pats, and haters gonna hate!

I think Mac definitely made a mistake by holding on to Burns' foot and he should know better. I also think Burns overplayed it by doing a barrel roll soccer-style dive and then whining about it to the media. And then, what EvilDead said in his last sentence.

People didn't like him before the Pats drafted him. You guys are playing the role of Pats fans perfectly by making it all about you. *eyeroll*

All of those years I rooted for the Patriots just because it made everybody else so unhappy when they won; goddamn it, I'm going to have to pick that up again, aren't I?

Would the Jaguars winning make everyone unhappy? Don't know, we haven't tried it yet!

garion333 wrote:

People didn't like him before the Pats drafted him. You guys are playing the role of Pats fans perfectly by making it all about you. *eyeroll*

I honestly didn't know that if it's true. I don't follow college football and he just seems like a doofus during the press conferences.

*Legion* wrote:

Would the Jaguars winning make everyone unhappy? Don't know, we haven't tried it yet!

That just wouldn't feel right. A sign of a coming apocalypse or something..

EvilDead wrote:
garion333 wrote:

People didn't like him before the Pats drafted him. You guys are playing the role of Pats fans perfectly by making it all about you. *eyeroll*

I honestly didn't know that if it's true. I don't follow college football and he just seems like a doofus during the press conferences.

I meant people around here didn't like him. I don't follow much football outside of here and fantasy/analytics sites and pay zero attention to college football outside of draft season.

That said, dadbod + Alabama QB + McCorkle + privileged upbringing kinda created a perfect storm for 2021's punching bag. I mean, he just looks so damn much like a modern version of Trump. Lol

Lamar Jackson questionable with what sounds like the covids.

Man, word on Lamar is he's still up in the air. And it's non-Covid, supposedly. I believe the team would have to tell if it's Covid or not, so...

Also, Jared Goff not playing. The Lions will be fun to watch today!

Paleocon wrote:

Lamar Jackson questionable with what sounds like the covids.

Isn't this like the eighth time he's had it?

Considering he just went to Louisville Saturday for number retirement, seems like someone back home got him sick. Dammit y'all.

Although could have just been a typical UK fan. Whole Louisville team got food poisoning a few years ago at game in Lexington

Lamar officially inactive. Dammit