Soccer Gaming Catch-All

Football Tactics & Glory has some management aspects to it that you might enjoy. It's definitely not FM or FIFA, but it's really fun and the devs are very involved in the community.

Thanks, I have read about that. Basically football management meets X-Com from what I understand. I will wishlist!

Blegh PES is going free to play apparently.

https://in.ign.com/pes-2022/162968/n...

I've been a PES over FIFA guy forever but if there's no master league, I'm out.

Yeah, this is "we want that Fortnite money."

No thank you, I'm out.

More proof I'm getting old and the gaming industry is not going for whatever market slice I'm in. There are talks about possible DLC on top of the free-to-play, where the current single player modes would be for sale. We'll see, but my hopes are not high.

As a sidenote: with this move, Konami is also side-lining the entire Belgian market. Our government classified all these loot boxey things as gambling years ago, meaning I was never able to purchase gold coins in PES on the PS4 store for example. With a free-to-play model, they will have to push towards in-app purchases even more to get revenue, much of which will not even be available in my neck of the woods.

Would things like the Master League count as an in-app purchase ? I would have thought that if PES works through Steam, then the purchase would be in actual currency, rather than gold coins or whatever Konami use.

Apparently Master League as DLC has been confirmed today, so that would indeed be in normal currency. Option files would be supported "at a later stage".

Non sequitur: There's so much noise about the name change from PES to eFootball to sift through when digging for actual news. They could name it Call of National Team Duty: Centre Back Ops for all I care, just give me something to play casually while the online community makes each others lives miserable

dejanzie wrote:

They could name it Call of National Team Duty: Centre Back Ops for all I care, just give me something to play casually while the online community makes each others lives miserable :lol:

SI revealed its plans for including women's football in Football Manager. Seems like they're going about it the right way.

https://www.footballmanager.com/news...

You'll be able to do a Phil Neville: have a career of mismanaging men's and women's teams in the same save!

I'm really looking forward to it. Seems it won't be until FM22 or FM23 though.

I'm late to these, but apparently the John Bois thing Secret Base did a couple of videos on messing around with football formations in FM

Part 1:

Part 2:

So about that eFootball 2022...

BOX QUOTE wrote:

Last week, I said I was worried about eFootball. Now it's out, I'm afraid to say it's even worse than I expected.

Reminder: Konami took an extra year for this.

In a totally unrelated note: I botched the mods for ePES 2021 somehow, now my players have no feet for some reason. I kind of gave up after that, but it's been long enough that I'm willing to just erase it all and retry from scratch.

Is there maybe a super mod you guys use for ePES 2021, that includes most stuff so that my mods don't start conflicting each other?

Yup.

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Apparently Konami are the FIFA series' biggest fans.

It feels like every 3-5 years, Konami briefly manages to sneak ahead of FIFA, and then slips right back behind them.

Not that anyone should be following the models EA and 2K games are, but those are two companies that clearly care about their sports titles.

dejanzie wrote:

In a totally unrelated note: I botched the mods for ePES 2021 somehow, now my players have no feet for some reason. I kind of gave up after that, but it's been long enough that I'm willing to just erase it all and retry from scratch.

Just call it Fire Emblem Awakening mode.

Stele wrote:
dejanzie wrote:

In a totally unrelated note: I botched the mods for ePES 2021 somehow, now my players have no feet for some reason. I kind of gave up after that, but it's been long enough that I'm willing to just erase it all and retry from scratch.

Just call it Fire Emblem Awakening mode. ;)

*starts googling "PES Emblem Awakening Kit"*

Stele wrote:
dejanzie wrote:

In a totally unrelated note: I botched the mods for ePES 2021 somehow, now my players have no feet for some reason. I kind of gave up after that, but it's been long enough that I'm willing to just erase it all and retry from scratch.

Just call it Fire Emblem Awakening mode. ;)

Reverse WikiFeet mode.

From one of the most PES-loving YouTube channels around (one that declared 2021 the single most realistic soccer game ever made, I think):

I honestly find no reason to review this game. It bares no resemblance to anything I loved about PES over the past 20 years of playing the game. My problem with eFootball isn't the new gameplay mechanics, which I was looking forward to relearn. I actually agree with the ideas behind them. My issue with eFootball isn't the sliding, the skating, the disjointed players, the missing tactics, the bugs, the broken collisions, the net physics etc. None of that matters because the FEEL of PES is simply gone. This core gameplay feels very cheap, with extremely basic core mechanics that have nothing to do with any console version of PES or Winning Eleven. This isn't something that can be fixed or salvaged with an update. This is like asking NeoGeo to update Super Sidekicks so it plays like Winning Eleven. It's simply not possible to completely change into a different one through an update or a datapack. eFootball is unsalvageable as far as I'm concerned. I am 100% sure now that this is simply the mobile game, with upgraded assets to look better on consoles. While I'm perfectly fine playing modded PES 2021 forever, my only hope is that a few former developers from Konami form a new team and make a predecessor to PES, but that's a big ask. Oh well.

Y I K E S

Yeah, this is not the usual ebb and flow between FIFA and PES. This is a train wreck. The Youtuber I follow, SpoonyPizza, was cautiously optimistic after playing a build at a Konami event. But apparently the released game is much worse.

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In other news: PES 21 with the Virtuared modpack is still amazing. Do I care that online play is no longer possible? Nope, not having to click through about a dozen MyClub announcements and promo's every time I start the game is a feature not a bug. Do I care about not having the latest transfers incorporated? Less than I thought, and that will be updated at some point.

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Yikes.

Arise thread!

So I saw this video pop up in my recommendations today:

And I realized something, that as I get older, the more and more I am against "Shot Power" as a rating.

Shot power is really a matter of technique more than raw physical ability, and several of the examples in the video aren't really of absolute power but of technique. Frankly, I don't think power is nearly as important as technical ability when it comes to finishing, and increasingly I think that it is a cosmetic rating that games could happily get rid of.

(This is where you all get to vociferously disagree with me.)

I am so excited about this, because FIFA's game is going to be so, so, so bad.

Bold prediction: after fruitlessly trying to build their own game, FIFA will throw their lot in with Konami. eFootball will be rebranded FIFA eFootball Pro Evolution Soccer 2024.

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Memories...

If you have Amazon Prime, Football Manager 2022 (and a bunch of other stuff) is free on Prime Gaming, unlocks on Epic Games Store.

Prederick wrote:

I am so excited about this, because FIFA's game is going to be so, so, so bad.

Guess what?

Last month came the announcement of a FIFA game in Roblox which, and I swear I'm not making this up, doesn't have football but does have bowling (opens in new tab). Now comes a press release (opens in new tab) trumpeting four new titles, all of which are "future-focused web 3.0 games", and all of which look like absolute rubbish.

FIFA says the four games "each have a unique twist on the globe’s biggest football tournament" and I suppose you can't argue with that. The first is AI League: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022 Edition (opens in new tab) which is a kind of football auto-battler, with 4-on-4 teams which players 'coach' and improve over time.

This has a slight whiff of FIFA Ultimate Team in that at the heart of it is the ability to collect and trade players. But you can't play it until after the tournament: I signed up and all you can do right now is predict the results of future matches. I mean, if I wanted to do that I'd go down to the betting shop.

Then we have FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022 in the Upland Metaverse, which sounds vaguely dystopian. Upland is one of the many metaverse platforms out to strip cash from the starry eyed, and players can now visit a replica of Qatar's Lusail stadium and buy various FIFA trinkets. Who do they think this appeals to?

Then Matchday Challenge: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022 Edition which is, apparently, a "highly engaging social prediction game based on football cards". This doesn't appear to have launched yet either but, having done FUT and the metaverse, this feels like the Wordle-inspired entry.

Then the memorably named FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022 on Phygtl. No I wasn't choking: Phygtl is an AR mobile app and this lets users buy a worthless piece of a digital football. The "golden-globe-football" will appear on your phone and fans can buy "a limited fragment of it to attach and eternalize their handpicked FIFA World Cup pictures and video moments. A digital representation of eternal fandom."

Burn it to the ground.