Nintendo Switch Catch-All 2.0

I've never cared about the franchise myself, but I can say with confidence that, yes, people are hyped for these, and in fact most people have never enjoyed the franchise as much as they had with Vice City and San Andreas.

Whether that feeling is warranted or not, I dunno. There's a lot of times I've gone back to a game thinking its sequels were just not as good and found that... no, no they actually did make a lot of improvements. But most people aren't intentionally trying to figure out why a game is fun or broken like I am. For example: going back and replaying RE4 2.5 times in a row this summer, I realized it's pretty darn great, but has a lot of issues. But most people I talk to either disagree or just don't care because to them it's the best the series ever has been and ever was and nothing will deviate them from that opinion.

So, do people want to play these? Yes. A lot of people do. Are the games going to hold up? Meh, who knows.

ccesarano wrote:

For example: going back and replaying RE4 2.5 times in a row this summer, I realized it's pretty darn great, but has a lot of issues.

The lack of a YT video on your channel about this makes me sad. Then again, RE 4 is the only game in the series I've enjoyed / played for more than an hour, but I did play through it almost 5 times between GCN and Wii and a couple frustrating hours on the PS2. Wii pointer controls ruined the other versions for me.

It was fantastic on the Wii. Only RE game I ever bought and beat. Friends or roommates had others on GameCube but I couldn't get into them.

I don't feel any compulsion to play any of the GTA campaigns, but if there's a decent sale I could see myself picking it up to drive a taxi around for a while.

With the OLED model I took the opportunity to finally test the Bluetooth audio. Seems great to me!

garion333 wrote:
Another major characteristic of Nintendo Switch is the Joy-Con controllers. A big part of the user experience comes from the Joy-Con, but were there any improvements?

Yamash*ta: Joy-Con controllers have lots of different features, so we've been continuing to make improvements that may not always be visible. Among others, the analog-stick parts have continuously been improved since launch, and we are still working on improvements.

The analog stick at first release cleared the Nintendo reliability test using the method of rotating the stick while continually applying a load to it, with the same criteria as the Wii U GamePad's analog stick.

As we have always been trying to improve it as well, we have investigated the Joy-Con controllers used by the customers and repeatedly improved the wear resistance and durability.

The parts of the Joy-Con analog sticks are not something that can be bought off the shelf but are specially designed, so we have undergone a lot of considerations to improve them. In addition, we improved the reliability test itself, and we have continued to make changes to improve durability and clear this new test.

When the effects of our improvements were confirmed, we promptly incorporated them into the Joy-Con controllers that are included with the console, Nintendo Switch Lite, and the ones sold individually, that were manufactured at that time. This involves the internal components of the Joy-Con, so you can't tell the improvements from the outside, but we use the new versions of the parts when we repair them. Also, similar continual improvements have been made for the Nintendo Switch Pro Controller as well.

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Yamash*ta: The degree of wear depends on factors like the combination of the materials and forms, so we continue to make improvements by researching which combinations are less likely to wear. We mentioned that the Joy-Con controller specifications hadn't changed in the sense that we didn't add new features such as new buttons, but the analog sticks in the Joy-Con controllers included with Nintendo Switch – OLED Model are the latest version with all the improvements. Needless to say, so are the analog sticks included in Nintendo Switch, Nintendo Switch Lite, separately sold Joy-Con controllers, and the Nintendo Switch Pro Controller that are currently being shipped

https://www.nintendo.com/whatsnew/de...

So, the parts they put in now are better at not wearing down?

My company manufactures specialty computer systems and I work pretty closely with the engineers. This sounds like engineering speak for a part redesign that will help mitigate but not solve the issue. Usually a slight change in materials, like plastic composition, or a an increase in part thickness. Its not feasible to change too much as repairs would no longer become possible and you would be replacing the whole mechanism each time. (We call it an engineering change order or ECO).

That being said it's probably the best bet, without a complete redesign or switching to metal parts, to keep end user costs the same with improved durability.

Edit: Sorry for the edits. My phone sucks at spell check.

I just wonder if that is why my Animal Crossing joycons have not drifted get after 18 months. Or if it's because I quit using them after 5 months for a Hori split pad and then a fixture S1 when that broke.

I play 90% handheld but 0% with joycons the last year. Only thing I've used them for is in that 10% of on TV play that is Ring Fit because I have to. Never use them for portable

The OLED is delightful but I am loathing the JoyCon. I decided to try some 3rd party joycon replacements that are not only much more comfortable, but that also have turbo mode available. Auto turbo (no need to hold a button down) is stupid fun. It trivialized the second boss fight in Metroid Dread, where all the tips were “spam attacks”. IMAGE(https://emojipedia-us.s3.dualstack.us-west-1.amazonaws.com/thumbs/240/emojidex/112/shortcake_1f370.png)

They aren’t perfect, but man are they so much more comfortable in handheld and in the attachment, vs even the Pro controller. I do see some reviews complaining about the sticks and the rumble not being HD, but I’ve used them for less than an hour.

As for charging, they can be charged via portable mode, or via a Y USB-A to double USB-C cable for each joy-pad.

Limitations worth noting:

  1. No infrared camera.
  2. Does not support NFC function.
  3. Does not support Amiibo and Ring-Con.
  4. Does not support HD vibration function, the vibration experience is different in some games.
trueheart78 wrote:

As for charging, they can be charged via portable mode, or via a Y USB-A to double USB-C cable for each joy-pad.

Thanks! Does "portable mode" mean they will charge with the switch when it is plugged in?

