Supernatural - Salt and Burn All

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So we just have to assume that's Eileen he married?

Showrunner and Executive Producer of The Boys Eric Kripke stated, "When I was a child, I had a crazy, impossible dream - to provide Jensen Ackles with gainful employment. I'm happy to say that dream has come true. Jensen is an amazing actor, an even better person, smells like warm chocolate chip cookies, and I consider him a brother. As Soldier Boy, the very first Superhero, he'll bring so much humor, pathos, and danger to the role. I can't wait to be on set with him again, and bring a bit of Supernatural to The Boys."

Kurrelgyre wrote:
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So we just have to assume that's Eileen he married?

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I don't know, but I like how they left that open.

That was too depressing for me.

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This certainly wasn't a bad episode, but it was such a needlessly cruel ending. In the last few episodes we saw how desperate Dean was to escape from Chuck and live his life on his own terms. In the previous episode, we get a bittersweet ending where the brothers are finally free from their strings after a hard-fought struggle, but they lose Cas and Jack in the process. However, the characters are hopeful and drive off into the sunset. The very next episode, the knife is twisted and Dean is killed before he has a chance to enjoy his newfound freedom. Sam does move on and gets a happy apple pie life, but after all the trauma and loss he's suffered even that is bittersweet. We even have a scene where Older Sam breaks down when sitting in the Impala while reflecting on everything he's lost in life. I've seen plenty of sad endings in my time and this was easily the cruelest I've ever seen. And no, the characters ending up in fluffy cloud heaven does not make it a happy ending.

If the writers really wanted to go this road, then a better approach would have been to end the series with the previous episode. Then in two or three years do a Supernatural TV movie that is basically this episode. That way Sam and Dean would have had a couple of happy years together and we would have had more time to flesh out the ending without COVID restrictions preventing the extended Winchester family from being in the show. It wouldn't have been perfect and it wouldn't have been my choice, but it wouldn't have so relentlessly bleak.

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I must admit it was odd they didn't end with the previous episode. It seemed like a perfect place to end it, but I'm not sad about this ending at all. Dean knew he'd basically go down swinging, and Sam got a chance at the normal life he'd always truly been wanting. I loved it.

Veloxi wrote:
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I must admit it was odd they didn't end with the previous episode. It seemed like a perfect place to end it, but I'm not sad about this ending at all. Dean knew he'd basically go down swinging, and Sam got a chance at the normal life he'd always truly been wanting. I loved it.

Last week was a logical ending, it wasn't an emotional ending.

I found like week's ending emotional. Sam and Dean are freed from Chuck's strings and drive off into the sunset to finally live their lives on their terms. It was bittersweet because they lost Cas and Jack, but overall happy.

Finally got around to finishing the last half of the final season on Netflix. Hard to believe I've watched all 15 seasons, heck, that there were 15 seasons.

I'll admit I kinda struggled through the couple of seasons after the main story arc was finished and the alternating seasons of either Dean or Sam being in mortal peril or trying to protect the other wore a bit thin, but, at it's core, the show was wonderful comfort entertainment with some very memorable characters and it was clear everyone involved with the show was having a good time with it.

Now I just need to find the next Supernatural-type show to watch.

OG_slinger wrote:

Finally got around to finishing the last half of the final season on Netflix. Hard to believe I've watched all 15 seasons, heck, that there were 15 seasons.

I'll admit I kinda struggled through the couple of seasons after the main story arc was finished and the alternating seasons of either Dean or Sam being in mortal peril or trying to protect the other wore a bit thin, but, at it's core, the show was wonderful comfort entertainment with some very memorable characters and it was clear everyone involved with the show was having a good time with it.

Now I just need to find the next Supernatural-type show to watch.

Grimm? Follows the Monster-of-the-week format with a larger story arc in the background (at least for the first couple of seasons)

Supernatural started the year after Angel was cancelled, so it was the perfect followup to the Buffyverse. Unfortunately, I don't see anything on the horizon similar to these shows. Maybe it'll go full circle and that upcoming Buffy spinoff (assuming it wasn't killed by Covid) will be the followup to Supernatural.

