The big "How do I choose an HDTV?" thread.

That’s a serious leap in picture quality and performance…OLED is the best

El-Producto wrote:

I just bought an LG C1 55. Upgrading from a 15 year old Toshiba LCD.

Oh My God.

I am fortunate to own PS5 and Series X and this thing is insane. It's like a video card upgrade for my next gen consoles, what a beautiful piece of tech.

If you are at all on the fence, they've had them on sale recently and wouldn't hesitate in the least to recommend it.

I'm still very happy with my C1 that I got right before football season. One underrated feature is the ability to have the Xbox turn it on and off, which my previous TV wouldn't do.

Speaking of C1s, is there a way to avoid it popping up those menu tiles at the bottom of the screen when I turn it on? They go away after a couple seconds, but I'd rather they not pop up at all.

Fedaykin98 wrote:
El-Producto wrote:

I just bought an LG C1 55. Upgrading from a 15 year old Toshiba LCD.

Oh My God.

I am fortunate to own PS5 and Series X and this thing is insane. It's like a video card upgrade for my next gen consoles, what a beautiful piece of tech.

If you are at all on the fence, they've had them on sale recently and wouldn't hesitate in the least to recommend it.

I'm still very happy with my C1 that I got right before football season. One underrated feature is the ability to have the Xbox turn it on and off, which my previous TV wouldn't do.

Speaking of C1s, is there a way to avoid it popping up those menu tiles at the bottom of the screen when I turn it on? They go away after a couple seconds, but I'd rather they not pop up at all.

I just helped my dad set up a new 2021 C1 65" OLED, upgrading from a 2008 1080p Samsung 55" LCD. I can confirm, it's a glorious set. One of the first things we did with it was fire up the YouTube app and watch some of the "8k" nature videos.

This may have been asked before but I'm a filthy skimmer so...

I'm thinking of getting something to wall mount behind my desk instead of my current ultra-wide Asus. I'm very happy with the Asus - 120Hz, 3440x1440, g-sync - but my eyes are making the geometry of my setup tough. Like old farts everywhere, my short-range vision is deteriorating and had got to the point that my monitor is too close for no reading glasses and yet just far enough away that my reading glasses aren't quite right. While I could get weaker readers, I guess, some simple experimentation tells me that a wall mounted screen behind my desk will work great for me without readers.

Going from 35" eye-to-screen to 53" eye-to-screen tells me that I'll want a 55" diag for 21:9 or 50" for 16:9.

So many questions:

- has anyone solved this "old-eye" problem the same way?
- recommendations for a TV or Monitor?
- should I be concerned about HDMI versions?

Moggy wrote:

This may have been asked before but I'm a filthy skimmer so...

I'm thinking of getting something to wall mount behind my desk instead of my current ultra-wide Asus. I'm very happy with the Asus - 120Hz, 3440x1440, g-sync - but my eyes are making the geometry of my setup tough. Like old farts everywhere, my short-range vision is deteriorating and had got to the point that my monitor is too close for no reading glasses and yet just far enough away that my reading glasses aren't quite right. While I could get weaker readers, I guess, some simple experimentation tells me that a wall mounted screen behind my desk will work great for me without readers.

Going from 35" eye-to-screen to 53" eye-to-screen tells me that I'll want a 55" diag for 21:9 or 50" for 16:9.

So many questions:

- has anyone solved this "old-eye" problem the same way?
- recommendations for a TV or Monitor?
- should I be concerned about HDMI versions?

I wall mounted a 48" LG OLED from a year ago and love that setup as a monitor. You want to get the bottom as low as you can to the desk level to avoid neck strain. I don't maximize internet browsers on a screen that size. It's basically like having 4 1080p monitors all connected. Super cool.

Edit: Here is a post of my 48" for scale: https://www.gamerswithjobs.com/node/...

Thin_J wrote:

None of the Elite Screens models I have in any form of consideration use glue anywhere in their construction, except for sticking the black felt covering over the frame. Not sure I even understand where glue could be used on any of them to be honest.

Not sure how they build their fixed screens but here is one spot they use glue on some models:

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They also sometimes attach the screen to the roller with glue as well. That is not easily fixable, but the one in the top image is thankfully. I used to take them down and lay them out and then apply new glue and use something to weigh them down until I had a brilliant idea one day: magnets!

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Glued up with Gorilla Glue (you want something that has a bit of flex to it when it hardens) and held in place with some neodymium magnets for the weekend. I will come in Monday morning and remove the magnets and I will have saved the college like $500 by not having to replace this screen

Interesting!

For what it's worth the fixed screens I looked at use springs hooking directly into the material that latch onto the inside of the frame, there's no pole or anything like that for it to wrap around requiring any stitching or glue.

Thin_J wrote:

Interesting!

For what it's worth the fixed screens I looked at use springs hooking directly into the material that latch onto the inside of the frame, there's no pole or anything like that for it to wrap around requiring any stitching or glue.

That is what is known as a tensioned screen and it is the way to go. My motorized screens are tensioned, but I only have them in the new building because they are very expensive. We spent almost a million dollars on the AV for our new building (16 classrooms, 2 conference rooms, and 1 large lecture hall that cost about a quarter of a million dollars on its own). All told I am responsible for the AV in about 70 classrooms and conference rooms, 1 large lecture hall, and 1 movie theater/lecture hall now (I used to be responsible for way more than that, but I had a team of people under me then) so I get to see a lot of different gear and brands. If anyone is ever looking to put together an AV system with an integrated control processor (Extron) that is what I get paid to build, program, and maintain.

Actually in the movie theater room we have like a 30 foot screen painted on the wall because even paying for some of the best projector screen paint you can get plus special brushes and primer was cheaper than getting a screen that size

@#$%@$!!!!

Bought a Vizio P-series four years ago. Dark room, no windows, no concerns with viewing angle, so all of the potential drawbacks for that model didn't really matter to me. The drawback that does matter? Well, yesterday, the screen suddenly froze with purple lines and input changes didn't help; when I powered it off and turned it on again, it kept rebooting. After sitting for a while, went back to normal. Then again, last night, same thing. Per brief internet research, it's dying, so I have to buy another stupid TV. This one is fine. Or was.

Ah, well, guess it's time to get something a little early for Christmas. Off to rtings I go . . .

Our LG OLED has suddenly developed some widespread burn-in, so we're starting to keep an eye out for what else is out there. It seems like QLED's are the new hotness, and promise not to have burn-in?

beanman101283 wrote:

Our LG OLED has suddenly developed some widespread burn-in, so we're starting to keep an eye out for what else is out there. It seems like QLED's are the new hotness, and promise not to have burn-in?

Still not as nice as OLED though. QLED is just another revision of the same LED lit LCD display we have had for a very long time now adding a layer of quantum dot film to help reduce bloom which also lets them use more powerful LEDs to achieve a higher peak brightness level than OLED, but OLED still has better blacks and contrast.

microLED is the next big thing where like OLED each pixel will be emitting it's own light powerfully enough that no backlight is needed. There are a few models out there that costs a small fortune and start in the range of 80 inches and go up from there. Mostly being used for large commercial displays right now. It is basically all the benefits of OLED with none of the draw backs.

All this said a QLED TV is not a bad choice right now. It will probably be another 4 to 5 years before we start to see microLED TVs in even high end consumer price ranges and you may be able to get more usable hours out of a QLED TV than an OLED if you are seeing burn in on the one you currently have.

Thanks Rykin.

Ended up getting this 65" TCL from Best Buy today, and price matched against Amazon. This being the third TV we've bought in the last few years, the amount I'm willing to spend for something that lasts under 5 years has gone down quite a bit.

beanman101283 wrote:

Our LG OLED has suddenly developed some widespread burn-in, so we're starting to keep an eye out for what else is out there. It seems like QLED's are the new hotness, and promise not to have burn-in?

What's the model? I have a B6 and a C8. No burn-in issues so far.

It's the B6. Got it in May 2018.

I like my QLED Q90T. It's in a room with a lot of sun exposure and I think the greater brightness compared to OLED is necessary there. I do see some blooming in some situations, but not enough to really bother me.

I picked up an LG C1 77", showed up yesterday. I figured my last cheaper TV died, and I haven't bought myself something nice in ages, so, well, there you go. Fired up Forza Horizon for the first time and good freaking lord, the image quality is mind-boggling.

https://www.flatpanelshd.com/news.ph...

Looks like we will finally get the 42” OLED from LG in 2022. That should be the perfect gaming “monitor”.

Ok guys. I need a new 75-77" TV for my new house fireplace mantel. This will be a center piece TV, so budget has some room but I dont want to spend crazy money.

LG OLED EVO for the thinnest

But I just saw

LG QNED MiniLED 99 Series

I like my 77" LG OLED. I would recommend mounting the TV somewhere at eye level to avoid years of neck strain.

I ended up buying a Hisense 55" U7G for $600. I know the U8G is only $150 more but... I was having trouble justifying a new purchase to begin with. Let alone the $1200 for an LG C1 OLED even though that TV looks fantastic.

I've been using the same Vizio 50" 1080p TV for the past six years, and I paid about $500 for that new. So maybe this'll hit the same budget sweet spot for me. I've mostly been satisfied with the Vizio, although recently it's been fritzing now and then, making me think it might be on its last legs.

Most of my Plex library is 720p/1080p, but I did recently snag a used Xbox Series X from Gamestop so I figure that might be a nice improvement. I don't plan on upgrading all my Blu-Ray discs to 4K anytime soon, so if it really seems like I don't need the U7G I might take advantage of Hisense's 100-day guarantee policy and return it.

