[Discussion] Welcome to the Biden Administration!

Anything related to Biden and his upcoming administration. May this thread be less active and controversial as that last guys thread.

Why, was Biden a guest this week?

GuruChaz wrote:

Yeah...no thank you. You guys are being lied to by your party. #walkaway
America loves Trump. 57-43 Acquittal.

What did the five fingers say to the face?

Ooh, a new an old troll! I saw the account creation date.

Also, of course it's not the same. There's different hosts and guests.

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This is just like being on Twitter and having "PatriotEagle8845" zoom in to strafe a thread.

I mean, I've been part of derails on this thread before, but I've never pried up the rails and sold them for scrap.

Good, that was the minimum necessary. Now, will they do more than the minimum?

Malor wrote:

Good, that was the minimum necessary. Now, will they do more than the minimum?

What would be more in this case?

GuruChaz wrote:

Yeah...no thank you. You guys are being lied to by your party. #walkaway
America loves Trump. 57-43 Acquittal.

Do hashtags work in this forum?

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lunchbox12682 wrote:
Malor wrote:

Good, that was the minimum necessary. Now, will they do more than the minimum?

What would be more in this case?

Wait, are we talking about Ducklo or the forum troll?

I was talking about Ducklo, dunno what others were.

It seems to me that some externally-visible punishment on the team that tried to cover up his threats would be an excellent idea. I'm not certain they should be fired, but I don't think that would be unreasonable, either.

Some sort of censure should happen, I think, and it should be visible to the public. That kind of crap is not acceptable, and covering up that crap is almost as bad. (hell, you could argue that it was worse.)

Malor wrote:

I was talking about Ducklo, dunno what others were.

It seems to me that some externally-visible punishment on the team that tried to cover up his threats would be an excellent idea. I'm not certain they should be fired, but I don't think that would be unreasonable, either.

Some sort of censure should happen, I think, and it should be visible to the public. That kind of crap is not acceptable, and covering up that crap is almost as bad. (hell, you could argue that it was worse.)

Oh ok. I was thinking you were referring to more to do with Ducklo. Ignore me.

So, he didn't even make it to Monday. If the story fizzles, nothing else will happen. If it stays in the headlines longer and there is evidence that others tried to cover it up, it'll escalate.

Man, whatever happened to doing things because they're the right thing to do, and not because the press is upset?

I'm... Not sure that has ever happened in the history of this country.

Page and a half of TJ Ducklo talk and nobody’s mentioned that he has stage 4 lung cancer?

I’m quite sure this had something to do with the kid gloves. Back when I was in the private sector, firing someone was the worst part of the job. I can only imagine doing it to this guy you just won an election with who has cancer in his lungs, liver, bones, and gall bladder. :/

https://www.washingtonian.com/2020/1...

Blind_Evil wrote:

Page and a half of TJ Ducklo talk and nobody’s mentioned that he has stage 4 lung cancer?

I’m quite sure this had something to do with the kid gloves. Back when I was in the private sector, firing someone was the worst part of the job. I can only imagine doing it to this guy you just won an election with who has cancer in his lungs, liver, bones, and gall bladder. :/

https://www.washingtonian.com/2020/1...

Who cares? He did a bad thing, and needs to be punished. Now he can bankrupt his family instead of the government's health care insurance. Win-win!

I’m not saying he shouldn’t be fired. I’m saying my knives are sheathed in terms of those who hesitated to fire him. I don’t like to let righteousness completely blot out empathy.

Atras wrote:

Who cares? He did a bad thing, and needs to be punished.

Yeah, but everyone here has done something wrong on the job. There are varying severities of infraction and there should be varying intensities of punishment to account for that. His was serious enough to get fired. Should everyone involved be? I don’t really know the extent of what happened so I can’t say. But I will say, sawing off entire sections of your workforce three weeks in is not a way to engender buy-in among the remaining employees. Part of being not-Trump is also showing some empathy for your employees. Having a new press secretary every new moon is also very Trumpy.

Part of being non-Trump is not allowing privileged people to get away with privileged actions.

If we had universal healthcare and UBI this wouldn't even be part of the conversation. The guy would be ok until he took some training and got another job.

Mixolyde wrote:

Part of being non-Trump is not allowing privileged people to get away with privileged actions.

Would you say he got away with it? I think of getting away with something like this in the previous administration would result a fist-bump in the hallway.

That’s a low bar, but it was resolved in a few days.

As far as Biden himself and the “fire you on the spot” stuff, he wasn’t there, and this probably didn’t cross his desk until it was on TV.

No, I don't think he got away with it, I think being fired is the appropriate response.

I bristled at the, "let's be easier on the guy with cancer" thing. One, that's a slippery slope to start down to excusing bad behavior for unrelated things. Two, that's a reason to fix healthcare and the social safety net so the guy can be punished without it costing his life.

Understood. To be clear, I’m not saying they should have been easier on him. Firing him as soon as the facts were established would have been ideal. I’m saying I sympathize with his superiors not immediately sh*tcanning him, specifically because of the health factors. I also don’t think it’s quite fair to call them unrelated. Having such a serious illness probably means he’s on a lot of medications, which likely includes some behavioral alteration, and wound tight as a wire, making an inappropriate blowup more likely.

Hadn’t been following the Ducklo story closely but this is a cardinal sin in the PR industry. Ducklo would be out on his rear end at most organizations.

It was amateur-ish of him, as was his relationship, most like. So, perhaps for the best he is out the door.

garion333 wrote:

It was amateur-ish of him, as was his relationship, most like. So, perhaps for the best he is out the door.

Perhaps??

Natus wrote:
garion333 wrote:

It was amateur-ish of him, as was his relationship, most like. So, perhaps for the best he is out the door.

Perhaps??

I dunno, maybe he had some value, somewhere.

Seriously, if you're in PR and you threaten a reporter you might want to find a new career. Or lay off the white stuff.

garion333 wrote:
Natus wrote:
garion333 wrote:

It was amateur-ish of him, as was his relationship, most like. So, perhaps for the best he is out the door.

Perhaps??

I dunno, maybe he had some value, somewhere.

Seriously, if you're in PR and you threaten a reporter you might want to find a new career. Or lay off the white stuff.

He found one of Jr.'s secret stashes.

I didn't know there was an arcade version of Mario Kart. I also didn't know that the President of the United States was any good at it.

Rat Boy wrote:

I didn't know there was an arcade version of Mario Kart. I also didn't know that the President of the United States was any good at it.

Didn't know there was a new one. But the old one had tie in with the console version. You could take your memory card and unlock stuff. I spent a long time back in maybe 2007 trying to find one nearby that I could drive to and play for a day. But never did.

This is kind of totally like CJ Cregg trying to hold off Danny Redman, the reporter she was dating, as he chased down the story of the government’s involvement in the assassination of a Qumari official. So, West Wing win?