Home Theater catch-all

TheGameguru wrote:
Is HDMI 2.1 a desire? That would determine a great deal what you put in between the TV and the Series X

How so? He just got his TV 1-2 years ago so I will ask him the model.
Edit: TV is https://www.lg.com/us/tvs/lg-49UH610... , Looks like I was off on the 1-2 years old.
3 HDMI (HDCP 2.2) ports.

You won't have to worry about HDMI 2.1 since its relatively new and mostly late 2019 and 2020 model TV's have it.

EvilDead wrote:

@Malor - That's more or less how I have my setup now but he isn't the type of person to fuss with parts. He'll just want to set it up and never think about it again.

He'd probably want to look at an HTIB, then. As long as it uses standard components, it will work with the wiring in the walls, and will let him upgrade pieces later if he wants.

What's the general consensus when it comes to choosing which devices to connect to your TV versus your receiver?

For context I have a 2019 Vizio M558 and I'm looking to pick up the Denon AVR-S750H receiver this week. Devices I already have (in descending order of importance) are an Apple TV 4K, Nintendo Switch, Xbox One (launch edition), PS4+VR (launch console, no HDR pass-through with the VR breakout box), and faithful ol' Xbox 360 -- five devices in total. Vizio has 4 HDMI inputs, Denon has 6 HDMI inputs, and both support ARC and CEC.

I was thinking to connect the Apple TV to the receiver, while connecting the game consoles to the TV. With the Apple TV I care most about audio/video quality, while the consoles I'm thinking more about reducing potential input lag.

Or, should I just plug everything into the receiver and route just one HDMI cable to the TV?

Unless your receiver doesn't do passthrough for all the video formats you need, then I can't think of a reason not to run everything into the receiver. It cuts down the number of cables you need to run, reduces or eliminates any potential audio sync issues, and doesn't leave you at the mercy of your TV's ARC capabilities. Not all TVs pass audio signals back the way you'd expect via ARC, and sometimes they introduce audio lag that it's hard to fix.

Also, in my experience, switching inputs on the TV is slower than switching them on the receiver.

Denon has 6 HDMI inputs, and both support ARC and CEC.

eARC or just ARC? eARC is much better.

Malor wrote:
Denon has 6 HDMI inputs, and both support ARC and CEC.

eARC or just ARC? eARC is much better.

The Denon supports eARC, but my Vizio does not.

I'd probably try consoles to TV, using ARC, to see how it comes out. It's my understanding that regular ARC is iffy with many sound sources. eARC, I guess, can just take any bitstream and pass it through to the receiver, but ARC is very limited, and the TV will often have to do internal conversions. You could see all kinds of weird problems. You could also see totally smooth sailing with no visible impairment. It depends on how good the TV is.

The reason to try that first is that video lag is far more noticeable than audio lag. If the TV's audio chip is slow but passes sound correctly, you probably won't notice its lag. But if the Denon's video chip is slow and inserts an extra frame or two, you might very well feel that.

If ARC doesn't fully work, then the first thing to try is to reduce the quality of the sound signal you're sending, say from DTS-HD to just DTS. If that doesn't work, I'd connect anything that's still unhappy to the Denon instead.

If you want everything to just work without fiddling, on the other hand, connecting everything to the Denon is likely to be absolutely smooth sailing. But it might add some video lag.

After about 10 years of service, I think my Onkyo TX-NR414 passed away. It has been serving as my AV Receiver in my home office for the last 4 years, after we bought another more compact receiver for downstairs. It's the hub where my PC, PS4 and Switch connect to.

So I will be looking at an AV receiver replacement. If a scenario is possible without receiver I'm open to suggestions, but I don't know how else I would manage the 3 HDMI inputs + 1 or 2 optical otherwise. Only 2 speakers and no sub connected, and no plans to do so. It needs to be 4K compatible for future proofing when PS5's become available someday.

My first searches seem to indicate that it's also a tough market for receivers right now, with well-reviewed low-budget receivers like the Sony STR-DH590, Denon AVR-S450BT and Yamaha RX-V385BL available nowhere.

