Questions you want answered.

Saints preserve us from the foolishness of unfounded beliefs!

BadKen wrote:
Stealthpizza wrote:
BadKen wrote:

I'm biting my tongue here. Real hard.

What does your tongue taste like?

It tastes like fingers, because I'd actually have to be biting my fingers to prevent myself posting here.

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PurEvil wrote:

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My client does not have permission to get that image.

Tossed it on my imgur account, shouldn't be an issue now.

Can't believe that MBTI throwaway joke spawned so much discussion. Then again, it's GWJ. This is the way.

My wife is the ENTJ that knows ENTJs are "the best" type and wants to talk your ear off about it and, oh, did she mention that female ENTJs are super rare because society beats down talkative assertive women, etc.

I am the type that thinks all personality type stuff is BS and hate being put in a box. INFP, I think? ISFP some days.

Mixolyde wrote:

I am the type that thinks all personality type stuff is BS and hate being put in a box. INFP, I think? ISFP some days.

The whole MBTI thing has about the same amount of scientific evidence for it as the quizzes in magazines for teen girls. For reasons that are unclear to me, lots of people seem to love being categorised. Presumably some of the appeal is a nice dopamine hit when the quiz "confirms" a belief that the subject has about themselves. It's really on the same level as polygraphs ("this seems scientific!") and somewhat better than astrology, which is a whole new level of stupid.

All that grumpiness aside though, it's relatively harmless fun as long as it's not the basis of major life decisions or any sort of actual decision making for employment (I've seen MBTI administered to applicants).

Yep. Now if we could just convince people that *literally* following Iron Age tribal customs as privileged social practices is even more silly, we'd get far more of a leg up on improving society...

Robear wrote:

Yep. Now if we could just convince people that *literally* following Iron Age tribal customs as privileged social practices is even more silly, we'd get far more of a leg up on improving society...

Not a fan of marriage?

Big fan of marriage. I think you missed the word "literally" above, Maverickz. Marriage rules vary across time and culture and philosophies and legal systems. But, for example, Levitican rules on marriage never vary in the text, although of course the Jewish interpretation differs from the thousands of Christian readings. And the prevalence of that text in modern society is a tremendous drag, pitting people against each other in titanic, wasteful, needless conflicts. And that's before all the *other* competing texts, each purporting to be the One True Way, and whose followers often work to get *their* interpretations privileged over others.

So really what I'm saying is that if you're tied to one particular thread of (for example) Bronze Age thinking, and you're working to shift society to only allow your beliefs to be recognized under the law, that's a problem. Marriage as a whole? Not a problem, and frankly however people want to do it - arranged, same-sex, patriarchal, matriarchal, contractual and time-limited, plural, whatever as long as legitimate consent is involved - is fine. But "marriage" as a whole was not laid down by one source in the world in a sacred document in the Bronze Age; it was present in the earliest legal codes we have and precedes in written sources by around a thousand years the Abrahamic documents. And it clearly changes with time. And it's different in different cultures, which is fine. Marriage as a global institution does not hew to one particular set of practices, nor should it. But *literalism* says, "my reading is the only reading, and this document is the only legitimate source".

It's just that we have a lot of influential people in this country who seek to put a narrow, literally Bronze Age definition of marriage into law, and that's not at all an advantage for us. Does my comment make more sense now?

Insert further screed against literalism here.

That's a lot of words to say "f**k Jesus".

Because I'm saying "F*ck literalism" instead lol.

How dare you challenge my interpretation of your text.

Exactly.

*Legion* wrote:

That's a lot of words to say "f**k Jesus".

I read it more as that we should all have our own, personal Jesus.

ClockworkHouse wrote:
*Legion* wrote:

That's a lot of words to say "f**k Jesus".

I read it more as that we should all have our own, personal Jesus.

Someone to hear your prayers. Someone who cares.

Well that's a practical solution to how we're all going to f*ck him. Otherwise scheduling is going to be a nightmare.

People need to leave that poor Jewish boy alone. All he wanted was for people to be nice to each other, and look what happened.

pandasuit wrote:
ClockworkHouse wrote:
*Legion* wrote:

That's a lot of words to say "f**k Jesus".

I read it more as that we should all have our own, personal Jesus.

Someone to hear your prayers. Someone who cares.

Hot Take - Johnny Cash's version of "Personal Jesus" is so much more intense and better than Depeche Mode

Robear wrote:

Because I'm saying "F*ck literalism" instead lol.

Figuratively, of course.

Clumber wrote:
pandasuit wrote:
ClockworkHouse wrote:
*Legion* wrote:

That's a lot of words to say "f**k Jesus".

I read it more as that we should all have our own, personal Jesus.

Someone to hear your prayers. Someone who cares.

Hot Take - Johnny Cash's version of "Personal Jesus" is so much more intense and better than Depeche Mode

His version of just about every song he covered is more intense and better than the original though. See Hurt by Nine Inch Nails. Even Trent Reznor himself says that Johnny's version is the more powerful song. Also see I Won't Back Down by Tom Petty and One by U2.

Rykin wrote:

See Hurt by Nine Inch Nails. Even Trent Reznor himself says that Johnny's version is the more powerful song.

The music video for his cover of "Hurt" is incredible.

Filmed, what, a few days or weeks before he died?

Mixolyde wrote:

Can't believe that MBTI throwaway joke spawned so much discussion. Then again, it's GWJ. This is the way.

My wife is the ENTJ that knows ENTJs are "the best" type and wants to talk your ear off about it and, oh, did she mention that female ENTJs are super rare because society beats down talkative assertive women, etc.

I am the type that thinks all personality type stuff is BS and hate being put in a box. INFP, I think? ISFP some days.

You could look at it as putting you into a category or a box OR you could instead view it as a way of looking at yourself (or at least the persona you tend to use to make your way in the world), your strengths, weaknesses, etc. and using it a stepping-stone for making positive life changes. Everything doesn't need to be purely scientific to be useful in life.

Of course, I primarily responded to your post to say that your wife IS (mostly) right!

As long as people understand that MBTI and similar tests are basically Buzzfeed "Which Descendants character are you?" quizzes in kicky heels, I don't see the harm in them.

ClockworkHouse wrote:

As long as people understand that MBTI and similar tests are basically Buzzfeed "Which Descendants character are you?" quizzes in kicky heels, I don't see the harm in them.

Oh! Carlos!

Mantid wrote:
ClockworkHouse wrote:

As long as people understand that MBTI and similar tests are basically Buzzfeed "Which Descendants character are you?" quizzes in kicky heels, I don't see the harm in them.

Oh! Carlos!

Really, I'm a Doug.

ClockworkHouse wrote:

As long as people understand that MBTI and similar tests are basically Buzzfeed "Which Descendants character are you?" quizzes in kicky heels, I don't see the harm in them.

This, thank you.

Robear wrote:

Filmed, what, a few days or weeks before he died?

I did some digging, and June Carter Cash (the lady on the stairs, looking at him) passed away about three months after the video was shot, and Johnny followed at about seven.

Reaper81 wrote:
ClockworkHouse wrote:

As long as people understand that MBTI and similar tests are basically Buzzfeed "Which Descendants character are you?" quizzes in kicky heels, I don't see the harm in them.

This, thank you.

My wife is Emperor Palpatine. I'm Luna Lovegood.

Our entire household was very sad when Cameron Boyce died.