\m/(~_~)\m/ Bring the Metal! \m/(~_~)\m/

Mr Bungle is a thrash band again.

WizardM0de wrote:

Hyperbole?!? Doesn't everyone think of Sad But True, Of Wolf and Man, Don't Tread on Me, and Enter Sandman being in the same vein as Summer of '69, In the Air Tonight, and Every Breath You Take?

No, because In the Air Tonight and Every Breath You Take are legit great.
I'd lump those Metallica songs in with The Boys Are Back In Town, We Built This City, and Mickey.

WizardM0de wrote:

Hyperbole?!? Doesn't everyone think of Sad But True, Of Wolf and Man, Don't Tread on Me, and Enter Sandman being in the same vein as Summer of '69, In the Air Tonight, and Every Breath You Take?

I think most people are lacking familiarity with Sad But True, of Wolf and Man, and Don't Tread on Me. But Enter Sandman and Nothing Else Matters? Yup.

Those are going to be the songs everyone knows off the radio but probably wouldn't know which album they were from.

I've also kept my opinion out of this conversation because of the old Metallica albums I like Ride the Lightning best, and at this stage feel their best work as musicians was 50% Load and 50% ReLoad meaning it should have just been 1 album after all with the remaining stuff tossed aside. But I suppose that begs a question: is Metallica any good as a metal band, period? They became the mainstream thrash sensation but I'd question if their original albums were even really all that good to begin with as metal albums.

At the same time, I'm probably not in a good position to determine what is and isn't good/true metal in this thread. I just know that, for being my favorite band through middle school and half of high school, I find most of what Metallica has made throughout their entire career boring to listen to.

[insert temperature] take: Slayer was *always* the best band of that era.

WizardM0de wrote:

Hyperbole?!? Doesn't everyone think of Sad But True, Of Wolf and Man, Don't Tread on Me, and Enter Sandman being in the same vein as Summer of '69, In the Air Tonight, and Every Breath You Take?

I'm your dream

real six-string

played me 'til your fingers bleed

stupid Jody got mar-ried

Sad but true!

*Legion* wrote:
WizardM0de wrote:

Hyperbole?!? Doesn't everyone think of Sad But True, Of Wolf and Man, Don't Tread on Me, and Enter Sandman being in the same vein as Summer of '69, In the Air Tonight, and Every Breath You Take?

I'm your dream

real six-string

played me 'til your fingers bleed

stupid Jody got mar-ried

Sad but true!

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Swedish folk rock/metal/trip-hop/etc band. Good stuff.

New discovery out of left field as I'm deep into a whiskey-fueled spiral down an Internet rabbit hole, and I think it's pretty badass. Reminds me a little of Ghost? Black Sabbath/Ozzy?

Ravening Iron by Eternal Champion

(putting the link in a spoiler because the album art is NSFW fantasy art)

Spoiler:

Bandcamp Link if that's more your thing than YouTube.

Oh, I like this.

r013nt0 wrote:
WizardM0de wrote:

Hyperbole?!? Doesn't everyone think of Sad But True, Of Wolf and Man, Don't Tread on Me, and Enter Sandman being in the same vein as Summer of '69, In the Air Tonight, and Every Breath You Take?

No, because In the Air Tonight and Every Breath You Take are legit great.
I'd lump those Metallica songs in with The Boys Are Back In Town, We Built This City, and Mickey.

:lol:

You have committed an unforgiveable, unpardonable sin against Thin Lizzy. Go directly to music-blasphemy hell. Do not pass Go, do not collect $200.

But seriously, that's a wrong opinion.

EP of partially re-recorded/re-mixed/etc songs off of Thy Catafalque's 2004 album "Tűnő Idő Tárlat", which is one I'm not familiar with since it wasn't on Spotify or Bandcamp. Sounds fairly fresh to me.

Fedaykin98 wrote:
r013nt0 wrote:
WizardM0de wrote:

Hyperbole?!? Doesn't everyone think of Sad But True, Of Wolf and Man, Don't Tread on Me, and Enter Sandman being in the same vein as Summer of '69, In the Air Tonight, and Every Breath You Take?

No, because In the Air Tonight and Every Breath You Take are legit great.
I'd lump those Metallica songs in with The Boys Are Back In Town, We Built This City, and Mickey.