Any suggestions would be more than welcome.

Why not a quality soundbar and rely on E-Arc.

TheGameguru wrote:

Why not a quality soundbar and rely on E-Arc.

Thought about that, but I have two perfectly functioning stereo speakers (could sell them I guess), and if I understand correctly that would mean channelling all devices to my monitors first and then routing the sound back outwards to the soundbar? At least if I want to easily switch between PC/PlayStation/Switch/other device.

That would also mean a lot of cable clutter that is now hidden under the desk has to move above-deck, and the only output on my monitor is analog.

edit: found a Sony STR-DH590 in stock for about 330EUR, a budget receiver compatible with all current standards at least. Sound is okay according to most reviews, lacks power but it's for an office room. Any thoughts?

I also looked at used receivers, but those are either too old to be compatible with 4K or the people selling demand way too much.

dejanzie wrote:
TheGameguru wrote:

Why not a quality soundbar and rely on E-Arc.

Thought about that, but I have two perfectly functioning stereo speakers (could sell them I guess), and if I understand correctly that would mean channelling all devices to my monitors first and then routing the sound back outwards to the soundbar? At least if I want to easily switch between PC/PlayStation/Switch/other device.

That would also mean a lot of cable clutter that is now hidden under the desk has to move above-deck, and the only output on my monitor is analog.

edit: found a Sony STR-DH590 in stock for about 330EUR, a budget receiver compatible with all current standards at least. Sound is okay according to most reviews, lacks power but it's for an office room. Any thoughts?

I also looked at used receivers, but those are either too old to be compatible with 4K or the people selling demand way too much.

What's your definition of "lacks power"? It's rated at 90w/channel 20hz-20khz, which is way more than you'd need in an office. Seems like a decent choice, given the limited options at the moment.

Chairman_Mao wrote:
dejanzie wrote:
TheGameguru wrote:

Why not a quality soundbar and rely on E-Arc.

Thought about that, but I have two perfectly functioning stereo speakers (could sell them I guess), and if I understand correctly that would mean channelling all devices to my monitors first and then routing the sound back outwards to the soundbar? At least if I want to easily switch between PC/PlayStation/Switch/other device.

That would also mean a lot of cable clutter that is now hidden under the desk has to move above-deck, and the only output on my monitor is analog.

edit: found a Sony STR-DH590 in stock for about 330EUR, a budget receiver compatible with all current standards at least. Sound is okay according to most reviews, lacks power but it's for an office room. Any thoughts?

I also looked at used receivers, but those are either too old to be compatible with 4K or the people selling demand way too much.

What's your definition of "lacks power"? It's rated at 90w/channel 20hz-20khz, which is way more than you'd need in an office. Seems like a decent choice, given the limited options at the moment.

Yeah I meant it like that : lack of power is a good thing as it means more affordable.

Turns out a new low range Sony receiver produces better sound than a 10 year old mid-range Onkyo! Yay! Compatibility with the latest standards is just a bonus, for when PS5's finally become available.

I've got a Panasonic Viera ZT60 plasma that I don't plan on replacing until it dies (so no HDR or 4K for me, yet), which does have ARC but not HDMI 2.1, and hooked up to it is a Series X. I'd like to get some better sound from it but don't want to bother with a 5.1 or 7.1 system at this stage. So, looking to do a 2.1 soundbar.

I am looking for something budget friendly to plop on my Christmas list. Is anything under $300 worth it? I want better sound, but don't need top end sound. Just something simple to get better sound.

I got a second hand Yamaha YAS-106 for our little apartment for a measly 50€. It's been discontinued, lacks connections and the latest standards, but has good quality sound. Your text to link here...

In other words, go for a decent quality but used model ?

dejanzie wrote:

I got a second hand Yamaha YAS-106 for our little apartment for a measly 50€. It's been discontinued, lacks connections and the latest standards, but has good quality sound. Your text to link here...

In other words, go for a decent quality but used model ?

Nice. I was looking into one of the discontinued Bose models for like $150. I think I like this Yamaha even more.