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hbi2k wrote:

Has he, personally, been denouncing and vilifying homosexuality / hookup apps?

Burrill's the equivalent of the CEO of the most powerful organization in the American Catholic church, which as a very clear and well-defined position on homosexuality:

Catechism of the Catholic Church wrote:

Basing itself on Sacred Scripture, which presents homosexual acts as acts of grave depravity, tradition has always declared that "homosexual acts are intrinsically disordered." They are contrary to the natural law. They close the sexual act to the gift of life. They do not proceed from a genuine affective and sexual complementarity. Under no circumstances can they be approved.

They have a bit more of the "hate the sin, not the sinner" attitude on homosexuality than, say, evangelicals, but being gay is still a big no-no according to the Church.

The Church's 'solution' to someone being gay is that they remain celibate their entire lives.

Ironically Burrill also took a vow of chastity when he became a priest making his behavior a sort of double whammy of hypocrisy for himself and example eleventy billion of how the Church's forbidding clergy and consecrated religious from having sex is a truly stupid and f*cked up thing that hasn't worked since it became law in the 11th century.

I made a new thread so as not to derail this one.

New thread discussing religion & politics.

Taking my conversation with OG_slinger to the new thread.

hbi2k wrote:

the "media project" that put his private sh*t on blast

It's not like they gave out his Grindr handle.

(nsfw)

Spoiler:

Semenarian ?

PapalBull ?

Cumyounion ?

Mississippi is aiming to increase just how horrible they are…

(CNN)Mississippi's attorney general told the Supreme Court on Thursday that Roe v. Wade was "egregiously wrong" and should be overturned as she urged the justices to allow a controversial law that bars most abortions after 15 weeks to go into effect.

"The conclusion that abortion is a constitutional right has no basis in text, structure, history, or tradition" state Attorney General Lynn Fitch told the justices in a new brief, launching the opening salvo in the most important abortion-related dispute the court has heard in decades.

Oral arguments will likely be heard in the late fall or early winter with a decision expected by next June in advance of the midterm elections.

Two things of interest.

1: The AG’s last name (Fitch) conveniently rhymes with another word, and it’s not “evil f*cking devil spawn woman” (although I think that’s applicable).

2: Since this is on the docket for next year, that means this is certainly going to be a driver for midterm elections.

So when Brett Kavanaugh was selected as a nominee to the Supreme Court, the FBI set up a tip line for people to give them information as part of their background investigation.

Due to a (two-year old) request from Senate Democrats, in which they were seeking more information on how the investigation was handled, the FBI has finally released the number of tips that they recieved.

It was more than 4,500.

And, of course, there's plenty more to the story, like this gem:

The Article wrote:

A Democratic Senate staffer affiliated with Judiciary Committee acknowledged that the entire universe of tips was provided to senators at the time but that until the letter from the FBI last month, the senators were unaware that the FBI had engaged in a process to determine which tips were relevant. The staffer said that instead of providing the Senate with the FBI's analysis of the relevant tips, the White House sent all the tips to the senators who were only able to read them in a secure room without the benefit of taking notes.

Keldar wrote:

So when Brett Kavanaugh was selected as a nominee to the Supreme Court, the FBI set up a tip line for people to give them information as part of their background investigation.

Due to a (two-year old) request from Senate Democrats, in which they were seeking more information on how the investigation was handled, the FBI has finally released the number of tips that they recieved.

It was more than 4,500.

And, of course, there's plenty more to the story, like this gem:

The Article wrote:

A Democratic Senate staffer affiliated with Judiciary Committee acknowledged that the entire universe of tips was provided to senators at the time but that until the letter from the FBI last month, the senators were unaware that the FBI had engaged in a process to determine which tips were relevant. The staffer said that instead of providing the Senate with the FBI's analysis of the relevant tips, the White House sent all the tips to the senators who were only able to read them in a secure room without the benefit of taking notes.

I remember the the whole "secure location" bullsh*t during the confirmation hearings.

So now that makes 2 conservative SCOTUS judges that have committed some sort of sexual harassment and been confirmed. While this "new" news about Kavanaugh is appalling, I'm afraid the train has already left the station. There's no conceivable way to remove Kavanaugh until he dies or retires so I have been trying to figure out what the angle is on reporting this story. For the record: I fully believe that Kavanaugh is guilty of what he was accused of, especially after how he presented himself during his confirmation. My only hope is that history eventually reflects how he was a horrible pick and a horrible person.

Or better yet, that he has reflected on his past and become a better person.

Wish for that in one hand....

I still want to know who bought Kavanaugh because that man's financial disclosure forms made absolutely no sense.