EvilDead wrote:
trueheart78 wrote:

As for charging, they can be charged via portable mode, or via a Y USB-A to double USB-C cable for each joy-pad.

Thanks! Does "portable mode" mean they will charge with the switch when it is plugged in?

They charge like joycons when attached to the screen/primary unit.

Spikeout was the first to take the plunge and review the Fixture S1 here. But I've plugged it several times in multiple threads since then. And others keep echoing the greatness

trueheart78 wrote:
EvilDead wrote:
trueheart78 wrote:

As for charging, they can be charged via portable mode, or via a Y USB-A to double USB-C cable for each joy-pad.

Thanks! Does "portable mode" mean they will charge with the switch when it is plugged in?

They charge like joycons when attached to the screen/primary unit.

OK, cool. Thanks!

EvilDead wrote:
trueheart78 wrote:
EvilDead wrote:
trueheart78 wrote:

As for charging, they can be charged via portable mode, or via a Y USB-A to double USB-C cable for each joy-pad.

Thanks! Does "portable mode" mean they will charge with the switch when it is plugged in?

They charge like joycons when attached to the screen/primary unit.

OK, cool. Thanks!

Also just realized they don’t remotely wake up the Switch when disconnected

I bought a set. I know my OIVO Switch Pro Controller won't fit considering that the OLED is slightly wider and the fit was already tight.

I really dislike using the default joycons for handheld play.

farley3k wrote:

I bought a set.

I'll be interested to hear your opinion. I will say, I'm surprised at how much I am not thrilled with the location of the screenshot button on them. My muscle memory needs retrained... IMAGE(https://emojipedia-us.s3.dualstack.us-west-1.amazonaws.com/thumbs/120/joypixels/291/flexed-biceps_medium-skin-tone_1f4aa-1f3fd_1f3fd.png)

farley3k wrote:

I really dislike using the default joycons for handheld play.

I've loathed that left Joycon stick for ages. IMAGE(https://emojipedia-us.s3.amazonaws.com/source/skype/289/angry-face_1f620.png)

Seeing that there were finally some interesting 3rd party versions that didn't give up rumble or motion control was very reassuring. I can live without Amiibo support, and not being able to turn it on remotely isn't a big issue for me (yet). Rumble, I would prefer, and motion controls, if possible, it'd be nice to keep them.

Oh, I also bought a Binbok set at the same time, as well. There are a few different versions, but I went with the slimmer ones that have been recently updated.

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They should be here tomorrow. I was quite happy when the joy-pad showed up as quick as it did.

My plan is to try both sets out and keep the ones I prefer, or send them both back and try something else altogether.

I bought those. They are good to great in some spots. They feel cheap and hollow.

They can have fits of disconnections in handheld mode.

But they have most of the features I want.

The motion control is fine. The turbo function is good. The LED ring is fine. The button presses are mushy. Vibration is okay.

It’s comfortable to hold and the sticks are great.

That sounds bad but they work well and are a lot cheaper than another set of JOYCONs.

Got the call today that my new switch was in. It is very pretty. And now I won't have to fight with my son over who gets to play on the switch.

It is very much an indulgence to about another one and not sell this one used but it will be wonderful to be able to both be playing and not have to debate on how much time each person gets anymore

farley3k wrote:

It is very much an indulgence to about another one and not sell this one used but it will be wonderful to be able to both be playing and not have to debate on how much time each person gets anymore

This is the way.

It's a good thing that the new kickstand is actually good, since the OLED doesn't fit in the Fixture S1. It's just a millimetre or two wide, but since there's no give in the material, it doesn't fit. What a bummer. Otherwise, what an awesome machine.

Selling a original Switch dock $40 and the two white joycons that come with the new OLED switch $50. They are things I don't need now that I have an OLED model. PM if your interested.

Oct 25 for Nintendo Online+.

Pricing announced as $50 for single and $80 for family. Animal Crossing DLC ($25 by itself) is bundled in. So that helps with the first year increase, especially if in family and get multiple copies of the DLC.

That's not a bad price for some quality games. It's not great, but it's acceptable.

Also the N64 and Genesis controllers are on sale at Nintendo web site. Go go go!

That is one heck of a price increase that I won't be buying for the Expansion Pack. Wowza.

Can you play the N64 games in handheld mode or with the Pro Controller? I assume you don’t need the original controller.

Yeah, of course. The original N64 and Genesis controllers up for sale are just for nostalgia purposes. You can play without them both docked and in handheld mode.

That introduces all sorts of questions by including AC DLC— do you keep it even if you unsubscribe after a year? Is it only accessible to the account that is subbed? For instance, my daughter has an account but I’ve kept her account off online, but if I get the DLC on my account through online+ does that mean her account won’t have it unless I add her to online + as well (or just buy the dlc outright)?

I’ve been buying and sharing a family plan for a while because it was only $15 more than a personal plan and offered a lot better cost-benefit for the price. I don’t know if I can say the same thing about $80 on first brush. That’s just a lot steeper, especially with the AC DLC unknowns. Hopefully there will be a good FAQ on that at some point before it launches.

Yeah I'll probably just use the N64 one for docked mode. I have my Fixture for handheld and it's not going to fit on that.

Djinn wrote:

Yeah, of course. The original N64 and Genesis controllers up for sale are just for nostalgia purposes. You can play without them both docked and in handheld mode.

I’m not sure about “of course”. They’re making it a paid add-on. It’s fair to ask with Nintendo.

Also, please try not to be a jerk right now. I’m going through a tough time. I just changed my password after intentionally losing it. I came back mostly so I could get some support for depression. Please don’t make me regret that.