Ryan Fitzpatrick exists so if you have a terrible o-line, you plug him in for half the games and protect your QB while you build it up for the next season.
Tyrod Taylor too.
I wonder who the next journeyman starting QB is going to be when these two are done. Who is a good but athletically limited starter that you can comfortably start for a while but you're always looking to improve on? Someone smart enough to roll into town and learn your system quickly.
It's early days in his career still, but I could see Gardner Minshew being that guy.
Justin Fields just ran a 4.44 40 at his Pro Day.
Damn. I had him pegged in the mid 4.5 range.
This puts him just a hair behind RG3 (4.41) and RG3 weighed about 15 fewer pounds.
It's early days in his career still, but I could see Gardner Minshew being that guy.
First one I thought of. He's young and just mustachioed, but, one day, he will emerge from his cocoon with his beard in full, Fitzpatrick-esque glory.
*Legion* wrote:It's early days in his career still, but I could see Gardner Minshew being that guy.
First one I thought of. He's young and just mustachioed, but, one day, he will emerge from his cocoon with his beard in full, Fitzpatrick-esque glory.
I actually think the mustache is the perfect differentiator between the two. Can be Minshew's future trademark. "Get me that guy with the mustache! He'll hold fort until *INSERT ROOKIE QB* is ready!" says cigar-chomping GM.
Unfortunately Minshew needs to be a starter for Buffalo for at least 3 years to take up the mantle. Somehow the Bills are good with a good QB so...
Vector wrote:Ryan Fitzpatrick exists so if you have a terrible o-line, you plug him in for half the games and protect your QB while you build it up for the next season.
Tyrod Taylor too.
I wonder who the next journeyman starting QB is going to be when these two are done. Who is a good but athletically limited starter that you can comfortably start for a while but you're always looking to improve on? Someone smart enough to roll into town and learn your system quickly.
It's early days in his career still, but I could see Gardner Minshew being that guy.
Bama is Bama
Alabama QBs haven’t been much better in the NFL. I pretty much view them through the same lens as OSU QBs. When most, if not all, of the o-line is early round draft picks with NFL quality receivers anybody will look decent.
Enix wrote:Bama is Bama
Alabama QBs haven’t been much better in the NFL. I pretty much view them through the same lens as OSU QBs. When most, if not all, of the o-line is early round draft picks with NFL quality receivers anybody will look decent.
The last QB from Alabama who would be unequivocally called good is probably Ken Stabler. Bama QBs have had a ceiling off Peru much AJ McCarron.
iaintgotnopants wrote:Enix wrote:Bama is Bama
Alabama QBs haven’t been much better in the NFL. I pretty much view them through the same lens as OSU QBs. When most, if not all, of the o-line is early round draft picks with NFL quality receivers anybody will look decent.
The last QB from Alabama who would be unequivocally called good is probably Ken Stabler. Bama QBs have had a ceiling off Peru much AJ McCarron.
Are you belittling the long and storied career of Greg, the worst McElroy brother, McElroy? I mean, he's on TV now. They don't let bad football players on TV, do they?
Whew, Justin Fields pro day was something special. His downside of holding onto the ball really doesn't fit well with Shanny though.
Man, I can completely understand the talk of Mac Jones to the Niners. Jumping up to 3 gives them the ability to choose their guy while the Falcons are stuck with whoever is left.
This is a well and truly fascinating discussion, but it'll be so much better if the Jets don't take a QB with a second pick.
This is a well and truly fascinating discussion, but it'll be so much better if the
JetsJaguars don't take a QB with asecondfirst pick.
Buzbee won't provide information to police
Well, that doesn't look at all sleazy.
Yup, I popped in here to post that link. He's managing to squeeze a big helping of self-serving political theater into this.
Everything about Buzbee continues to set off all the wrong flags. If there weren't SO many victims and the one who talked to SI it would be SO easy to believe it was fake/extortion.
Everything about Buzbee continueas to set off all the wrong things. If there weren't SO many victims and the one who talked to SI it would be SO easy to believe it was fake/extortion.
Yeah. I'm still 100% in belief of the women's accounts, and think Buzbee's sleaze is just opportunism rather than fabrication.
But I will say that the sleazier Buzbee is, the firmer I am in my belief that there were shenanigans related to these cases landing in Buzbee's lap in the first place.
Everything about this story is awful, and Watson's lawyers today released a series of statements from massage therapists who had positive experiences with Watson, as if "didn't sexually assault everybody" somehow equates to "didn't sexually assault anybody". This is an ugly story in every way.
Also, you're a @#$!! professional athlete, and considered one of the singly-best at your position anywhere. If you wanted a massage, you plan to move between several dozen private massage therapists, every single one of whom whose name has come out so far is a woman? If you wanted a massage, the Texans organization wouldn't provide that in-house happily at any time you darn well please?
Everything about this story is awful, and Watson's lawyers today released a series of statements from massage therapists who had positive experiences with Watson, as if "didn't sexually assault everybody" somehow equates to "didn't sexually assault anybody". This is an ugly story in every way.
