Star Wars Misc. Catch-All

Stengah wrote:

I wouldn't expect anything more from Maul. His story was given a rather definite ending in Rebels and they didn't leave much of an opening to explore what he was doing between the events of season 7 of Clone Wars and when he shows up in Rebels.

The Solo ending left an opening.

Maul will most likely be in the Ahsoka series. Kenobi series is also likely to have Mail. Maul will also be in any kind of sequel to Solo, which at this point doesn’t seem likely, so l’ll just say that if they explore the Red Dawn syndicate’s story, expect Maul.

RawkGWJ wrote:

Maul will most likely be in the Ahsoka series. Kenobi series is also likely to have Mail. Maul will also be in any kind of sequel to Solo, which at this point doesn’t seem likely, so l’ll just say that if they explore the Red Dawn syndicate’s story, expect Maul.

If they do anything with the Red Dawn syndicate story, sure, but Maul can't really be in either of the other shows.

Spoiler:

Kenobi killed Maul in Rebels, and Ashoka's series is set after that. It was bad enough that they brought him back in Clone Wars, even if they did make very good use of him. Doing so a second time would be ridiculous, and a complete waste of the satisfying ending they gave him. As for the Kenobi series, Rebels also established that Maul was unable to find even a hint of where Kenobi was hiding until he tricked Ezra into helping him, and this is going to be set several years before that.

Stengah wrote:
RawkGWJ wrote:

Maul will most likely be in the Ahsoka series. Kenobi series is also likely to have Mail. Maul will also be in any kind of sequel to Solo, which at this point doesn’t seem likely, so l’ll just say that if they explore the Red Dawn syndicate’s story, expect Maul.

If they do anything with the Red Dawn syndicate story, sure, but Maul can't really be in either of the other shows.

Spoiler:

Kenobi killed Maul in Rebels, and Ashoka's series is set after that. It was bad enough that they brought him back in Clone Wars, even if they did make very good use of him. Doing so a second time would be ridiculous, and a complete waste of the satisfying ending they gave him. As for the Kenobi series, Rebels also established that Maul was unable to find even a hint of where Kenobi was hiding until he tricked Ezra into helping him, and this is going to be set several years before that.

Spoiler:

Yeah, that death by vertical slice was pretty definitive. Worked better than the horizontal slice.

As far as timeline goes, Maul is a possibility in Kenobi and Bad Batch... I think. Possibly others as well. If Ahsoka series occurs during The Mandelorian time line then that’s too late, but if that series happens earlier...?

Spoiler:

No reason to think Maul couldn't come back in ghost form, though

RawkGWJ wrote:

As far as timeline goes, Maul is a possibility in Kenobi and Bad Batch... I think. Possibly others as well. If Ahsoka series occurs during The Mandelorian time line then that’s too late, but if that series happens earlier...?

Spoiler:

The timeline may allow it, but it's already canon that it can't. Maul had no idea Kenobi was on Tatooine, and the Kenobi series is supposedly going to take place entirely on Tatooine. Old Ben can't exactly go galivanting off planet and leave Luke unguarded.

He could be in Bad Batch, but not as a main enemy. It's too much of a power imbalance: 5 clones would pose no threat him should they ever get in a fight. Ashoka's series is going to be about her (and Sabine Wren's) search for Ezra and Thrawn, so no possibility for Maul there. Beyond that, what purpose would more Maul serve? They already gave him a great story and more than made up for how poorly they utilized him in The Phantom Menace. I think they ought to let the poor Dathomiri finally rest and only use him again if it's actually appropriate to.

Stengah wrote:
RawkGWJ wrote:

As far as timeline goes, Maul is a possibility in Kenobi and Bad Batch... I think. Possibly others as well. If Ahsoka series occurs during The Mandelorian time line then that’s too late, but if that series happens earlier...?

Spoiler:

The timeline may allow it, but it's already canon that it can't. Maul had no idea Kenobi was on Tatooine, and the Kenobi series is supposedly going to take place entirely on Tatooine. Old Ben can't exactly go galivanting off planet and leave Luke unguarded.

