The Some Like It HOT TAKES thread

Hot Take.

There are no hot takes because people get too easily offended nowadays so a real hot take would either be shunned, or sent to the depths of DnD. As a result our hot takes go back to the comfortable and banal like IPAs and Hipsters.

Carlbear95 wrote:

Hot Take.

There are no hot takes because people get too easily offended nowadays so a real hot take would either be shunned, or sent to the depths of DnD. As a result our hot takes go back to the comfortable and banal like IPAs and Hipsters.

That sounds like something a hipster would say.

Hot take: gaijins put too much wasabi on sushi.

fenomas wrote:

Hot take: gaijins put too much wasabi on sushi.

Wait I'm not supposed to dunk my california, dragon, rainbow cream cheese and fried chicken roll into that mountain of wasabi?

DSGamer wrote:
Carlbear95 wrote:

Hot Take.

There are no hot takes because people get too easily offended nowadays so a real hot take would either be shunned, or sent to the depths of DnD. As a result our hot takes go back to the comfortable and banal like IPAs and Hipsters.

That sounds like something a hipster would say.

Younger than 40
Liberal Arts Major
Facial Hair
Thinks can hear the difference in vinyl vs. mp3
Hates (or just says) sports ball
Thinks macs are superior to windows pc
Like IPAs

Lives in "liberal elite" city

I only hit on 1 of the 8 qualifiers, so nope, not hipster here.

Carlbear95 wrote:
fenomas wrote:

Hot take: gaijins put too much wasabi on sushi.

Wait I'm not supposed to dunk my california, dragon, rainbow cream cheese and fried chicken roll into that mountain of wasabi?

Only if the wasabi is mixed with equal parts mayonnaise and sriracha (as is the traditional way).

I can hear the difference in vinyl vs. mp3; vinyl sounds worse. Vinyl isn't "warm", it's scratchy, hissy, and crappy, and the moment I had cassette tapes available as a teenager I threw my vinyl out and never went back.

Vinyl SUCKS.

Carlbear95 wrote:

Younger than 40
Liberal Arts Major
Facial Hair
Thinks can hear the difference in vinyl vs. mp3
Hates (or just says) sports ball
Thinks macs are superior to windows pc
Like IPAs

Lives in "liberal elite" city

I only hit on 1 of the 8 qualifiers, so nope, not hipster here.

*takes off coat* Ahh there we go. Now we're cooking with takes.

MilkmanDanimal wrote:

I can hear the difference in vinyl vs. mp3; vinyl sounds worse. Vinyl isn't "warm", it's scratchy, hissy, and crappy, and the moment I had cassette tapes available as a teenager I threw my vinyl out and never went back.

Vinyl SUCKS.

Vinyl depends on the quality of your hardware to a much higher degree than digital formats do (though the difference between a premium DAC and the one in your phone is also appreciable). Not to mention how anal you've been about maintaining the record itself - a f*cked up record sounds f*cked up.

Vinyl on a crappy turntable with a crappy pre-amp sounds awful. Vinyl on a really nice turntable with a nice pre-amp isn't even the same sound.

My wife and I have done blind listenings to the same record on my mid-range turntable and hifi vs the mp3 copy vs the lossless copy. Every time we could pick out the record (and not because of pops or crackles), and it's a toss-up whether there's even a perceptible difference between the lossy and lossless files.

TheHarpoMarxist wrote:
Aaron D. wrote:

Dunking on IPAs as a sport is more hipster than those supposed IPA hipsters.

"Hipster" is a catch-all term to refer to people who are younger than us that we don't like for spurious reasons.

Maybe in NYC or maybe now, but when the hipster craze began the wanna be hipster crowd was actually well off people in their 20's who were trying to dress like my actual art friends (who were in their 20's) and broke af. They'd show up to my friends' art shows with PBR and slam them like it was a kegger.

Jonman wrote:
MilkmanDanimal wrote:

I can hear the difference in vinyl vs. mp3; vinyl sounds worse. Vinyl isn't "warm", it's scratchy, hissy, and crappy, and the moment I had cassette tapes available as a teenager I threw my vinyl out and never went back.

Vinyl SUCKS.

Vinyl depends on the quality of your hardware to a much higher degree than digital formats do (though the difference between a premium DAC and the one in your phone is also appreciable). Not to mention how anal you've been about maintaining the record itself - a f*cked up record sounds f*cked up.

Vinyl on a crappy turntable with a crappy pre-amp sounds awful. Vinyl on a really nice turntable with a nice pre-amp isn't even the same sound.

My wife and I have done blind listenings to the same record on my mid-range turntable and hifi vs the mp3 copy vs the lossless copy. Every time we could pick out the record (and not because of pops or crackles), and it's a toss-up whether there's even a perceptible difference between the lossy and lossless files.

