[Discussion] Hope to Remember The Trump Administration Thread as being 'transparent and honest'

Let's follow and discuss what our newest presidential administration gets up to, the good, the bad, the lawsuits, and the many many indictments.

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I honestly hope that a Biden administration takes seriously the war we are currently in. The Soviets hit us with a Pearl Harbor attack four years ago with what they themselves describe as "information warfare" and we have spent the last four years pretending that nothing is happening. I sure as f*cks hope we nuke the f*ck out of them with info attacks of our own.

Flynn is a f*cking traitor. He, by his own admission, worked for the interest of a hostile, nuclear armed mafia state that attacked us in an unprovoked act of war. He deserves the noose.

"Unprovoked" information war is probably a stretch, but they certainly upped the stakes.

Mixolyde wrote:

"Unprovoked" information war is probably a stretch, but they certainly upped the stakes.

Yeah. The story I’ve heard is that the U.S. started it, then bungled it so badly that the foreign counter hackers knew instantly that the US was behind the cyber attack. Something akin to, “United States Cyber Attack Team” being posted right at the top of the code sheet. That was under the Obama administration.

Chairman_Mao wrote:

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"Trump pardons Agent of Turkey, also Holiday Bird"

"Trump Pardons Goebbels and Gobbles"

RawkGWJ wrote:
Mixolyde wrote:

"Unprovoked" information war is probably a stretch, but they certainly upped the stakes.

Yeah. The story I’ve heard is that the U.S. started it, then bungled it so badly that the foreign counter hackers knew instantly that the US was behind the cyber attack. Something akin to, “United States Cyber Attack Team” being posted right at the top of the code sheet. That was under the Obama administration.

From what I've heard, a large part of it had to do with Putin's vendetta against Hillary Clinton. There were a lot of public demonstrations against him while she was Secretary of State and he's convinced that she astroturfed them instead of the possibility that the Russian people decided themselves to protest against him. Interefering with the 2016 election was his way of doing the same thing back to her.

welp... this has aged well

Great article about what happened in Michigan. Some good insights about the state of the GOP falling to Trumpism. And I just love the money quote from the Mich GOP leaders meeting with Trump:

“I don’t get it,” the president said, venting confusion and frustration. “All these other Republicans, all over the country, they all win their races. And I’m the only guy that loses?”

He answered his own question in the same few sentences/quote.

I believe the correct response is "Yep" on a few different levels...

FiveIron wrote:

welp... this has aged well Inion video

this is ridiculous. Richard Burr has never been as self aware as his caricature here.

Stele wrote:

Great article about what happened in Michigan. Some good insights about the state of the GOP falling to Trumpism. And I just love the money quote from the Mich GOP leaders meeting with Trump:

“I don’t get it,” the president said, venting confusion and frustration. “All these other Republicans, all over the country, they all win their races. And I’m the only guy that loses?”

Great article. It's long, but worth it. Thanks for linking.

Trump moves to strip job protections from White House budget analysts as he races to transform civil service

Washington Post wrote:

The outgoing Trump administration is racing to enact the biggest change to the federal civil service in generations, reclassifying career employees at key agencies to strip their job protections and leave them open to being fired before Joe Biden takes office.

The move to pull off an executive order the president issued less than two weeks before Election Day — affecting tens of thousands of people in policy roles — is accelerating at the agency closest to the White House, the Office of Management and Budget.

The budget office sent a list this week of roles identified by its politically appointed leaders to the federal personnel agency for final sign-off. The list comprises 88 percent of its workforce — 425 analysts and other experts who would shift into a new job classification called Schedule F.

The employees would then be vulnerable to dismissal before Trump leaves office if they are considered poor performers or have resisted executing the president’s priorities, effectively turning them into political appointees that come and go with each administration.

The Office of Personnel Management is also rushing to shuffle many of its own roughly 3,500 employees into the new category, a senior administration official said. Other agencies are pulling together lists of policy roles, too — but the budget and personnel offices volunteered to be test cases for the controversial policy, this official said, speaking on the condition of anonymity to discuss internal administration deliberations.

