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Previous incarnations of Cleveland/P&C/D&D have had an image thread, to handle political cartoons and other image-based stuff that doesn't belong in the general post-a-picture threads.

If any of them spawn an extended discussion, please spawn it off into its own thread. Replies to non-picture replies should take the form of a link pointing to a post on a different discussion thread.

And I shouldn't have to say it, but the images still need to abide by the rules.

fenomas wrote:

To be fair, one rather damning point against Biden that people tend to forget is the glowing endorsement he got from Lindsay Graham.

And The Lincoln Project.

Biden isn't the lesser of two evils. He's literally the not evil one!

Vote for not evil!

fenomas wrote:

To be fair, one rather damning point against Biden that people tend to forget is the glowing endorsement he got from Lindsay Graham.

I can't remember, was that the Lindsey Graham who accurately (albeit hypocritically) called out Trump as a race baiting, xenophobic religious bigot, or the one who's completely crawled up into Trump's sphincter as if he's dying of hypothermia on Hoth?

Halloween's ruined.

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Between this and being kind, empathetic, and decent (see the post about Joe's town hall being like Mr. Rogers) I may have to vote trump. Come on! Why would we expect a president to listen to science? It is almost obscene.

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Like Biden's response

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farley3k wrote:

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I stand ready to hold Florida Man's beer.

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Universal health care is such a complex beast that only 32 of the world's 33 developed nations have been able to make it work.

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In foxnews dreams

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and in foxnews nightmares

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Oh 2020.

Huh. I always thought it was a unique idiom for break-dancing movie sequels.

Perfectly normal behavior.

Aaron D. wrote:

Huh. I always thought it was a unique idiom for break-dancing movie sequels.

It's actually sadder and more depressing than that.

The precise origins of the word boogaloo aren't known, but the best guess is that it's derived from the Spanish bugalú, the Spanish word for "boogie" as a music and dance style. "Boogaloo" as a term gained prominence in the US in the 1960s, especially in New York City, as a term for a style of music that was a fusion of Latin American and African American styles. It was a term that encapsulated the musical and cultural mashup of two marginalized groups to create something new, exciting, and unique.

Now it's a right-wing slang term for civil war.

ClockworkHouse wrote:

The precise origins of the word boogaloo aren't known, but the best guess is that it's derived from the Spanish bugalú, the Spanish word for "boogie" as a music and dance style. "Boogaloo" as a term gained prominence in the US in the 1960s, especially in New York City, as a term for a style of music that was a fusion of Latin American and African American styles. It was a term that encapsulated the musical and cultural mashup of two marginalized groups to create something new, exciting, and unique.

Now it's a right-wing slang term for civil war.

So, something new, exciting and unique then?

No, we already did the civil war to preserve racism. No need to do it again.

ClockworkHouse wrote:

No, we already did the civil war to preserve racism. No need to do it again.

Those damn liberal Hollywood elites would rather sh*t out a tired-ass sequel than invest in an original IP.

ClockworkHouse wrote:

No, we already did the civil war to preserve racism. No need to do it again.

The Boogs are more motivated by libertarian anti-government sentiment than racism. A lot of the individual members are racist and a some of them focus on race because they think it’s the easiest way to start a civil war, but it’s not an explicitly racist movement. That’s why they venerate George Floyd and Breonna Taylor just as much as Dylan Roof and Tim McVeigh, they think race is a wedge they can use to radicalize normies against the state.

Potato, potato.

ruhk wrote:
ClockworkHouse wrote:

No, we already did the civil war to preserve racism. No need to do it again.

The Boogs are more motivated by libertarian anti-government sentiment than racism. A lot of the individual members are racist and a some of them focus on race because they think it’s the easiest way to start a civil war, but it’s not an explicitly racist movement. That’s why they venerate George Floyd and Breonna Taylor just as much as Dylan Roof and Tim McVeigh, they think race is a wedge they can use to radicalize normies against the state.

Bullsh*t.

Yeah, this is big "distinction without a difference" energy.

"I'm not racist, I'm just using racism to achieve my ends," is hardly worth noting as different than racism (because it isn't).

Sounds like, "Actually, it's about ethics in games journalism".

Look, the movement is half memelords and half actual extremists and they use the mischaracterization caused by this dichotomy as a recruiting tactic so it’s important to not paint them with too broad a brush. People hear descriptions about them being white supremacists and far-right extremists, but when they encounter Boog culture they see memorials for Breonna Taylor and calls for distinctly non-right rhetoric like police abolition and indictments of the republican administration mixed in. The Boogs take advantage of this confusion to cast doubt on critics and rope more people into the fun meme culture side of things, and before you know it you have another potential shooter painting “I became unreasonable” in blood.

Pretend you're racist long enough, though, and you just become racist.

I think people are mistaking the origin of the “boogaloo” concept, which originated in white supremacist circles in the early ‘10’s and was explicitly about inciting a race war, with the Boogaloo Movement, which is barely two years old and while nominally about inciting a civil war between Citizens and Government, is currently mostly about harassing and attacking cops and politicians.

EDIT: not trying to defend these sh*theads but I try to follow stuff like this and I’ve seen how they use bad reporting to their advantage. The Boogs aren’t a group, it’s essentially hundreds of discrete small groups and individuals tied together by memes, and while some of the groups are varying levels of racist, the overarching movement at least tries to be inclusive and even commonly advocates against racism.

ruhk wrote:

while some of the groups are varying levels of racist, the overarching movement at least tries to be inclusive and even commonly advocates against racism.

Oh, well they’re fine folks then. Except for the whole trying to start a civil war thing. And the attacking and harassing people thing.

How about this then, instead of calling them racist, how about we just call them violent, seditious jackasses. Frankly I don’t care what they do with reporting about them because I completely ignore them. Like many self important groups of idiots, they have a media footprint out of proportion to their numbers, and more importantly, far bigger than their ability to accomplish anything. Thanks, social media!

BadKen wrote:

Like many self important groups of idiots, they have a media footprint out of proportion to their numbers, and more importantly, far bigger than their ability to accomplish anything.

This also described QAnon until this last year, now it’s one of the fastest growing religions in the world and there are dozens of Q-loyal “digital soldier” politicians running for offices at state and federal levels all over the country, some with decent chances of being elected. There are also, somewhat oddly, nascent Q movements starting to appear in other countries. Small groups of extremists tend to become large groups of extremists if not handled properly, especially in times like these where there are multiple simultaneous crises occurring.

I'd heard of this group but didn't know much about them, so I'd just like to thank ruhk for adding some nuance here. And folks, let's please err very strongly on the side of assuming that just because someone tries to explain one of these groups doesn't imply that they're defending the group, or equivocating about the group's badness.

Also to remind everyone that this is an image thread, a relevant Sartre quote:

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edited to add: I am slightly triggered by the second-to-last hyphen in that image. I blame the fascists.

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farley3k wrote:

Between this and being kind, empathetic, and decent (see the post about Joe's town hall being like Mr. Rogers) I may have to vote trump. Come on! Why would we expect a president to listen to science? It is almost obscene.

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I liked Colbert's take on this for a Biden commercial. Just the clip of Trump saying "he'll listen to the scientists", followed by Biden saying, "I'm Joe Biden, and I approved this ad."