Back in the late 80s, I had a walkman and a deep love of hair metal, and damaged my hearing blasting Cinderella, Tesla, and W.A.S.P., so I can't tell the difference with better audio equipment.

Not Hot Take--those bands were not worth hearing damage.

HOT TAKE - Vinyl is the PC gaming of audio. It costs way more, requires endless tinkering and eldritch incantations for marginal and questionable improvements, and you'll have to take it from it's proponents' cold, dead hands.

Carlbear95 wrote:
DSGamer wrote:
Carlbear95 wrote:

Hot Take.

There are no hot takes because people get too easily offended nowadays so a real hot take would either be shunned, or sent to the depths of DnD. As a result our hot takes go back to the comfortable and banal like IPAs and Hipsters.

That sounds like something a hipster would say.

Younger than 40
Liberal Arts Major
Facial Hair
Thinks can hear the difference in vinyl vs. mp3
Hates (or just says) sports ball
Thinks macs are superior to windows pc
Like IPAs

Lives in "liberal elite" city

I only hit on 1 of the 8 qualifiers, so nope, not hipster here.

See. That's what the ultimate hipster would do, would be to flip the script and not be like all the things we typically think a hipster is. How hipster of you to out-hipster hipster expectations.

Yeah, most of that is an old outdated hipster list anyway. Carl probably found it while thrifting, the hipster.

DSGamer wrote:

See. That's what the ultimate hipster would do, would be to flip the script and not be like all the things we typically think a hipster is. How hipster of you to out-hipster hipster expectations.

Lol I see what you're doing here DSGamer.

However, the ultimate proof of me not being a hipster? I'm not going to be pulled into an argument, because the ultimate sign of being a Hipster is being argumentative when you are being called a hipster

A_Unicycle wrote:

Hades doesn't function at all as a roguelike. [...]

It's a RPG first and foremost. You don't get rewarded for expert game-knowledge and quick reflexes, you get rewarded for grinding resources, levels and upgrades.

Isn't that basically the whole roguelite genre in a nutshell? And isn't that part of the appeal for players: you can eventually just grind for upgrades and start your "run" with so many advantages that you're more likely to finish?

Carlbear95 wrote:

Hot Take.

There are no hot takes because people get too easily offended nowadays so a real hot take would either be shunned, or sent to the depths of DnD. As a result our hot takes go back to the comfortable and banal like IPAs and Hipsters.

Opinions are like assholes. Straight guys usually have sh*tty ones, but no one wants to deal with the fallout of actually telling them.

Carlbear95 wrote:
DSGamer wrote:

See. That's what the ultimate hipster would do, would be to flip the script and not be like all the things we typically think a hipster is. How hipster of you to out-hipster hipster expectations.

Lol I see what you're doing here DSGamer.

However, the ultimate proof of me not being a hipster? I'm not going to be pulled into an argument, because the ultimate sign of being a Hipster is being argumentative when you are being called a hipster

Good call.

Anyway, I'm not going to argue with you about whether we should argue. We already have a thread for that.

TheHarpoMarxist wrote:

"Hipster" is a catch-all term to refer to people who are younger than us that we don't like for spurious reasons.

This is such a great definition of hipster.

RawkGWJ wrote:
TheHarpoMarxist wrote:

"Hipster" is a catch-all term to refer to people who are younger than us that we don't like for spurious reasons.

This is such a great definition of hipster.

Younger than 40
Liberal Arts Major
Facial Hair
Thinks can hear the difference in vinyl vs. mp3
Hates (or just says) sports ball
Thinks macs are superior to windows pc
Like IPAs
Lives in "liberal elite" city

Do any of these look spurious to you?

ClockworkHouse wrote:
A_Unicycle wrote:

Hades doesn't function at all as a roguelike. [...]

It's a RPG first and foremost. You don't get rewarded for expert game-knowledge and quick reflexes, you get rewarded for grinding resources, levels and upgrades.

Isn't that basically the whole roguelite genre in a nutshell? And isn't that part of the appeal for players: you can eventually just grind for upgrades and start your "run" with so many advantages that you're more likely to finish?

Basically, yes.

I think folks also enjoy the synergies between certain weapons, powers, armor, effects, etc. Those types of unlocks don't really give you a win just by playing long enough (see: Gungeon).

Carlbear95 wrote:
RawkGWJ wrote:
TheHarpoMarxist wrote:

"Hipster" is a catch-all term to refer to people who are younger than us that we don't like for spurious reasons.

This is such a great definition of hipster.

Younger than 40
Liberal Arts Major
Facial Hair
Thinks can hear the difference in vinyl vs. mp3
Hates (or just says) sports ball
Thinks macs are superior to windows pc
Like IPAs
Lives in "liberal elite" city

Do any of these look spurious to you?

