The Some Like It HOT TAKES thread

garion333 wrote:
Higgledy wrote:
DSGamer wrote:

Just finished re-watching the modern Planet of the Apes trilogy. Am I crazy or is that one of the best series of movies of all time?

That series of 3 movies is incredible in so many ways. They basically made 3 art-house movies about a plague and talking apes with machine guns and somehow it has more emotional resonance and beauty than most modern films.

I adore those movies.

And yet you never hear about them anymore. It's super weird. Maybe it spoke too much about ourselves.

Instead we need more...... Avengers! It has so many stars and one liners!

I found a DC Fan!

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Dodge rolls are a tired mechanic and the entire industry should agree to a 12-month moratorium on putting them into games.

Agathos wrote:

Dodge rolls are a tired mechanic and the entire industry should agree to a 12-month moratorium on putting them into games.

Seconding and adding parrying to the list.

bbk1980 wrote:
Agathos wrote:

Dodge rolls are a tired mechanic and the entire industry should agree to a 12-month moratorium on putting them into games.

Seconding and adding parrying to the list.

These hot takes wound me to my very Soul.

RING-A-DING-DING!!

merphle wrote:
bbk1980 wrote:
Agathos wrote:

Dodge rolls are a tired mechanic and the entire industry should agree to a 12-month moratorium on putting them into games.

Seconding and adding parrying to the list.

These hot takes wound me to my very Soul.

Would that be ye Dark Souls?

Hobear wrote:
merphle wrote:
bbk1980 wrote:
Agathos wrote:

Dodge rolls are a tired mechanic and the entire industry should agree to a 12-month moratorium on putting them into games.

Seconding and adding parrying to the list.

These hot takes wound me to my very Soul.

Would that be ye Dark Souls?

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I adore the souls games and have completed them all multiple times. Not every game needs a parry though!

“Another Brick in the Wall” is basically a disco record.

DSGamer wrote:

“Another Brick in the Wall” is basically a disco record.

Just that song, or the entire double album?

If it’s just the song, then that’s not even a hot take. Add to that Queen’s Another One Bites the Dust, The Clash’s Rock the Casbah, ABBA’s Dancing Queen, and many more.

KISS "I Was Made For Loving You"

RawkGWJ wrote:
DSGamer wrote:

“Another Brick in the Wall” is basically a disco record.

Just that song, or the entire double album?

If it’s just the song, then that’s not even a hot take. Add to that Queen’s Another One Bites the Dust, The Clash’s Rock the Casbah, ABBA’s Dancing Queen, and many more.

Not that whole album. The specific song.

If you can't dance to Comfortably Numb or Hey You, are you really into disco, bro?

No lie though, you probably could make a decent dance remix of Young Lust.

Some people don't like the media they continue to watch.

RawkGWJ wrote:
DSGamer wrote:

“Another Brick in the Wall” is basically a disco record.

Just that song, or the entire double album?

If it’s just the song, then that’s not even a hot take. Add to that Queen’s Another One Bites the Dust, The Clash’s Rock the Casbah, ABBA’s Dancing Queen, and many more.

Rolling Stones - Miss You
Rod Stewart - Do You Think I'm Sexy
Wings - Goodnight Tonight

And possibly the most aggressively disco-inspired rock song of the era:

As a fan of both styles of music, I absolutely loved these fusion songs back in the day and I genuinely dig 'em now.

karmajay wrote:

Some people don't like the media they continue to watch.

I watch Jacksonville Jaguars games. I think we're beyond this being a hot take.

It's a shame we don't have a die hard Cowboys fan on GWJ that you can lord the Jags' playoff record during the last 25 years over.

Aaron D. wrote:
RawkGWJ wrote:
DSGamer wrote:

“Another Brick in the Wall” is basically a disco record.

Just that song, or the entire double album?

If it’s just the song, then that’s not even a hot take. Add to that Queen’s Another One Bites the Dust, The Clash’s Rock the Casbah, ABBA’s Dancing Queen, and many more.

Rolling Stones - Miss You
Rod Stewart - Do You Think I'm Sexy
Wings - Goodnight Tonight

And possibly the most aggressively disco-inspired rock song of the era:

As a fan of both styles of music, I absolutely loved these fusion songs back in the day and I genuinely dig 'em now.

You know. Say what you want about Jeff Lynn. Criticize that guy ‘til the end of time. I’m not saying you’re wrong.

But… Jeff Lynn stepped to the beat of his own drum. In hind sight, I really admire the guy. Sure. He’s that guy in The Traveling Willburys who makes you ask, “Wait! Who the f*ck is that guy?” Yet… he got to be in a band with George Harrison, Tom Petty, and Roy Orbison. Goddam! Them’s some credentials!

HOT TAKE: Jeff Lynn is a bad motherf*cker!

For me the realization was about ten years ago hearing Renegade by Styx. Great classic rock song, but I had always thought that genre had antibodies against disco. Renegade's bass-drum progression says otherwise.