I also bought one of those TV tuning Blu-Rays (Disney WOW: World of Wonder). Do any of y'all have experience with those things? Setting up a 4K TV seems more complicated than my old Vizio in terms of settings and variance in picture quality. And paying someone to calibrate it seems like overkill given it's a budget purchase.

ccoates wrote:

Let alone the $1200 for an LG C1 OLED even though that TV looks fantastic.

So I ended up getting one of these for a wall-mounted monitor for my PC. Very good picture. It was an "opportunity purchase" when the wife and I went to CostCo last week. One of my goals in going to the bigger screen was to avoid the need for reading glasses while on the computer. I'm happy to report that has proven to be the case

Moggy wrote:
ccoates wrote:

Let alone the $1200 for an LG C1 OLED even though that TV looks fantastic.

So I ended up getting one of these for a wall-mounted monitor for my PC. Very good picture. It was an "opportunity purchase" when the wife and I went to CostCo last week. One of my goals in going to the bigger screen was to avoid the need for reading glasses while on the computer. I'm happy to report that has proven to be the case

Oh wow, the 48" one? What's it like having that giant of a monitor? Do you split the workflows as if they're 2-3 monitors across?

I'm trying to picture a gigantic spreadsheet or game window.

ccoates wrote:
Moggy wrote:
ccoates wrote:

Let alone the $1200 for an LG C1 OLED even though that TV looks fantastic.

So I ended up getting one of these for a wall-mounted monitor for my PC. Very good picture. It was an "opportunity purchase" when the wife and I went to CostCo last week. One of my goals in going to the bigger screen was to avoid the need for reading glasses while on the computer. I'm happy to report that has proven to be the case

Oh wow, the 48" one? What's it like having that giant of a monitor? Do you split the workflows as if they're 2-3 monitors across?

I'm trying to picture a gigantic spreadsheet or game window.

55"

I'm sat 4' away from it, so it fills my vision without going past it. Once I've tidied my desk, I'll post up a picture.

ccoates wrote:

I ended up buying a Hisense 55" U7G for $600. I know the U8G is only $150 more but... I was having trouble justifying a new purchase to begin with. Let alone the $1200 for an LG C1 OLED even though that TV looks fantastic.

I snagged a Hisense U8G 65” for $998 at Amazon on Monday, with delivery and unpacking (allows instant returns, and was free). Excited to see my Series X on this, as I’m jumping from a 49” Sony Brava X800D (yes, that’s the actual model lol) and I am 9 to 10ft away usually. With 120fps support on two inputs, freesync and G-Sync compatibility, and VRR, it is a good tech upgrade alongside the size bump. Now to wait patiently for it to arrive on the 7th.

ccoates wrote:

I also bought one of those TV tuning Blu-Rays (Disney WOW: World of Wonder). Do any of y'all have experience with those things? Setting up a 4K TV seems more complicated than my old Vizio in terms of settings and variance in picture quality. And paying someone to calibrate it seems like overkill given it's a budget purchase.

For initial settings, I’ll be using the ones that RTings has supplied for the U8G. Looks like they also have a page for the U6G. Do be wary that the video at the top of those pages is for the U9G, which covers a lot of shared setup, but the articles included model-focused settings.

My dad got the LG 65" C1 (OLED) a few weeks ago, and then a Sony UltraHD BluRay player and a few movies to go along with it. We watched The Martian and Interstellar, both of which were great movies but surprisingly didn't quite showcase 4k all that well. Then we watched The Hobbit (Extended Cut) and Oh My! that was absolutely stunning, from beginning to end. I'm excited to watch the LOTR movies next.

Moggy wrote:
ccoates wrote:
Moggy wrote:
ccoates wrote:

Let alone the $1200 for an LG C1 OLED even though that TV looks fantastic.

So I ended up getting one of these for a wall-mounted monitor for my PC. Very good picture. It was an "opportunity purchase" when the wife and I went to CostCo last week. One of my goals in going to the bigger screen was to avoid the need for reading glasses while on the computer. I'm happy to report that has proven to be the case

Oh wow, the 48" one? What's it like having that giant of a monitor? Do you split the workflows as if they're 2-3 monitors across?

I'm trying to picture a gigantic spreadsheet or game window.

55"

I'm sat 4' away from it, so it fills my vision without going past it. Once I've tidied my desk, I'll post up a picture.

Picture of the monitor. It's been working really well. The only downside is I have another LG in the room and both TV remotes turn both TVs on and off. While you can pair the remotes for the other functions, on/off isn't paired. Workable but irritating.

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trueheart78 wrote:
ccoates wrote:

I ended up buying a Hisense 55" U7G for $600. I know the U8G is only $150 more but... I was having trouble justifying a new purchase to begin with. Let alone the $1200 for an LG C1 OLED even though that TV looks fantastic.