There's simply no way a circuit court judge making $220k could simultaneously buy a house worth $1.2 million (which touching any cash in the bank), send their kid to a pricey private school, join a country club where the buy-in is close to $100k, and float a minimum of a third of his annual salary buying baseball tickets for his friends without outside help.

OG_slinger wrote:

I still want to know who bought Kavanaugh because that man's financial disclosure forms made absolutely no sense.

There's simply no way a circuit court judge making $220k could simultaneously buy a house worth $1.2 million (which touching any cash in the bank), send their kid to a pricey private school, join a country club where the buy-in is close to $100k, and float a minimum of a third of his annual salary buying baseball tickets for his friends without outside help.

The rich aren't rich because of their salaries.

He had $27k in the bank, no securities, and $460k in a retirement account for federal employees according to his financial disclosure form. He wasn't rich. Nor was his wife who's a town manager for Chevy Chase Section Five.

OG_slinger wrote:

I still want to know who bought Kavanaugh because that man's financial disclosure forms made absolutely no sense.

There's simply no way a circuit court judge making $220k could simultaneously buy a house worth $1.2 million (which touching any cash in the bank), send their kid to a pricey private school, join a country club where the buy-in is close to $100k, and float a minimum of a third of his annual salary buying baseball tickets for his friends without outside help.

Maybe it's just like all those other "how they did it" stories and his rich family members just bought the house (and everything else) for him!

We just need to stop the steal. The wealthy are stealing the country from us with both legal and illegal bribes.

Wealthy hedge fund manager, puppet of billionaires, fake poor person, and all around clown JD Vance has done a remarkable job humiliating himself and his family in his desparate bid to publicly fellate Donald Trump. But that's not the worst of Vance's descent into moral failure:

The Hill wrote:

Vance said that the culture war is a “class war” against middle and working class Americans, and also claimed that it's an economic war against conservatives.

Vance said in a “pure, raw cynical political claim" that conservatives “have lost every single major cultural institution in this country.”

“Accept that, think about it. Big finance, Big tech, Wall Street, the biggest corporations, the universities, the media and the government...There is not a single institution in this country that conservatives currently control, but there is one of them, just one, that we might have a chance of actually controlling in the future and that's the constitutional republic that our founders gave us,” Vance said.

“My argument is that we need to fight woke capital, woke corporations and the governments that enable them, because we can't win anywhere else,” he continued.

Source.

In saying the quiet part out loud -- the part I bolded is literally "fascism is the only defense against leftism" --Vance acknowledges that conservative/reactionary values are obsolete and antiquated, and that if he truly believed in the free market of ideas then he would abandon his own principles just as America is currently doing. However, Vance is a liar and a snake; like most Republicans, he cares more about propping up his dying ideals than he does the good of the nation. I no longer believe that Axis sympathizers like him are "sacrificing their morality to fascism" in order to protect their culture. Rather, it's clear that fascism is their culture. They are, by nature, antidemocratic and the limits that even the corrupt American corporatist oligarchy posing as a republic sets on them are too much to endure.

And like all fascists, he doesn't think much of people who aren't popping out babies:

n his speech, Vance also took aim at the Democratic Party, saying that it had “become controlled by people who don’t have children.” He also claimed that politicians running the country do not have a “personal indirect stake” in improving it because they do not have children.

“And why is this just a normal fact of American life, that the leaders of our country should be people who don't have a personal indirect stake in it via their own offspring, via their own children and grandchildren,” Vance asked, noting that he was not referring to people who are unable to have children.

He noted that potential future presidential candidates in the Democratic Party, including Vice President Kamala Harris, Transportation Secretary Pete Buttigieg, Sen. Cory Booker (D-N.J.) and Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D-N.Y.), all do not have children.

Oh look, he doesn't think a woman of color, a gay man, a man of color, and another woman of color are qualified to lead the nation. What a f*cking coincidence.

As an attempt to explain the vitriol I have for JD Vance -- I too have family in the foothills of Appalachia. I too moonlighted as one of them during summers, but I do not contain the hubris required to claim I speak for them. He is a liar and a fool, who twists the poor for his own benefit. Like all conservatives, his projection is transparent and threadbare. I am embarrassed by him.

Seth wrote:
The Hill wrote:

“Accept that, think about it. Big finance, Big tech, Wall Street, the biggest corporations, the universities, the media and the government...There is not a single institution in this country that conservatives currently control, but there is one of them, just one, that we might have a chance of actually controlling in the future and that's the constitutional republic that our founders gave us,” Vance said.

“My argument is that we need to fight woke capital, woke corporations and the governments that enable them, because we can't win anywhere else,” he continued.