Legacies is definitely not as dark as either Supernatural or Grimm, but the lighter tone and monsters of the week so far make it feel more like Buffy than anything since. It probably won't suit everyone's tastes, but the two seasons that have aired are both on Netflix.

Arrow is a possibility. Or maybe SG-1.

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Legacies is definitely not as dark as either Supernatural or Grimm, but the lighter tone and monsters of the week so far make it feel more like Buffy than anything since. It probably won't suit everyone's tastes, but the two seasons that have aired are both on Netflix.

Oh man, do I dare dig into the world of The Vampire Diaries?

I just watched the Exorcist on Amazon Prime. Pretty good. It's only one type of monsters and each season generally focuses on a single case.
The problem is that it was cancelled after 2 seasons. :/

slazev wrote:

I just watched the Exorcist on Amazon Prime. Pretty good. It's only one type of monsters and each season generally focuses on a single case.
The problem is that it was cancelled after 2 seasons. :/

Also In that vein Evil is available on Netflix

Evil is great, but I would argue it is darker than Supernatural.

We're just finishing up Season 15 now. Enjoying it but also glad to see it end.

Watch this all the way to the end.

https://twitter.com/butcherslight/st...

Look, just because I watched all 15 seasons doesn't mean I have the time to watch a 24 second TikTok.

Veloxi wrote:

Watch this all the way to the end.

https://twitter.com/butcherslight/st...

AHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHA!!!!!!!

Uh, I think I missed an episode or 2. I guess all that fighting, separating for a while and making up does make more sense.

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Kurrelgyre wrote:

Legacies is definitely not as dark as either Supernatural or Grimm, but the lighter tone and monsters of the week so far make it feel more like Buffy than anything since. It probably won't suit everyone's tastes, but the two seasons that have aired are both on Netflix.

Oh man, do I dare dig into the world of The Vampire Diaries?

I've thought of that question from time to time and have to conclude that no, you shouldn't, at least not by watching the prior two series. While the first season of TVD was satisfying because it both chewed through storylines and had an incredible sense for pacing, it was also built around the secrets of their small town. A lot of that ends up by the wayside after the middle of season 2, and there was a noticeable slowing to the pacing as well. This is pretty amusing in highlighting the great many flaws of that series. The Originals are functionally immortal, so there's a lot of spinning of plates until the last season where they just go for broke and get ok with killing off main characters.

Legacies, by way of its almost entirely new cast and trademark-safe X-Menish boarding school setting gets to focus on a more diverse set of characters without centuries of baggage to them. And it's not above letting its villains be totally arch if it's fun.

Yeah, I watched Jenny's video a while back. She puts out some great content. I feel like I more than got my fill of the world of TVD with that 150 minute video.

Well that didn't last long. Nothing stays dead in Supernatural after all.

‘Supernatural’ Prequel ‘The Winchesters’ In Works At The CW From Jensen & Danneel Ackles

Alright, so at first I thought this idea sounded like garbage since John didn't even know about monsters until Mary died, but after reading some comments on Reddit I think it could work. This idea comes from a comment on reddit so I take no credit for the idea, but I did flesh it out.

The spinoff could be about the early days of John hunting as a broken man terrified of losing his two boys while the flashbacks would juxtapose that by showing John as a happy, loving father and husband while Mary is the reluctant hunter trying to keep her family safe and oblivious about what's truly out there. It would also be tragic since we know she fails in the end. They would both be fighting to keep their family safe, but alone and years apart.

This restores Supernatural back to the gritty, early days before it became a wacky universe full of angels and there's plenty of good material that you could pull from John's 20 year rampage. We also would get to see a young Bobby and John together and I think we all want to see Bobby chase John out his house with a shotgun.

Arise thread!! Rob Benedict and Richard Speight Jr have launched a Supernatural rewatch podcast and the first two episodes have both Jensen and Jared! So far it's a delight!

https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts...