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EverythingsTentative wrote:

The Boys:

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Man, so many questions.

1.So why did Stormfront turn into a crying little girl when HL found out she was not at the office. Why is she suddenly scared of him.

2. This episode beats us over the head with "If adults take V then bad things can happen" but Stormfront was the first person to take compound V and she had no side effects. So was she a baby and she married the guy that invented the stuff? What?

3. How can the shaved head girl break down cell doors with ease but not the door they hide in, or the door that was keeping her locked up?

4. How the hell did Lamplighter going to party end up killing some kids in a bed? That whole plot thread didn't make any sense to me.

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1. Two things here. Even though Stormfront is really strong, I think it's implicit that she's not quite as strong as Homelander. Homelander's eye lasers don't immediately burn through her, but that just means she's resistant, not invulnerable, and we haven't really seen a straight strength-to-strength comparison. I think it's safe to say that Homelander could probably beat her to a pulp given sufficient motivation.
The second thing is that Homelander seems to be pretty integral to a plan that she's had brewing for at least the past 20-30 years. Lose his trust here, and you might be starting over from scratch.
Bonus third possibility: She's an insane Nazi, and the blonde, blue-eyed Homelander is her mythic ubermensch. She's not afraid of being hurt by him so much as she is disappointing a man who is a semi-religious figure to her.

2. The wiki has a pretty good explanation on this. I didn't think it was that complicated, but I have read the comic book, so it may be a little less clear coming from zero: https://the-boys.fandom.com/wiki/Fre...

3. I think this might be what Stan Lee used to call a "no-prize". Excelsior!

4. This is a little clearer in the books. Lamplighter had been given Mallory's (the woman who initially led the Boys) home address. In the series, we don't know who gave it to him. When Lamplighter realizes that Frenchie is no longer shadowing him, he ditches his party and goes directly to Mallory's home. Mallory, working late, is not at her home, and her children, missing their mother, have climbed into her bed to sleep. In the dark, Lamplighter is only able to see and hear that someone is sleeping in the bed, and incinerates them, assuming that anyone in Mallory's bed would be Mallory. He only realizes his mistake in the brief moment when the children are burned up. Frenchie, having dealt with his overdosing friend, is able to reacquire Lamplighter's trail, and follows him to Mallory's home, but he arrives too late to do anything to stop him.

I posted this last page but maybe it got overlooked with all the spoiler tags, or I'm narcissistic and need everyone to confirm that they read my thoughts and questions. I don't even know anymore.

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But she hasn't been worried about that up to this point, hell, she has practically been provoking him.

So the first successful use of the stuff was pre WWII, but they haven't adjusted the formula to figure out why it is so unsuccessful? It seemed their leverage to get people to comply with taking the V and doing all the test is threatening their family, but I don't remember anything about numerous amounts of missing adults.

I guess that explains why she never crushed her own door but why did she not follow them to that office, or hear LS get killed. She was not one of the ones to run away.

Did I miss something or did they gloss over why Starlight is back with The Boys. I thought a few episodes back they agreed they shouldn't be around each other. Was the chip removal supposed to be all I needed to see that they were teaming up again?

I get that HL is a complete narcissistic POS but shouldn't the bad guy have some redeemable value? Making him a Nazi on top of everything else feels desperate.

I think my dislike of this season is making me zone out while I'm watching. Last season I was enthralled. This season I'm bored.

I need another Brightburn.

Why? Brightburn was so meh.

I wouldn't expect any redeeming qualities from Homelander. Remember how he grew up. There's no concept of good or wrong in his head, there's only what he wants. Having that said, he's still not the worst of them.

As for Starlight

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being with the boys, she's feeling threatened by Stormfront (and Homelander) from the previous episode and she dug information about her that needed sharing. There's no one to turn to but the boys (which includes her puppy).

Regarding compound V

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and its instability. The comic might answer this if the writers decide to use some of its backstory. Better not to spoil it.

EverythingsTentative wrote:

I posted this last page but maybe it got overlooked with all the spoiler tags, or I'm narcissistic and need everyone to confirm that they read my thoughts and questions. I don't even know anymore.

Spoiler:

1. But she hasn't been worried about that up to this point, hell, she has practically been provoking him.

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3. Did I miss something or did they gloss over why Starlight is back with The Boys. I thought a few episodes back they agreed they shouldn't be around each other. Was the chip removal supposed to be all I needed to see that they were teaming up again?

4.I get that HL is a complete narcissistic POS but shouldn't the bad guy have some redeemable value? Making him a Nazi on top of everything else feels desperate.

Spoiler:

1. When Homelander first comes into her office to have a tantrum, she provokes him--up until he goes glowy-eyes, at which point she backs off nervously. She does not want a physical confrontation with him. There are a lot of potential reasons for this, but I suspect that one of them is that she would stand a very good chance of losing.

3. She helped them escape in the sewers and her and Audience Surrogate dude are still in a relationship-y thing.

4. Because this isn't a show about superheroes, it's a show about unconstrained power, and what that actually looks like in the world. And what that looks like right now is a man who's been in arrested development since he was 13 half-assing his responsibilities, only endorsing actions that directly benefit him, and flirting with Nazism.

slazev wrote:

Why? Brightburn was so meh.

I loved Brightburn. A horror super villain origin story? Sounds like something Disney and DC would never do. It's got plenty of faults but I love that it was made.

I had the same feeling after season one of The Boys. This season I'm not feeling it.

EverythingsTentative wrote:
slazev wrote:

Why? Brightburn was so meh.

I loved Brightburn. A horror super villain origin story? Sounds like something Disney and DC would never do. It's got plenty of faults but I love that it was made.

I had the same feeling after season one of The Boys. This season I'm not feeling it.

I thought Brightburn was fantastic.

