NFL 2020: Week 17

garion333 wrote:

I'll be honest, I didn't realize there were any QBs other than Trevor Lawrence.

Wilson and Fields both are commonly mocked into the top 10.

I feel Wilson will hang onto that, while I felt Fields was more likely mid-to-late round material. Though this Clemson tape will no doubt help him.

Trey Lance is the wildcard. FCS guy with obvious 1st round caliber talent. FCS guys are hard enough to place, but one who had his last season cancelled after 1 game is brutal. He could go 10th or go out of the 1st round.

Jags are getting rid of Doug Marrone after the last game, and Urban Meyer reportedly is expected to receive the job offer and is preparing to hire a staff.

College coaches with no NFL experience have a high success rate, right?

I mean it's not another Mike Mularkey kind of hire so I shouldn't complain.

Nope, not going to do it until axes officially start dropping.

*Legion* wrote:

Jags are getting rid of Doug Marrone after the last game, and Urban Meyer reportedly is expected to receive the job offer and is preparing to hire a staff.

College coaches with no NFL experience have a high success rate, right?

I mean it's not another Mike Mularkey kind of hire so I shouldn't complain.

Harbaugh?*

*apart from some seasons as a QB coach 8 years prior

Harbaugh also got a good look at the NFL game from 14 years of playing quarterback.

The league has been trending towards hiring young guys that move up the ranks within the NFL. Shanahan, McVay, LaFleur, and everyone else in that hemisphere.

The big name hires of long-term college coaches with little to no NFL experience had seemingly fallen out of vogue after Spurrier, Chip, Petrino, Schiano, etc.

Though last year we got Kingsbury and this year we got Rhule, though the jury is still out on them. Both a lot younger than Meyer though, and at least touched the NFL to some degree at some point.

Yeah even Petrino had NFL assistant cred before he went back to college. Didn't help.

I mean does coaching with the Jags count?

Stele wrote:

I mean does coaching with the Jags count?

Mike Smith. Dirk Koetter. Bobby Petrino. A veritable head coaching factory!

Anyway, I just saw an article from earlier in the month, "4 former head coaches Jacksonville must pursue", and #3 was Bill O'Brien.

Someone actually wrote that down, put their name on it, and put it on the Internet for other people to see.

That's the wake-up call I need to stop complaining about the possible Urban Meyer hire. Clearly there are much dumber ways the Jaguars could Jag this up.

Hue Jackson is always out there!

Urban Meyer at least would be fun because he'll get a little more attention than most other coaches might.

Besides, if he wins, it'll be spectacular. And if he flames out, it'll be spectacular, too.

Mike Evans has had a day; he became the first player in NFL history to start a career with seven 1,000 yard seasons in a row. Then, he dropped an easy TD pass on his next target because his knee gave out, and he crumbled. No word yet, but it's a non-contact knee injury, and that's often not good.

I'm confused at Pitt resting starters instead of knocking a division rival out of the playoffs.

I don’t want to be a Jags fan this afternoon. Please Cleveland, don’t make me have to root for the Jags.

Stele wrote:

I'm confused at Pitt resting starters instead of knocking a division rival out of the playoffs.

Cause they'd rather play Cleveland than Baltimore?

UpToIsomorphism wrote:

I don’t want to be a Jags fan this afternoon. Please Cleveland, don’t make me have to root for the Jags.

I thought we was bros.

There's a headline on PFT that the Titans have put Teair Tart on the COVID-19 list and I initially read that as "Tear Taint" and was deeply disturbed for a moment at the incredibly-specific description of an injury description I thought I was reading.

Unhappy Geordi: Cleveland winning

Happy Geordi: Dallas losing

*Legion* wrote:
UpToIsomorphism wrote:

I don’t want to be a Jags fan this afternoon. Please Cleveland, don’t make me have to root for the Jags.

I thought we was bros.

We are. One year, you will have the nightmare of your teams playoff chances hanging by the strength of CLE winning. And that is a nightmare I can’t wish on anyone.

I'm now rooting for Jakobi Meyers, as he's become the new Mohammad Sanu minus receiving TDs.

Career receiving stats: 85/122 receptions/attempts, 1088 yards, but somehow 0 TDs after 2 years.
Career passing stats: 2/2 receptions/attempts, 23 yards, 2 TDs.

UpToIsomorphism wrote:
garion333 wrote:
UpToIsomorphism wrote:

Hats off to Mason Rudolph for getting the start.

Hats off, helmets on? Are you calling for a hit on Rudolph?

I’m not saying Miles Garrett should rip the helmet off the racist and beat him with it again. I’m just saying if someone less valuable it it, like a practice squad call-up for a COVID positive, I would be ok if that guy got a job as a low-level scout next year.

I'm not quite following. Are you suggesting that Mason Rudolph, who has never had any reported off-field problems with the Steelers, who had his head coach speak up vocally for him after last year's incident, is racist because Garrett claims he said a racist slur even though no one else around him heard it? It's fine if you want to root against the Steelers, but it'd be nice if you didn't try to manufacture outrage. That doesn't even get started on whether hearing a racist slur entitles you to rip off someone helmet during a game and try to hit them with it. Even Garrett's recollection of what happened is that he doesn't remember it very well but that it doesn't represent him as a person.

Hey Jags, you've already clinched the #1 pick. You don't have to keep tanking!

They want to make sure they have a new head coach also

NFL Playoffs on Nickelodeon next week.

WTF.

Does the winning coach get slime dumped on him...

The Browns are going to play in that game, aren’t we.

Soooooo 48 TDs for Rodgers pretty much locks that up.

And Herbert almost certainly gets ROTY despite Justin Jefferson being the better player imho.

garion333 wrote:

Soooooo 48 TDs for Rodgers pretty much locks that up.

And Herbert almost certainly gets ROTY despite Justin Jefferson being the better player imho.

Bye + home field Lambeau playoffs.

Very happy. Don't want to see the Bucs. Would love to run over the Saints in the snow.

garion333 wrote:

Soooooo 48 TDs for Rodgers pretty much locks that up.

And Herbert almost certainly gets ROTY despite Justin Jefferson being the better player imho.

Herbert's performance is the most surprising. Guy threw 66% his final year in Oregon with a million screen passes boosting that stat. Gets to the NFL and he's throwing 66% in an actual NFL offense. 288 passing yards per game. Herbert and Josh Allen are case studies in why teams will spend high picks on the big-body, big-arm passer even if they have accuracy and mechanical issues in college.

Justin Jefferson pisses me off because if not for him, Brandon Aiyuk would be PFF's top graded rookie WR. 748 yards in 11 starts. Can't wait to someday see a Kittle/Deebo/Aiyuk passing game in full action for the Niners...

Titans just doinked their way into an AFC South title. Wow.

Edit: It was a walk-off doink, too. DRAMA!

*Legion* wrote:
garion333 wrote:

Soooooo 48 TDs for Rodgers pretty much locks that up.

And Herbert almost certainly gets ROTY despite Justin Jefferson being the better player imho.

Herbert's performance is the most surprising. Guy threw 66% his final year in Oregon with a million screen passes boosting that stat. Gets to the NFL and he's throwing 66% in an actual NFL offense. 288 passing yards per game. Herbert and Josh Allen are case studies in why teams will spend high picks on the big-body, big-arm passer even if they have accuracy and mechanical issues in college.

Justin Jefferson pisses me off because if not for him, Brandon Aiyuk would be PFF's top graded rookie WR. 748 yards in 11 starts. Can't wait to someday see a Kittle/Deebo/Aiyuk passing game in full action for the Niners...

Herbert being good as a rookie is more shocking than Josh Allen being one three seasons in.

Who will throw passes to the Niners' trio?

Heading into tonight's DC-PHI game:

AFC: Chiefs have the bye; Colts, Titans, Bills, Steelers, Ravens and Browns are also in; 10-6 Dolphins are out

NFC: Packers got the bye; Seahawks, Rams, Saints, Bucs and Bears are also in. Last spot comes down to DC (if they win tonight) or the Giants (if Washington loses); Cardinals are out.

Edit: Here's the AFC bracket ...

No. 5 Ravens at No. 4 Titans; winner plays at No. 1 KC

No 6 Browns at No 3 Steelers (week 17 rematch)

No. 7 Colts at No. 2 Bills

... no game dates or times yet, but we'll be getting 3 games on Saturday and Sunday. Game times for both days are 1, 4-ish and 8-ish. Buckle up!

garion333 wrote:

Who will throw passes to the Niners' trio?

Josh Rosen obviously.

Jets fire Gase. You know you've been waiting for this!