I snagged a Hisense U8G 65” for $998 at Amazon on Monday, with delivery and unpacking (allows instant returns, and was free). Excited to see my Series X on this, as I’m jumping from a 49” Sony Brava X800D (yes, that’s the actual model lol) and I am 9 to 10ft away usually. With 120fps support on two inputs, freesync and G-Sync compatibility, and VRR, it is a good tech upgrade alongside the size bump. Now to wait patiently for it to arrive on the 7th.

My Hisense U8G 65" tv showed up today, and wow. Just... wow. I don't miss my old set at all.

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trueheart78 wrote:
trueheart78 wrote:
ccoates wrote:

I ended up buying a Hisense 55" U7G for $600. I know the U8G is only $150 more but... I was having trouble justifying a new purchase to begin with. Let alone the $1200 for an LG C1 OLED even though that TV looks fantastic.

I snagged a Hisense U8G 65” for $998 at Amazon on Monday, with delivery and unpacking (allows instant returns, and was free). Excited to see my Series X on this, as I’m jumping from a 49” Sony Brava X800D (yes, that’s the actual model lol) and I am 9 to 10ft away usually. With 120fps support on two inputs, freesync and G-Sync compatibility, and VRR, it is a good tech upgrade alongside the size bump. Now to wait patiently for it to arrive on the 7th.

My Hisense U8G 65" tv showed up today, and wow. Just... wow. I don't miss my old set at all.

I'm having trouble getting my Xbox Series X to detect 120hz. Are you seeing the same thing? I've tried three different HDMI 2.1 cables.

Edit: I was misreading my PS5 settings, it's saying 60hz too. Not sure what else I can tweak/change in the TV or console settings.

I don't have any of the handful of 120hz capable of games handy, but it'd be nice to know it's capable of that in the future.

Edit: Edit: User error.

I swear I read that HDMI 1 was the eARC port and that HDMI 1 and 2 were the HDMI 2.1 ports. But... HDMI 3 is the eARC port and HDMI 3 and 4 are the HDMI 2.1 ports.

That seems counter-intuitive to me but now both consoles are detecting 120hz as supported!

I used the Disney World of Wonder calibration Blu-ray to adjust my U7G on the PS5. Even just doing the basic brightness/contrast ones you can see a difference.

What's weird is that on the Xbox Series X, the Blu-ray has no effect. As in no changes I make to the TV's settings seem to have any effect on the image. Adjusting the contrast or brightness seems to just change the overall picture brightness, which doesn't make any sense.

Maybe the XSX or the Blu-ray app from the Microsoft Store does some sort of automated adjustments behind the scenes? If I use the Xbox's built-in calibration from Settings the picture can be tuned as expected.

On the U7G you can tweak the settings per source, so that's what I'm doing for now, but it's really puzzling.

I'm going to try and rip some of the specific tests to video files so I can try them on the Shield to see if that works.

I watched an UHD Blu-ray last night and it definitely looked great once I disabled all the motion enhancement settings. I guess I fall under the not-a-fan category in terms of the "soap opera effect". But it didn't hit me with the same punch that upgrading to 1080p from standard/HD did. Looking forward to some 4k gaming, however.

I watch a lot of stuff on Plex, and all my movies are currently 720p and 1080p, so I'm re-ripping a few of my Blu-rays at 2160 to see if I can see much of a difference once the upscaling comes into play on the lower quality files.

Next I'm looking at upgrading my soundbar. My space isn't really setup for satellite speakers, so I'm looking at 3.1.2 soundbar/subwoofer combos. Won't be as immersive as true surround, but if I snag one with Atmos/DTS:X/everything support that's one less thing to convert myself (apparently they'll downmix to stereo automatically when a 7.1.2/5.1.2/etc. audio is played).

Some of the mid-level Samsung and LGs seem pretty reasonable, and you can find models like the Samsung HW-Q800T or HW-Q700A in the 400-ish range new and closer to $300 refurbished or used.

ccoates wrote:

Next I'm looking at upgrading my soundbar. My space isn't really setup for satellite speakers, so I'm looking at 3.1.2 soundbar/subwoofer combos. Won't be as immersive as true surround, but if I snag one with Atmos/DTS:X/everything support that's one less thing to convert myself (apparently they'll downmix to stereo automatically when a 7.1.2/5.1.2/etc. audio is played).

Some of the mid-level Samsung and LGs seem pretty reasonable, and you can find models like the Samsung HW-Q800T or HW-Q700A in the 400-ish range new and closer to $300 refurbished or used.

Cross post this in the Home Theater thread, there’s a goodjer who works for Sonos that has in the past been able to get people great discounts. I forget who they are, but a post there should get attention.