Yeah. They do. But only because they are a short list of a much larger list of spurious traits that we assign to the so called hipsters. The list is long and it contradicts itself from start to finish. It ends up amounting to a catch-all term to refer to people who are younger than us that we don't like for spurious reasons.

Younger than 40
Liberal Arts Major
Facial Hair
Thinks can hear the difference in vinyl vs. mp3
Hates (or just says) sports ball
Thinks macs are superior to windows pc
Like IPAs
Lives in "liberal elite" city

I'm twice the hipster CarlBear is!

Younger than 40
Liberal Arts Major
Facial Hair
Thinks can hear the difference in vinyl vs. mp3
Hates (or just says) sports ball
Thinks macs are superior to windows pc
Like IPAs
Lives in "liberal elite" city

I think it's less of a checklist and more of a points system - each of those is worth one point, and anyone over a certain threshold qualifies.

Also: "lives in Portland OR" is nineteen million points.

MilkmanDanimal wrote:

I can hear the difference in vinyl vs. mp3; vinyl sounds worse. Vinyl isn't "warm", it's scratchy, hissy, and crappy, and the moment I had cassette tapes available as a teenager I threw my vinyl out and never went back.

Vinyl SUCKS.

It absolutely does. However, with digital music, the Loudness Wars have really wrecked mixing, with many mix engineers pushing mixes way past clipping, often for most of the track, to try to increase the perceived loudness. (which translates to popularity on the radio; the louder a song seems, generally, the better it does commercially.)

They can't do that sh*t on vinyl, because if they try, the needle will jump the groove. So what you end up with is a relatively crappy reproduction, degrading over time, of a mix that's forced to be somewhat sensible. This is sometimes superior to a perfect reproduction of a sh*t mix.

What people really want, even if they don't know it, is the vinyl mix on CD.

(and this is a take so cold I should probably be banned from this thread.)

Malor wrote:

What people really want, even if they don't know it, is the vinyl mix on CD.

(and this is a take so cold I should probably be banned from this thread.)

Hmm, legitimate criticism, sensible arguments, viable solution to the problem...

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Peak loudness wars are in the past, though. Digital storefronts and streaming services either reject for forcibly reduce the volume of anything mastered above a certain threshold. As a result, peak loudness has overall declined and dynamic ranges have crept back up in mixes.

Granted, in pop music, there's still plenty of brickwall mixes that just get turned into quieter brickwalls once they go online, but we still don't see the mass brickwalling of music that we did in the mid-00s.

Malor wrote:

They can't do that sh*t on vinyl, because if they try, the needle will jump the groove. So what you end up with is a relatively crappy reproduction, degrading over time, of a mix that's forced to be somewhat sensible. This is sometimes superior to a perfect reproduction of a sh*t mix.

What people really want, even if they don't know it, is the vinyl mix on CD.

(and this is a take so cold I should probably be banned from this thread.)

Believe it or not, I once had a bookshelf stereo unit that was so loud that the CD would skip during the most bombastic tracks.

What people really want is the vinyl mix? Yes. I would largely agree with this. There is an Arcade Fire album called The Suburbs where the band insisted that the digital streaming tracks were recorded from a vinyl pressing played through speakers. I love the way it sounds.

*Legion* wrote:

Peak loudness wars are in the past, though. Digital storefronts and streaming services either reject for forcibly reduce the volume of anything mastered above a certain threshold. As a result, peak loudness has overall declined and dynamic ranges have crept back up in mixes.

Granted, in pop music, there's still plenty of brickwall mixes that just get turned into quieter brickwalls once they go online, but we still don't see the mass brickwalling of music that we did in the mid-00s.

So what you're saying is that in the cultural moment when the vinyl resurrection is at its peak and the vinyl evangelists are feeling the most vindicated, the actual difference between vinyl and digital is narrower than ever? That's funny.

Isn't that basically the whole roguelite genre in a nutshell? And isn't that part of the appeal for players: you can eventually just grind for upgrades and start your "run" with so many advantages that you're more likely to finish?

I've played a fair few roguelites and none have this level of persistent upgrading. Little perks here and there, sure, but not a scaling damage/health/stat system that actively gates your progress to this level.

ClockworkHouse wrote:

So what you're saying is that in the cultural moment when the vinyl resurrection is at its peak and the vinyl evangelists are feeling the most vindicated, the actual difference between vinyl and digital is narrower than ever? That's funny.

Let's put it this way: my hot take is that vinyl is the Amiibo of music. Their main use is to be collectables put on display, and their supposed functionality is a silly and inconvenient novelty version of something done better the normal way.