I felt it was a good concept wasted by its execution, but to each their own.

Man, I loved Borat and the Ali G show in the mid-00's, but I haven't revisited it since then and am worried about how it might hold up. A lot of the ways he played with ironic racism at the time was hilarious to me. Edgy, for sure, but if you're smart you understood the people it was really making fun of were the racist people who went along with Cohen's characters' views, and/or the sort of second-order racism of politely not challenging Cohen's characters' views because they came from the mouths of people who seemed to different. But I'm not sure it's going to feel the same now, and as I think through the arguments I found persuasive 15 years ago, I worry maybe I was wrong to feel that way then.

I saw someone make an off-hand reference to Borat's "In my country there is problem" song the other day. My reflexive response was to chuckle in memory of that bit, but it only took a second or two to realize that maybe a cartoonish foreigner signing an extremely antisemitic song to a crowd of onlookers who ranged from confused to happily enjoying the song would not be such an easy thing to chuckle at in 2020. I dunno. Cohen seems like a smart guy who thinks about this stuff, so maybe this new movie will show some reflection on the whole bit (I'm particularly intrigued by the part in the trailer where people recognize Borat on the street as the character from the show/movie). I have mixed emotions, for sure!

mrlogical wrote:

Cohen seems like a smart guy who thinks about this stuff, so maybe this new movie will show some reflection on the whole bit (I'm particularly intrigued by the part in the trailer where people recognize Borat on the street as the character from the show/movie). I have mixed emotions, for sure!

I honestly never found Cohen "funny". I found The Ali G show fascinating back in the day. It's all too uncomfortable and brutal for me to enjoy.

After hearing an NPR interview with him, though, many years back. I have so much respect. The man is extremely smart, calculated, and knows exactly what he's doing.

And holy sh**. This year when he did that thing in Washington punking all the racists. I can't even.

That's probably part of the trailer, now that I think of it. I got to the part with the fat suit and stopped.

slazev wrote:

I wouldn't expect any redeeming qualities from Homelander. Remember how he grew up. There's no concept of good or wrong in his head, there's only what he wants. Having that said, he's still not the worst of them.

"People don't call the police because they're stupid. They don't call the police because it's boring." -- Alfred Hitchcock.

We want fun stories we can become engaged with. We want some redeeming qualities on HL because we want to be the very least conflicted about what he does. A moustache-twirling villain is dull.

slazev wrote:

I felt it was a good concept wasted by its execution, but to each their own.

Couldn't agree more. Brightburn was a mediocre movie but a fantastic trailer.

ClockworkHouse wrote:
slazev wrote:

I felt it was a good concept wasted by its execution, but to each their own.

Couldn't agree more. Brightburn was a mediocre movie but a fantastic trailer.

Which pretty much revealed the entire movie.

Hobbes2099 wrote:
slazev wrote:

I wouldn't expect any redeeming qualities from Homelander. Remember how he grew up. There's no concept of good or wrong in his head, there's only what he wants. Having that said, he's still not the worst of them.

"People don't call the police because they're stupid. They don't call the police because it's boring." -- Alfred Hitchcock.

We want fun stories we can become engaged with. We want some redeeming qualities on HL because we want to be the very least conflicted about what he does. A moustache-twirling villain is dull.

Well, I'd say look elsewhere... I don't think he's going to deviate much more from this.

Maybe they want to use his son to give him more of a grey area to work with, but I doubt it.

As for the last episode... Mind blown.

slazev wrote:

As for the last episode... Mind blown.

First episode this season that makes me want to see more.

I know I am late to the party, but my wife and I started The Marvelous Mrs. Maisel, and we both love it. I am a stand-up comedy nerd and dated enough Jewish girls to be familiar with all of those dynamics. The characters and acting are great and feel real. The story is fun and suspenseful, too. We are halfway through season 2 and looking forward to the rest.

Mixolyde wrote:

I know I am late to the party, but my wife and I started The Marvelous Mrs. Maisel, and we both love it. I am a stand-up comedy nerd and dated enough Jewish girls to be familiar with all of those dynamics. The characters and acting are great and feel real. The story is fun and suspenseful, too. We are halfway through season 2 and looking forward to the rest.

I adore that show.

Mario_Alba wrote:

I adore that show.

Same here. Where is the NEXT season!

Don't even need a trailer, if it's got J.K. Simmons I am in!

Man, gonna be some Red Wedding style surprises for people who haven't read that comic

Has anyone seen Utopia? I devoured it in three days.

Apparently, it's a remake and now I really want to see the original as well.

slazev wrote:

Well, I'd say look elsewhere... I don't think he's going to deviate much more from this.

I think HL is pretty interesting just as he is. He's emotionally unstable which makes him unpredictable which makes him fun to watch.

And yeah, Episode 7 maybe the best episode of the entire series thus far.

NathanialG wrote:

I posted it before and I'll post it again.

*squee*

Hobbes2099 wrote:

Has anyone seen Utopia? I devoured it in three days.

Apparently, it's a remake and now I really want to see the original as well.

It's on my (rather lengthy) list...

Hobbes2099 wrote:

Has anyone seen Utopia? I devoured it in three days.

Apparently, it's a remake and now I really want to see the original as well.

No but I played Utopia on the Intellivision.

Oh Q. I never understood that game as a kid. Maybe I should try again.

Edge of Tomorrow is now on Amazon Prime - first time I've seen it on a streaming service.

If you've not seen it before I recommend you make time.

Seconded. Fantastic movie. There are a million ways to screw up a story with this one’s premise, but this accomplishes it beautifully. The novella All You Need is Kill is outstanding, too, but a bit different.

Stele wrote:

Oh Q. I never understood that game as a kid. Maybe I should try again.

You grow crops and build fishing boats and pray the hurricane doesn't hit you!