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Like 20 years, perhaps? After finding out what two white supremacist teenage boys with guns could do in Colorado?

The interesting bit for me is the flat 2-4 percent for very favorable. Makes me think there is a common mental condition that draws across the board.

18-30 range doesn't surprise. Young angry men have always been a prime radicalization group.

Tolerance is not a moral precept:

Tolerance is not a moral absolute; it is a peace treaty. Tolerance is a social norm because it allows different people to live side-by-side without being at each other’s throats. It means that we accept that people may be different from us, in their customs, in their behavior, in their dress, in their sex lives, and that if this doesn’t directly affect our lives, it is none of our business. But the model of a peace treaty differs from the model of a moral precept in one simple way: the protection of a peace treaty only extends to those willing to abide by its terms. It is an agreement to live in peace, not an agreement to be peaceful no matter the conduct of others. A peace treaty is not a suicide pact.

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All is forgiven then?

I mean I make the mistake all the time...

Hobear wrote:

I mean I make the mistake all the time...

Your bedroom is your business.

Mixolyde wrote:
Hobear wrote:

I mean I make the mistake all the time...

Your bedroom is your business.

Just in case anything is lost in translation. Full sarcasm

I have nowhere else to put this, but one certainly could argue that an obvious sign of how politically fractured our nation is that I, an 80's baby, have lived through 75% of this country's impeachments.

That dude is remarkable. I found his bravery moving.

SallyNasty wrote:

That dude is remarkable. I found his bravery moving.

Yup. The bill requires 2/3 of both houses of congress to pass though.

I am really not looking forward to the thinly disguised racist bullsh*t from Republicans about how this is "divisive" for why they can't give it to him.

Doxing Racists Is a 100-Year-Old American Tradition

On September 10, 1922, a criminal lawyer named Patrick H. O'Donnell wrote in the first issue of the newspaper Tolerance that his goal was to get the Ku Klux Klan out of Chicago. He was going to accomplish this goal, he said, by publishing the names of every Klan member he could.

"We feel that the publication of the names of those who belong to the Klan will be a blow that the masked organization cannot survive," O'Donnell predicted, as recounted in historian Kenneth T. Jackson's book The Ku Klux Klan in the City, 1915-1930. The logic, O'Donnell explained, was that many Klansmen depended upon Black people, Jews, and Catholics to earn a living. These groups that the Klan so loathed comprised approximately 85 percent of Chicago's population at the time.

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"We feel," O'Donnell continued, "that it is only just that their attitude be made public."

A week later, Tolerance published the names of 150 klansmen. The print run of 2,700 copies quickly sold out. The following week, a reprint of 17,500 copies once again flew off the newsstands. Within two months, thousands of names had been published. The president of a local bank resigned after he had been exposed as a Klansman and many of the bank's mostly Catholic and Jewish patrons withdrew their money. A milkman and grocer also publicly lamented the impact their outing as a secret racist had on their businesses.

Almost a century later, we find ourselves exposing the real names of members of hate groups—what we refer to today as "doxing," a term which originally referred to the documents hackers and online activists dumped online in order to identify and expose people they thought deserved the internet's attention. A surge of this activity has occurred in recent days as members of the public, outraged by the seeming lack of consequences for the rioters who sacked the Capitol, turn to the internet to identify some of the participants in hopes they are charged, fired from their jobs, or both. Any consequences, really, would do. Recently, hackers claimed to have downloaded the entire Parler archive for the purposes of revealing those who planned and participated in the Capitol putsch. Similarly, the Instagram account @homegrownterrorists is naming people seen at the Capitol in the mob on January 6.

Cockroaches run when you shine a light on them.

Of all the people in Hollywood that Qball attacked Franklin Leonard? Leonard's The Black List is an amazing platform for aspiring and established screenwriters.

OG_slinger wrote:

Of all the people in Hollywood that Qball attacked Franklin Leonard? Leonard's The Black List is an amazing platform for aspiring and established screenwriters.

It's probably an amazing platform for screenwriters with talent. Being impoverished in that area, Cornero probably hated the person who ran it.

Oof there's an actor named Roberto Cordero Jr. who is most definitely not this guy...

