[Discussion] Welcome to the Biden Administration!

Anything related to Biden and his upcoming administration. May this thread be less active and controversial as that last guys thread.

Yup, several men more concerned about a rape survivor not trusting them for caping for an accused rapist than the power given to the accused rapist is definitely imperfect, problematic, and especially gross.

Freyja wrote:

Love all the dudes popping out of the woodwork with the answer to the question "Where does #BelieveWomen end? And it's "The incoming Democratic President".

And on top of that, even if he 100% didn't sexually assault Tara Reade, the general consensus being "Well he's definitely handsy with women and verifiably kind of a sex pest but, hey, not Trump right?" is still, for the record, gross to defend.

I mean, that's the world we are living in right? We are all aware that "better than Trump" is not automatically fantastic, but is sure as sh*t better than what we have now. We had a chance to give our voice to which version of "better than Trump" we wanted, and that was the primaries, and we landed on Biden as the safest choice to move forward with. Let not perfect be the enemy of good. I'd vote for Biden 100% of the time over Trump in the general election, even knowing how handsy he has been in the past, but in the primaries I'd vote against Biden 100% of the time too when given a chance.

I had to google what "caping" is.

I most certainly am not caping for Biden.

I believe the most I have said on him since the media declared him the winner was "Malaise forever!" in a different thread.

Oh man. If only there had been any other candidates in the Democratic Party primaries who hadn't had a history of being creepy and pesty -or male, even- for whom people could have voted.

I'm sure this is going to be a great administration, though, and nothing at all like the one he was previously a part of. Nothing like the rest of his political career, either.

Well let's re-litigate March for the tenth time here. This thread is going well...

r013nt0 wrote:

Oh man. If only there had been any other candidates in the Democratic Party primaries who hadn't had a history of being creepy and pesty -or male, even- for whom people could have voted.

I don't get what your point is. I imagine a lot of people in this forum voted for someone other than Biden in the primaries. The only person that I wanted less than Biden was probably Bloomberg and Tulsi.

But the primaries don't end up with a new person in the White House.

r013nt0 wrote:

Oh man. If only there had been any other candidates in the Democratic Party primaries who hadn't had a history of being creepy and pesty -or male, even- for whom people could have voted.

I'm sure this is going to be a great administration, though, and nothing at all like the one he was previously a part of. Nothing like the rest of his political career, either.

Pretty much.

Vrikk wrote:

I don't get what your point is.

It's simple. There's a whole lot of people in various places saying "At least he's better than what we have now." as a defense and wouldn't it be great if we had something better than that to say about our next President?

It definitely would be. I would love to be able to say more than "I'm happy that I don't have to cringe whenever I open Twitter."

Maybe we can say more if the Democrats win the two Georgia races. It's a toss up, but Stacey Abrams is dragging that state to the left kicking and screaming.

At least we'll take COVID seriously as a nation and rejoin the Paris Accord?

I think once the novelty and relief wears off there will still be plenty to cringe about, just not quite as hard or as painfully as we have been in the last four years.

r013nt0 wrote:
Vrikk wrote:

I don't get what your point is.

It's simple. There's a whole lot of people in various places saying "At least he's better than what we have now." as a defense and wouldn't it be great if we had something better than that to say about our next President?

Yes, but that isn't how democracy works. Democracy - in my opinion - is like that. To get the majority of 300+ million people to agree mean getting the lowest common denominator. So really no one gets the candidate they love but the majority gets the candidate they can live with.

So while it would be great it won't probably happen in a nation wide election.

Looking forward to the Lowest Common Denominator Administration!

r013nt0 wrote:

Looking forward to the Lowest Common Denominator Administration!

Some (like myself) are hoping for a lot more than that, especially if the progressives can give the moderates a nudge.

Yes. I'd rather look at the bright side of this Administration instead of already resigning myself to defeat. We defeated Trump, but still have work to do. Some progress can be made even if McConnell has a slim majority!

All I can really add to the "we could have done so much better" discussion is this (very much NSFW):

He might feel a little differently now if he was still around, but some of it still resonates.

Spoiler:

This is the best we can do.

The public sucks. F*ck hope.

(And yes, I voted anyway.)

Vrikk wrote:

Maybe we can say more if the Democrats win the two Georgia races. It's a toss up, but Stacey Abrams is dragging that state to the left kicking and screaming.