By fast-tracking a process that gave agencies until Jan. 19 to identify affected jobs, the administration appears to be signaling its intent to leave as big an imprint as possible on a workforce it has long mistrusted. Democrats on Capitol Hill are trying to block the effort.

The White House budget office acts as the nerve center of the government, an elite career workforce that prepares and helps administer the annual spending plan and helps set fiscal and personnel policy for federal agencies. Its analysts are generally mission-driven, and they provide vast institutional memory and expertise for a president, regardless of party.

And in pointlessly dragging out the election news, the Wisconsin recount the Trump campaign paid $3 million for has so far resulted in Biden gaining 132 votes.

I'm confused by the efforts surrounding Schedule F classification. They were instituted by executive order, so can't they just be rolled back in January? Can't people fired for being disloyal to Trump just be given their old jobs back? I don't understand how this results in Trump leaving a lasting mark on those offices.

You're assuming this is a thought-out plan?

ClockworkHouse wrote:

I'm confused by the efforts surrounding Schedule F classification. They were instituted by executive order, so can't they just be rolled back in January? Can't people fired for being disloyal to Trump just be given their old jobs back? I don't understand how this results in Trump leaving a lasting mark on those offices.

It can be rolled back in January. But then you have to hope that the people who got canned for not being loyal enough to Trump haven't realized they could make more money in the private sector, resulting in yet another drain of priceless experience and expertise.

And the flip side to the executive order is that the Trump administration can replace the people it fires with Trump loyalists. If the Biden administration immediately reverses the EO then it will be much more difficult for Trump's Deep State plants to be fired because those jobs will once again be protected.

ClockworkHouse wrote:

I'm confused by the efforts surrounding Schedule F classification. They were instituted by executive order, so can't they just be rolled back in January? Can't people fired for being disloyal to Trump just be given their old jobs back? I don't understand how this results in Trump leaving a lasting mark on those offices.

Jonman wrote:

You're assuming this is a thought-out plan?

I’m pretty sure the plan is to sow chaos and piss on every last inch of the White House. Mission accomplished!

So the strategy would be to fire anyone who came in new between Trump's EO and January 20 and then reverse the EO. Would Biden play that game though? No idea.

edit: I'm just repeating Bekkilyn with different words, nevermind.

bekkilyn wrote:

So the strategy would be to fire anyone who came in new between Trump's EO and January 20 and then reverse the EO. Would Biden play that game though? No idea.

If I were Biden, one of the things I'd be doing right now is having my people assemble a complete list of everyone hired and fired from major or otherwise important positions during the last four years. On the day I took office, I'd summarily fire pretty much every Trump appointee with the option to reapply based on merit if the person Trump fired wasn't available to return to their post. Sure, there would be some chaos, but surely nothing worse than allowing those lunatics to remain in positions of influence for a minute longer than necessary.

I'd also pretend that I was signing a pardon for Trump, and then when I held it up for the camera, it would just be a picture of the Joker with "Why so serious?" on it.

Make sure to use a sharpie.

If he’s trying to buy votes he’s doing it wrong but also inefficiently.

Now that he has proven that people have paid money to change the vote count in favor of Biden, it must be time for another Giuliani press conference.

FiveIron wrote:

If he’s trying to buy votes he’s doing it wrong but also inefficiently.

Starting to understand how this guy bankrupted casinos.

r013nt0 wrote:
FiveIron wrote:

If he’s trying to buy votes he’s doing it wrong but also inefficiently.

Starting to understand how this guy bankrupted casinos.

Is he using recounts to laundry russian mob money?

thrawn82 wrote:

Is he using recounts to laundry russian mob money?

8th dimensional laundering.

r013nt0 wrote:
thrawn82 wrote:

Is he using recounts to laundry russian mob money?

8th dimensional laundering.

The Latrine's Gambit

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Love it!

5 more executions scheduled now through January. First woman in 70 years, first to commit a crime at 18 in 50 years. Maybe never had a lame duck execution before?

Lots of objections due to maturity, psychological issues, and in a couple cases being accessories to murder, while the other person in the crime only has life in prison.

Trump just being cruel on the way out. Death cult.