Year of Trek

PaladinTom wrote:

Like women not being able to be captains?!

Eh, it was the sixties. They just wisely ignored that episode going forward.

The one they mention about the warp speed scale is perhaps the weakest continuity "error" there is. The warp scale changed completely between TOS and TNG - passing warp 10 would not have meant the same thing in TOS that it did in TNG.

There's no official confirmation of this, but many fans believe the Excelsior's "transwarp" technology (which came to mean something very different in Voyager) was actually the reason that the warp scale changed - After they fixed Scotty's sabotage in Search for Spock, the Excelsior was a successful experiment, and the warp scale was permanently changed to reflect their new capabilities.

And since warp 10 had long been established (since before TNG) as the theoretical maximum, the use of Warp 13 may seem confusing in the TNG finale, but my personal theory is much simpler. Since there are technically an infinite number of warp speeds between warp 9.0 and warp 10.0, the simply slid the scale again to represent the new speeds they were capable of between the TNG's warp 9 and 10. Maybe made Warp 20 the new theoretical maximum. Making Warp 13 the new Warp 6 or so.

I remember reading in a non-Canon technical manual when I was a kid that for Next Gen the warp scale was changed to reflect faster engines. So warp 10 for Kirk may have only been warp 7 for Picard.

Or just repeat to yourself, “It’s just a show, I should really just relax.”

Norfair wrote:

Or just repeat to yourself, “It’s just a show, I should really just relax.”

It’s also okay to point out inconsistencies in a show. Not everyone gets all that bent about it.

Rat Boy wrote:

I sure hope the character on the right's a Brikarian.

I was right!

Omg Jason Mantzoukas and Dee Bradley Baker!

Veloxi wrote:

Omg Jason Mantzoukas and Dee Bradley Baker!

I love them both, too!

Zooooooooooouks!

Picard Season 2 trailer:

It looks like another plotline involving time travel and alternate universes *yawn*

My mother always told me that if you don't have anything nice to say, you shouldn't say anything at all.

Which is why all I'll say about my expectations for future seasons of Picard is

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Counter-point: compared to Discovery, Picard S1 was kind of a meandering letdown, and I always look forward to time travel to bring Trek back to its roots.

Is it just me, or did John de Lancie's Q in this trailer come off as really menacing? Like, he and his son have seen some sh*t and he's just done with it all menacing?

News story about Ron Moore (Battlestar Galactica, For All Mankind) explaining how Gene Roddenberry didn’t want Worf to be an important character. https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/tv...

It’s frustrating to read a story in which Rick Berman is one of the good guys.

Berman's only mention in the story is that he 'ran interference' which can literally mean anything. Hell, Roddenberry's only mention is that he wanted TNG to focus on Picard, nothing specific about his feelings about Worf or Dorn.

Its a bit of a non-story. (shocker)

Sure, but don’t you like hearing firsthand accounts (decades afterward) of how the sausage was made? To me this is more illustrative material of the challenges of creating a worthwhile show than the stories the “talent” shares at conventions.

Re: Berman, this story links to another in which he earlier had to similarly pitch a Ron Moore story, the “Family” episode about post-Locutus PTSD.

Instead of these kinds of stories eventually coming out about Picard and Discovery, would you prefer those that just ask the stars how they felt about playing the first trans Trek character, etc.? I 95% don’t give a crap what the actors were thinking.

Oh I read that before about Family. Fantastic episode.

I’m actually really excited for Picard. Discovery was (to me, and I realize it’s not a universal opinion) painfully stupid, to the point that I had to force myself to watch this last season.

Picard has some weak moments, no argument, but the writing and acting is stronger, and it’s just a more enjoyable world to visit than Discovery offers - said as someone who meandered through every episode of every other Trek series over the past 30+ years, so perhaps I’m just open to the slower pace and more character-study like feeling S1 offered?

Yeah Picard was better overall but man did they botch the landing in the final episode or two. From piss poor CGI to BS deus ex machina and a couple other nonsensical things, the end really left a bad taste.

Yeah, I made it through the first season of Picard largely on the strength of my fondness for the character and the setting. They really needed to stick the landing to get me to come back for the second season, and they just... didn't. At all.

When people use words like "character study" to describe it, that's when I'm over here wondering if we even watched the same show.

hbi2k wrote:

Yeah, I made it through the first season of Picard largely on the strength of my fondness for the character and the setting. They really needed to stick the landing to get me to come back for the second season, and they just... didn't. At all.

When people use words like "character study" to describe it, that's when I'm over here wondering if we even watched the same show.

Picard was a lovie fest for all the old TNG thesp’s to be honest. Bringing in Q just reinforces it. I don’t understand why they don’t just call it ‘Star Trek, The Old Generation’.

It really smacks of too many cooks in the kitchen, because on the one hand you hear about Patrick Stewart wanting a whole new crew and to limit cameos from classic characters so that it can stand on its own and speaking really passionately about the Brexit parallels or whatever, and on the other hand you've got a whole episode at Casa Riker and cramming in Hugh and Icheb and Seven and now Q and Guinan and probably more, which I have to imagine is coming from suits trying to cash in on nostalgia.

So at the end of the day you've got this muddled political allegory reaching for themes it can't quite grasp. And a TNG reunion tour with 3/4 of the cast missing and the exact opposite tone you'd want. And a plot that doesn't hang together because it's still Alex Kurtzman running the writer's room.

Whoa, Walking Dead girl.

Ugh….looks like they’re finally going forward with another Trek film…..

…..with JJ Abrams again.

https://www.digitalspy.com/movies/a3...

Haven’t watched Wandavision (Both of the big long Avengers films, the ones about finger snapping and dust, the only ones I watched, bored me to tears.), so should that team be considered a net plus?

AFAIK Abrams is neither writing nor directing, just producing.

Wandavision was ambitious but flawed; it bit off a little more than it could chew trying to tell a story about grief while being set in a comic book universe where death is impermanent, which kind of undercuts its attempted themes in a way that the show doesn't manage to transcend. It was a lot of fun getting there, though.

Doesn't look like either of the writers have a lot of credits to their name.

I am very much not a fan of the Abrams Trek films. They feel like to me like he just wanted to make a Star Wars film to me, and they are what he did till he was eventually allowed to make a Star Wars film.

Heh, and thus I dislike them for the exact same reason.

Gotta say, though, that was one hell of a cast.

I enjoyed the Kelvin timeline movies but don't watch them in the same light. It is partly why I dislike Discovery, because I am expecting a more traditional Star Trek and got a JJ like show. But if I am expecting a JJ movie then I can usually accept it.

I enjoyed the first one despite its flaws-- nonsensical plot, nothing villain-- because I saw it as largely an excuse to get everyone back in their old chairs, and I liked the cast.

Then the second one came, and... yeesh. It managed to be a step down in almost every respect, and without the novelty of a new cast to help me get past it.

Never saw the third one. I hear tell it's the best of the bunch, but the second one left a REAL bad taste in my mouth.