:lol:

You have committed an unforgiveable, unpardonable sin against Thin Lizzy. Go directly to music-blasphemy hell. Do not pass Go, do not collect $200.

But seriously, that's a wrong opinion.

Thin Lizzy is so effing dope. I feel like they recorded The Boys Are Back to earn enough money to buy their mothers houses. And that’s ok by me.

I will never understand what people see in that band, but hey... I don't need to. Enjoy what you enjoy! Unless it's the Black album, which should be illegal.

r013nt0 wrote:

I will never understand what people see in that band, but hey... I don't need to. Enjoy what you enjoy! Unless it's the Black album, which should be illegal.

Pre-Justice Metallica albums are heavily influenced by Thin Lizzy.

When I find the Thin Lizzy song that Jaymz copied almost note for note on the song Orion I will come back here and post it.

Different song but check the similarity.

And of course there’s this...

Yeah, I just don't hear it. *By which I mean I can hear that they clearly took some elements of what was going on there, but altered it sufficiently that it might as well be completely unrelated in the ways that matter to my ears, personally.

Even if they have similar notes or riffs the guitar tuning and effects that TL uses just sound twee and corny to me. Do not like.

That album (Fighting) came out in '75, but even allowing for that so did f*ckin' Floyd's "Wish You Were Here," and Can's "Landed."

E: * for clarity

Yeah, I'm not a fan of Thin Lizzy's sound either.

But the similarity is clearly there.

All that reminded me of is how bad Lars Ulrich has always been as a drummer.

They should just hire a real drummer to redo every song in their back catalogue and then rerelease it. No matter which album you love or hate, it would see a dramatic improvement.

ccesarano wrote:

All that reminded me of is how bad Lars Ulrich has always been as a drummer.

They should just hire a real drummer to redo every song in their back catalogue and then rerelease it. No matter which album you love or hate, it would see a dramatic improvement.

I just can't get enough of this guy.

I need this dude to do Portnoying.

EDIT: Oh sh*t, he already did

@ 2:12, absolutely uncanny. That's the Portnoy playing I know.

He's so on point with their styles it's insane.

What if Dave Lombardo re-recorded all the drums for Kill 'Em All, Lightning, Puppets, and Justice?

And then let me buy albums with his drumming mixed in?

r013nt0 wrote:

What if Dave Lombardo re-recorded all the drums for Kill 'Em All, Lightning, Puppets, and Justice?

And then let me buy albums with his drumming mixed in?

Sorry, it only comes in a set that includes Black Album.

RIP

r013nt0 wrote:

What if Dave Lombardo re-recorded all the drums for Kill 'Em All, Lightning, Puppets, and Justice?

And then let me buy albums with his drumming mixed in?

But also can someone record the bass parts and let us hear them.

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Earlier in the thread someone mentioned how looking back Metallica wasn’t such a great band. I had this same revelation when the MoP remaster version came out. You can really hear how sloppy the guitar playing was. Also, I’d heard the original versions so many times that it was jarring to hear it with the burps and farts taken out. Unsettling really.

RawkGWJ wrote:
r013nt0 wrote:

What if Dave Lombardo re-recorded all the drums for Kill 'Em All, Lightning, Puppets, and Justice?

And then let me buy albums with his drumming mixed in?

But also can someone record the bass parts and let us hear them.

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Earlier in the thread someone mentioned how looking back Metallica wasn’t such a great band. I had this same revelation when the MoP remaster version came out. You can really hear how sloppy the guitar playing was. Also, I’d heard the original versions so many times that it was jarring to hear it with the burps and farts taken out. Unsettling really.

I'm the one guy who always loved Megadeth way more than Metallica, mostly for that reason (much tighter band) and better songwriting for my ears.

Yep. And I've said it before but I always felt that Slayer was the far better band. Sometimes it feels like Metallica had some masterpieces in spite of themselves.

Yeah. Megadeth was way more symphonic. Like a symphony of destruction. Plus, Marty Friedman! Emirite?

Metal Hammer review of the new Killer Be Killed album.

tl;dr: 4/5

Heard Mr. Bungle on the radio last night, the song Sudden Death. Holy sh*t.