He could be in Bad Batch, but not as a main enemy. It's too much of a power imbalance: 5 clones would pose no threat him should they ever get in a fight. Ashoka's series is going to be about her (and Sabine Wren's) search for Ezra and Thrawn, so no possibility for Maul there. Beyond that, what purpose would more Maul serve? They already gave him a great story and more than made up for how poorly they utilized him in The Phantom Menace. I think they ought to let the poor Dathomiri finally rest and only use him again if it's actually appropriate to.

Spoiler:

Wait, did you not just watch the video I posted where Maul died at Kenobi's hand ON Tatooine?

MannishBoy wrote:
Stengah wrote:
RawkGWJ wrote:

As far as timeline goes, Maul is a possibility in Kenobi and Bad Batch... I think. Possibly others as well. If Ahsoka series occurs during The Mandelorian time line then that’s too late, but if that series happens earlier...?

Spoiler:

The timeline may allow it, but it's already canon that it can't. Maul had no idea Kenobi was on Tatooine, and the Kenobi series is supposedly going to take place entirely on Tatooine. Old Ben can't exactly go galivanting off planet and leave Luke unguarded.

He could be in Bad Batch, but not as a main enemy. It's too much of a power imbalance: 5 clones would pose no threat him should they ever get in a fight. Ashoka's series is going to be about her (and Sabine Wren's) search for Ezra and Thrawn, so no possibility for Maul there. Beyond that, what purpose would more Maul serve? They already gave him a great story and more than made up for how poorly they utilized him in The Phantom Menace. I think they ought to let the poor Dathomiri finally rest and only use him again if it's actually appropriate to.

Spoiler:

Wait, did you not just watch the video I posted where Maul died at Kenobi's hand ON Tatooine?

Spoiler:

Yes, as I mentioned in my previous post, Rebels established that he had no idea where Kenobi was hiding until Ezra helps him. It's a complete revelation to him that Kenobi went back to where it all started for them, indicating that he never went to Tatooine prior to that. He only goes to Tatooine to die, and the Kenobi series is set years before that.

Stengah wrote:

Ashoka's series is going to be about her (and Sabine Wren's) search for Ezra and Thrawn

Oh sh*t I didn't know this. Now I'm more excited. Loved Rebels but something was off about the finale and that will fix some of it.

Stengah wrote:
Spoiler:

Yes, as I mentioned in my previous post, Rebels established that he had no idea where Kenobi was hiding until Ezra helps him. It's a complete revelation to him that Kenobi went back to where it all started for them, indicating that he never went to Tatooine prior to that. He only goes to Tatooine to die, and the Kenobi series is set years before that.

Sorry, misunderstood. But do we officially know when the Kenobi series is set? Luke was alive when that happened in Rebels.

Stele wrote:
Stengah wrote:

Ashoka's series is going to be about her (and Sabine Wren's) search for Ezra and Thrawn

Oh sh*t I didn't know this. Now I'm more excited. Loved Rebels but something was off about the finale and that will fix some of it.

That's not confirmed at all. Just my assumption based on the epilogue of Rebels and her still looking for Thrawn in her guest spot on Mandalorian.

MannishBoy wrote:

But do we officially know when the Kenobi series is set? Luke was alive when that happened in Rebels.

The Disney Investor Day announcement a few days ago said 10 years after Revenge of the Sith, which is 9 years before A New Hope, so 7 years before that part of Rebels. They're also reportedly casting a young boy & girl who would be Luke & Leia's age, but the rumor stops short of saying it's for those roles, and none of it's been confirmed.

Stengah wrote:

The Disney Investor Day announcement a few days ago said 10 years after Revenge of the Sith, which is 9 years before A New Hope, so 7 years before that part of Rebels. They're also reportedly casting a young boy & girl who would be Luke & Leia's age, but the rumor stops short of saying it's for those roles, and none of it's been confirmed.

Ooh! What if Ahsoka’s series is about her protecting Leah, and Kenobi is about him protecting Luke?

We already know it's not. Ashoka and the Rangers of the New Republic are both set at the same time as the Mandalorian series, and supposedly there will be a big crossover event with all three. Besides, she was safe with the Organa family on Alderaan.

Stengah wrote:

Besides, she was safe with the Organa family on Alderaan.

Security by obscurity. If there was a former Jedi hanging around both of them, it might be a tip off.

MannishBoy wrote:
Stengah wrote:

Besides, she was safe with the Organa family on Alderaan.

Security by obscurity. If there was a former Jedi hanging around both of them, it might be a tip off. :)

I don't know that sticking her with the royal family counts as "obscurity," ha ha.

Come to think of it, how did that work? Was it public knowledge that she was adopted? It's hard to imagine, say, the British royal family suddenly having a baby around that they call a princess with no questions asked.

"Yup, I was totes pregnant. You just didn't notice because you were all busy watching cricket. Can we move on?"

Did Bail pull a Ned Stark and try to pass her off as a bastard by some mysterious mistress that nobody ever met?

Read Leia Princess of Alderaan for answers to those questions.

karmajay wrote:

Read Leia Princess of Alderaan for answers to those questions.

That would take too long. Just tell me.

It was public knowledge that she was adopted.

karmajay wrote:

Read Leia Princess of Alderaan for answers to those questions.

How DARE you suggest someone be required to read other works to answer questions such as these. InconCEIVABLE

thrawn82 wrote:
karmajay wrote:

Read Leia Princess of Alderaan for answers to those questions.

How DARE you suggest someone be required to read other works to answer questions such as these. InconCEIVABLE Incontheivable.

FTFY

Tanglebones wrote:
Spoiler:

No reason to think Maul couldn't come back in ghost form, though

This might be old EU stuff, but I thought that Force ghosts started with Qui Gon and that he only passed that knowledge on to a few others: Kenobi and Yoda, with one of them later teaching it to Anakin. Is that still correct? If so, I don't see the person in your spoiler as part of that succession of knowledge.

ClockworkHouse wrote:
Tanglebones wrote:
Spoiler:

No reason to think Maul couldn't come back in ghost form, though

This might be old EU stuff, but I thought that Force ghosts started with Qui Gon and that he only passed that knowledge on to a few others: Kenobi and Yoda, with one of them later teaching it to Anakin. Is that still correct? If so, I don't see the person in your spoiler as part of that succession of knowledge.

Also I believe force ghosts have also been all light side? Including Anakin at his death.

EDIT: I'm wrong.

MannishBoy wrote:

EDIT: I'm wrong.

Eh that's all expanded legacy stuff that isn't canon anymore as far as I can tell.

ClockworkHouse wrote:
Tanglebones wrote:
Spoiler:

No reason to think Maul couldn't come back in ghost form, though

This might be old EU stuff, but I thought that Force ghosts started with Qui Gon and that he only passed that knowledge on to a few others: Kenobi and Yoda, with one of them later teaching it to Anakin. Is that still correct? If so, I don't see the person in your spoiler as part of that succession of knowledge.

So far as I know that's correct. Qui Gon discovered it, and his ghost taught it to Yoda and Obi Wan. I don't think they ever covered who taught Anakin, Luke, or Leia.

I suspect it wasn't originally meant to be a learned skill, but then Lucas decided he didn't want other people going HAM with ancient force ghosts so he put a relatively recent start-date on it.

Though I guess Rise of Skywalker kind of put that back on the table.

Vargen wrote:

I suspect it wasn't originally meant to be a learned skill, but then Lucas decided he didn't want other people going HAM with ancient force ghosts so he put a relatively recent start-date on it.

Though I guess Rise of Skywalker kind of put that back on the table.

Maybe. What Palpatine did was transfer his spirit into another body while he was still alive. Retaining ones consciousness after death and being able to manifest and communicate with the living is still a light side only power and requires complete selflessness. The most dark side adherants can do is bind their spirit to an object before they die. They can possess people, but they're still bound to their object. It's possible that a dark side spirit who is bound to an object could try to do what Palpatine was attempting, but they've not explored if or how that would work.

It's getting a little freaky up in here.

Looks like Rogue Squadron is for me: Rogue One and Empire I have a hard time choosing between as my favorite SW film, and I don’t give a crap about any EU stuff.

https://screenrant.com/star-wars-rog...

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