"Now if you'll excuse me I have to go because Hannity wants to interview me for both his radio and his Fox News show and Ben Shapiro wants to talk to me so he can write up something for The Daily Wire," he continued. "Speaking of which, do you guys know how much Hannity, Shapiro, and other conservative news sources are shared on Facebook? They're consistently the top shared links every day, by far. It's just crazy how much they're shared. Anyhoo, gotta go. The tech entrepreneur who gave my campaign $10 million wants to make sure I'm dancing for his money! (God knows I don't want to dump some of the millions I made on Wall Street into my campaign...) White power! Err, I mean culture war! *wink*"

If any republican gave a sh*t about their kids, they'd do something about global warming besides deny it exists. f*ck him.

That reminds me... Rand Paul town hall video.

Alexis, the caller, represents Kentuckians better than he does.

Seth wrote:

Wealthy hedge fund manager, puppet of billionaires, fake poor person, and all around clown JD Vance has done a remarkable job humiliating himself and his family in his desparate bid to publicly fellate Donald Trump.

I think they need a new title for the piece. A moral collapse can only occur if you had them in the first place. This man has never had anything other than his own self-interest in mind.

But when people of color do have kids, they're "living beyond their means" or whatever.

It’s so gross. He’s so close to saying the 14 words. He wants to say it so badly.

To say nothing of what this means for childfree folks like me. It sounds like we’d be unpersons in JD Vance’s America, even though many of us made a principled choice not to bring children into this world precisely because of what we thought the future might look like.

The Hill wrote:

There is not a single institution in this country that conservatives currently control, but there is one of them, just one, that we might have a chance of actually controlling in the future and that's the constitutional republic that our founders gave us,” Vance said.

::cough:: ::cough:: Supreme Court? ::cough::

The Hill wrote:

Vance said that the culture war is a “class war” against middle and working class Americans, and also claimed that it's an economic war against conservatives.

Vance said in a “pure, raw cynical political claim" that conservatives “have lost every single major cultural institution in this country.”

“Accept that, think about it. Big finance, Big tech, Wall Street, the biggest corporations, the universities, the media and the government...There is not a single institution in this country that conservatives currently control, but there is one of them, just one, that we might have a chance of actually controlling in the future and that's the constitutional republic that our founders gave us,” Vance said.

“My argument is that we need to fight woke capital, woke corporations and the governments that enable them, because we can't win anywhere else,” he continued.

What I find amazing is that nobody is talking about how he doesn't believe that the church is an institution in this country.

Zaque wrote:
The Hill wrote:

Vance said that the culture war is a “class war” against middle and working class Americans, and also claimed that it's an economic war against conservatives.

Vance said in a “pure, raw cynical political claim" that conservatives “have lost every single major cultural institution in this country.”

“Accept that, think about it. Big finance, Big tech, Wall Street, the biggest corporations, the universities, the media and the government...There is not a single institution in this country that conservatives currently control, but there is one of them, just one, that we might have a chance of actually controlling in the future and that's the constitutional republic that our founders gave us,” Vance said.

“My argument is that we need to fight woke capital, woke corporations and the governments that enable them, because we can't win anywhere else,” he continued.

What I find amazing is that nobody is talking about how he doesn't believe that the church is an institution in this country.

Or that corporate America and the media are far left. Or that conservatives have no power in the legislature.

Most colleges are actually heavily conservative at the level of the their Boards of Trustees. But I guess they are not cultural institutions… State Houses, the Senate, much of the Federal judiciary, churches, business organizations at the state and national level, all of those are Republican dominated in large swathes of the country. Vance is just pulling stuff out of his ass and telling people it’s cotton candy…

Robear wrote:

Most colleges are actually heavily conservative at the level of the their Boards of Trustees. But I guess they are not cultural institutions…

Yeah, it's not like Nikole Hannah-Jones was just very publicly denied tenure at the University of North Carolina-Chapel Hill because of her involvement with the 1619 Project that one rich (and racist) mega-donor didn't like.

Yep. Approved by the academics and the administration, shot down by the board. Now she’s at Howard.

NSMike wrote:

I’m a Parkland Shooting Survivor. QAnon Convinced My Dad It Was All a Hoax

Can’t even imagine dealing with this.

I read the story and the part about the dad trying to trigger the kid made me think that I couldn't imagine many better grounds for emancipation.

NSMike wrote:

I’m a Parkland Shooting Survivor. QAnon Convinced My Dad It Was All a Hoax

Can’t even imagine dealing with this.

Conservative pundits have been calling the Capitol Police testifying today "crisis actors"...