Not sure where else to put this, but this is a absolutely bugnuts story. It’s about the Dave Ramsey company, a “Christian” company that has had all kinds of abusive behavior come to light. Some highlights include:

At a staff meeting in July, Ramsey railed at his staff after an employee sued Ramsey Solutions for firing her for having premarital sex, which is against company policy, and said he would pay the price to protect what he had built out of love for his employees.
“I am sick of dealing with all this stuff,” Ramsey bellowed, according to a recording obtained by Religion News Service. “I’m so tired of being falsely accused of being a jerk when all I’m doing is trying to help people stay in line.”
In his 2011 book “EntreLeadership,” Ramsey recommends that companies vet spouses to make sure their hire is not “married to crazy.”
“When hiring someone, you are employing more than just the person,” his website advises. “You’re taking on the whole family. And when they are married to someone who is domineering, unstable or simply full of drama, you’ll end up with a team member who can’t be creative, productive or excellent.”
Doubts about the company began to creep in only after a 2014 incident that came to be known as “Twittergate.” After several anonymous Twitter accounts began to make fun of the company culture, the Daily Beast reported at the time, Dave Ramsey offered bounties during a staff meeting for anyone who would identify the tweeters.
The Daily Beast also reported that in 2011, Ramsey pulled out a gun to make a point about how much he hated gossip — a detail that a company official would later confirm in a deposition. Since that time, Ramsey has boasted to staff about carrying a gun at all times.
A week later, after meeting with two members of Ramsey’s operating board, O’Connor was fired for being pregnant and not married, according to the lawsuit. Board members and Lopez told her it was because she had violated the company’s code of conduct.
The lawsuit claims the company’s “righteous living” core value “discriminates against employees who do not strictly adhere to Ramsey’s interpretation of ‘Judeo-Christian’ values for non-work related behavior.”
Ramsey’s lawyers denied any discrimination. “Defendant admits that Plaintiff’s employment was terminated because she engaged in premarital sex,” which the company’s court filings said is a violation of its core values.
Ramsey told employees that the policies were necessary to maintain a predictable, safe and “godly” culture. Without them, he said, Ramsey would be just like any other company, a “cesspool” of sex and racism and #MeToo complaints. Sex outside of marriage is wrong, he told employees, according to a recording obtained by RNS.
“Don’t talk to me about how you love your pastor and your church. And I just moved in with my boyfriend,” he said. “That’s so freaking inconsistent and stupid.”

Not insane enough? Here’s the official response to the article from the company, during which they dox the reporter.

Sounds about right. But don't use your credit card.

Sad thing is, that company might win in court.

Burwell v. Hobby Lobby Stores, Inc.

Different in that it applies to businesses disobeying laws because of religious beliefs, but it does recognize that businesses can have religious beliefs, which is IMNSHO utterly koo-koo.

"Corporations are people, my friend."

Oh, Mittens.

BadKen wrote:

Oh, Mittens.

It still boggles my mind that Romney, and all his BS baggage and garbage, has somehow become the, “voice of reason” when it comes to Trump and the Republican Party.

Parler’s back up, now being hosted by the same company that hosts popular neo-nazi hangout Gab. I can’t imagine it will be as popular as before though, considering the site’s incompetence let antifascists get the gps coordinates of a lot of it’s old userbase.

Chances are pretty good that the Net community in general is going to make life very, very difficult for that host. The Internet is fundamentally a cooperative venture, and a lot of it may refuse to cooperate any further until Parler is gone.

edit: although, Stormfront is back up. I thought they had to go hide in the dark web, but they were only knocked offline for six or eight weeks. Parler might survive, too.

Yeah I came across the Dave Ramsey Article yesterday. I used to be a big fan but he is just a mini Trump. I sent all the information to my church and suggested we cut ties with any thing Ramsey related and find a new course to help teach financial help.

Returning to the office during the pandemic, however, Self became uncomfortable with the level of risk. People would lean over her desk to talk with her without masks, paying no heed to social distancing. Wearing a mask in the office, she said, was seen as a sign of distrust in the company’s leaders.

Snake handlers. They're bloody snake handlers.

I wonder if they even see the irony....

A Friday court filing by Matze [Parler's CEO] claimed that he has been forced to flee his home after receiving death threats in the wake of the riots.

His attorney, David Groesbeck, wrote in the document that Matze had to ‘go into hiding with his family after receiving death threats and invasive personal security breaches.’