Also, you're a @#$!! professional athlete, and considered one of the singly-best at your position anywhere. If you wanted a massage, you plan to move between several dozen private massage therapists, every single one of whom whose name has come out so far is a woman? If you wanted a massage, the Texans organization wouldn't provide that in-house happily at any time you darn well please?
It's about flaunting his power over them. He sets the rules of the engagement, deliberately broke their boundaries, and then acted as if nothing had happened with them. It literally gets him off. At least according to the SI story.
garion333 wrote:Everything about Buzbee continueas to set off all the wrong things. If there weren't SO many victims and the one who talked to SI it would be SO easy to believe it was fake/extortion.
Yeah. I'm still 100% in belief of the women's accounts, and think Buzbee's sleaze is just opportunism rather than fabrication.
But I will say that the sleazier Buzbee is, the firmer I am in my belief that there were shenanigans related to these cases landing in Buzbee's lap in the first place.
The SI story indicated that one of the reasons she's, at this time, not considering legal action is because Buzbee's firm is requiring her to sign exclusivity contracts. She does not trust him either.
Also: Most colleges can't claim a single starting NFL QB, much less two SUPERBOWL STARTING QBs
(or three, like Oklahoma w Baker, Murray and Hurts).
This is where I'm supposed to chime in right?
This is where I'm supposed to chime in right?
NFL starting QB count:
Cal: 2
Fresno State: 1
USC: 1
fUCLA: 0
Stanfurd: 0
Everything about this story is awful, and Watson's lawyers today released a series of statements from massage therapists who had positive experiences with Watson, as if "didn't sexually assault everybody" somehow equates to "didn't sexually assault anybody". This is an ugly story in every way.
Also, you're a @#$!! professional athlete, and considered one of the singly-best at your position anywhere. If you wanted a massage, you plan to move between several dozen private massage therapists, every single one of whom whose name has come out so far is a woman? If you wanted a massage, the Texans organization wouldn't provide that in-house happily at any time you darn well please?
Yeah, the list of women he didn't assault only further establishes just how much Watson's massage habit involves sequentially moving from one female massage therapist to the next. Usually, you find someone who does a good job and, you know, book them again and again. Maybe have a small group of go-to favorites so availability isn't an issue. There's only a few possible reasons to be hitting up every female massage therapist in the city, and they're all pretty bad.
21 total lawsuits now, by the way. Blackjack.
Carlbear95 wrote:This is where I'm supposed to chime in right?
NFL starting QB count:
Cal: 2
Fresno State: 1
USC: 1
fUCLA: 0
Stanfurd: 0
Is there any correlation between being a starting QB in one Super Bowl and being a good QB?
Also: Most colleges can't claim a single starting NFL QB, much less two (or three, like Oklahoma w Baker, Murray and Hurts).
2 starting QB club here.
Hell we have a 3rd QB who is playing backup RB and scored some TDs last season.
*Legion* wrote:Carlbear95 wrote:This is where I'm supposed to chime in right?
NFL starting QB count:
Cal: 2
Fresno State: 1
USC: 1
fUCLA: 0
Stanfurd: 0Is there any correlation between being a starting QB in one Super Bowl and being a good QB?
I dunno.. Marino started in one SB didn't he? Obviously my bias is showing through, but I'm not sure why Goff seems to get thrown into the Heath Shuler / Tim Couch / Ryan Leaf category.
Two headlines in a row on PFT:
-Jason Licht promises not to draft another kicker.
-Bucs plan on picking up Vita Vea's fifth-year option.
Uh, "duh" and "duh".
Two headlines in a row on PFT:
-Jason Licht promises not to draft another kicker.
-Bucs plan on picking up Vita Vea's fifth-year option.Uh, "duh" and "duh".
*points at calendar*
Enjoy your 1st round kicker and 5th round replacement DT. Get wrecked nerd.
MilkmanDanimal wrote:Two headlines in a row on PFT:
-Jason Licht promises not to draft another kicker.
-Bucs plan on picking up Vita Vea's fifth-year option.Uh, "duh" and "duh".
*points at calendar*
Enjoy your 1st round kicker and 5th round replacement DT. Get wrecked nerd.
Listen, I clearly have a less than entirely comfortable relationship with my historical Bucs fandom these days, but, well, is this really the offseason to be taunting a Bucs fan? I mean, I know how you look forward to the opportunity to have one of your teams ruin a generational QB prospect in a way that makes Andrew Luck wince and the other OH PLEASE GOD draft Mac Jones, but, you know . . .
Two headlines in a row on PFT:
-Jason Licht promises not to draft another kicker.
-Bucs plan on picking up Vita Vea's fifth-year option.Uh, "duh" and "duh".
Vita Vea was drafted 5 years ago!?!?!? Now I feel old
is this really the offseason to be taunting a Bucs fan?
It's easy to sh*t talk when you have the advantage. True pros can do it from the bottom of the standings.
My teams are gonna draft a pair of transcendent QB prospects that set them up for the next 20 years, while Tampa will be headed to the dumpster in about another year after Arians calls it quits again, and Brady retires to a leisurely life of children mouth-kissing and occasional posts on Trump's floundering new social media site.
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