We just donated to the cause at gasenate.com

Natus wrote:

Some (like myself) are hoping for a lot more than that, especially if the progressives can give the moderates a nudge.

Considering the first thing Centrists started doing on Saturday morning was attacking Progressives, blaming them for their losses and trying to scapegoat, I'm gonna go ahead and not assume they will actually engage in good faith, cease punching left, and stop courting Republicans.

But hey, I would love to be wrong.

r013nt0 wrote:
Natus wrote:

Some (like myself) are hoping for a lot more than that, especially if the progressives can give the moderates a nudge.

Considering the first thing Centrists started doing on Saturday morning was attacking Progressives, blaming them for their losses and trying to scapegoat, I'm gonna go ahead and not assume they will actually engage in good faith, cease punching left, and stop courting Republicans.

But hey, I would love to be wrong.

The moderates are terrified (I'm terrified that the election was so close), and they think they can keep their seats through moderation (which is why we have the "NO GREEN NEW DEAL/WE LOVE FRACKING" lines of attack.) AOC is correct that you either go bold or go home.

AOC is almost always correct.

Financial Times: What can Silicon Valley expect from Joe Biden?

Really good speech, Joe. Please, just wear a mask. Save American lives.

So nice to see all the negativity before the administration elect takes office or starts listing cabinet members.
The same administration with a Black-Indian woman as vice president and gave speeches and a giant sign displaying: Empathy, Truth, Science, Healing, etc.

But you guys do you and as much as I love AOC, her promoting of the nothing burger that is moderates blaming progressives for election losses as a way to strengthen the GA senate runoffs is hyperbolic and wrong.

I was looking forward to hearing reporting on exciting and diverse cabinet members in this thread but I am going to check out.

Mods, can we make a bitter repository thread for the real progressives (tm) to complain in since they have no interest in discussion?

r013nt0 wrote:

AOC is almost always correct.

Financial Times: What can Silicon Valley expect from Joe Biden?

I hope the paywall allows the Financial Times to succeed in a market of tight margins but I have too many subscriptions to add another one for this article.

fangblackbone wrote:

words

Literally the second post after I linked an actual article around the Biden administration and how they might deal with Silicon Valley.

farley3k wrote:

I hope the paywall allows the Financial Times to succeed in a market of tight margins but I have too many subscriptions to add another one for this article.

Hmm, wasn't paywalled when I read it / linked it. Maybe they hit a free-read quota.

To summarize what I remember. He may not want to make waves but also might want to strengthen and enforce anti-trust, but won't go so far as to call for breaking up Facebook / Google / Twitter / Apple. He may want to revisit and weaken Section 230, and that would have bipartisan support.

Who knows. in today's world of paywalls etc. it seems like it happens a lot. i am not sure what a better financial model would be but I am sure smart entrepreneurs will think of something.

https://twitter.com/moveleftpod/stat...

Move Left, Idiots!
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Biden's COVID plan just went up on his transition website. Nowhere is there a call for any stimulus relief for Americans.
Mods, can we make a bitter repository thread for the real progressives (tm) to complain in since they have no interest in discussion?

The left shouldn't alienate moderates. Anyway let's build the corral for progressives over there so we don't have to listen to them.

fangblackbone wrote:

But you guys do you and as much as I love AOC, her promoting of the nothing burger that is moderates blaming progressives for election losses as a way to strengthen the GA senate runoffs is hyperbolic and wrong.

It certainly was not a nothing-burger but an intense back-and-forth between Dem moderates and progressives. The moderates want to run from progressive initiatives and labelling. I think AOC was very accurate about this conflict.

I think we are all looking forward to the reveal of Biden's cabinet, but many of us are hoping for some real outside-the-box thinkers and not "Obama first term" officials. YMMV.

Speaking of the Cabinet, Susan Rice is a shoe in for Pompeo's soon-to-be vacant role, right?

Freyja wrote:

https://twitter.com/moveleftpod/stat...

Move Left, Idiots!
@moveleftpod
Biden's COVID plan just went up on his transition website. Nowhere is there a call for any stimulus relief for Americans.

That's probably because his COVID plan addresses how to get the disease under control and his Economic Recovery plan addresses the economy which the author of the tweet would have realized if they just clicked on the giant "Economic Recovery" banner at the bottom of the Combating COVID-19 page they supposedly just read.