Archangel wrote:

For me the realization was in Renegade by Styx. Great classic rock song, but I had always thought that genre had antibodies against disco. Renegade's bass-drum progression says otherwise.

While the sheeple were shouting, “DISCO SUCKS!”, many rockers were making cool disco-adjacent jams, which were greatly appreciated by the bros wearing the “Disco Sucks” tees.

Anti-disco sentiment was deeply rooted in bigotry.

It's not an accident that the kind of dance music that rock fans found especially objectionable was put forth and supported largely by minority and gay communities.

It's no accident that the expression of those objections - destroying disco records in bonfires - resembled Nazi book burnings.

It's no accident that albums from black artists that weren't disco in any way - Marvin Gaye, Stevie Wonder, etc - also ended up in those burning record piles.

There's a reason "disco's dead" was perpetuated as a meme in a way few other musical styles which fell out of popularity were ever subject to. Disco didn't die of natural causes. Disco was hate crimed.

Some people take exception to this interpretation of events, claiming it a "woke" revisionist history. From what I've gathered, the gay and black people of Chicago who lived through Disco Demolition Night tend not to be part of that group.

Dave Grohl wrote:

I told Tony Thompson, "Man ... I've been ripping you off my whole life", he goes, "I know"

*Legion* wrote:

Anti-disco sentiment was deeply rooted in bigotry.

It's not an accident that the kind of dance music that rock fans found especially objectionable was put forth and supported largely by minority and gay communities.

It's no accident that the expression of those objections - destroying disco records in bonfires - resembled Nazi book burnings.

It's no accident that albums from black artists that weren't disco in any way - Marvin Gaye, Stevie Wonder, etc - also ended up in those burning record piles.

There's a reason "disco's dead" was perpetuated as a meme in a way few other musical styles which fell out of popularity were ever subject to. Disco didn't die of natural causes. Disco was hate crimed.

Some people take exception to this interpretation of events, claiming it a "woke" revisionist history. From what I've gathered, the gay and black people of Chicago who lived through Disco Demolition Night tend not to be part of that group.

This all checks out on my end.

Except that disco never ever really died. Queer culture kept the embers of disco burning and disco also permeated other pop music genres.

I mean. Even The Grateful Dead has disco influenced songs.

My jam band leader introduced me to the Traveling Wilburys, which I was not familiar with at all. We play End of the Line and Handle Me With Care all the time. The songwriting is amazing. I personally find the back and forth with all the voices and parts to be a little distracting, but otherwise enjoy the band.

There's a pretty cool podcast called You're Wrong About that has an episode on Disco Demolition Night. They spend quite a bit of time drawing a very clear line in music progression from enslaved/indigenous music --> jazz/blues --> rock n roll --> disco --> edm that's quite convincing. Love him or hate him, most of Kanye's library is disco influenced, too.

Mixolyde wrote:

My jam band leader introduced me to the Traveling Wilburys, which I was not familiar with at all. We play End of the Line and Handle Me With Care all the time. The songwriting is amazing. I personally find the back and forth with all the voices and parts to be a little distracting, but otherwise enjoy the band.

I was just commenting on Handle Me With Care yesterday. Roy Orbison sounds like an opera singer next to Tom Petty's road-hard-put-away-wet gravelly voice. I love the Wilburys and each individual member, so not a criticism.

Seth wrote:

There's a pretty cool podcast called You're Wrong About that has an episode on Disco Demolition Night. They spend quite a bit of time drawing a very clear line in music progression from enslaved/indigenous music --> jazz/blues --> rock n roll --> disco --> edm that's quite convincing. Love him or hate him, most of Kanye's library is disco influenced, too.

Oh wow, I need to listen to that. Thanks for the recommendation.

When I was an adolescent in Belgium, the "choice" was between rock (Nirvana, Metallica, etc.) or what is now called EDM (techno, trance, house). The association with EDM was more with white trash drug addicts, but unfortunately there might be a more racist undercurrent as well. Or not, Belgian EDM was home-grown after being imported from Germany.

I've spent all morning listening to Roy Orbison now thanks to the mention of the Traveling Wilburys. Did you know he collaborated with Glenn Danzig?

Orbison is the best! Supposedly the reason The Traveling Wilburys was formed was just because those guys wanted to be in a band with Roy and to hear him sing new songs. Those Wilburys songs need desperately to be remastered though. They’re sounding rough.

Oh. I just realized something. Jeff Lynne is the last surviving Wilbury. Huh. Oh wait. I forgot Bob Dylan was part of it too.

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Correction. There is a remastered edition combining both albums into a box set. I have been foolishly listening to the crappy original digital master version.

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Some of my Roy Orbison karaoke jams:
Crying
I Drove All Night
Running Scared

Running Scared is a song that only Roy would've written. Everyone else would've been told "no, you have to have a chorus!"