Nintendo Switch Catch-All 2.0

I think it's an accessibility question rather than an age question. People learn to read at different ages or never at all. Making it possible for more people to play a game is a good thing.

LeapingGnome wrote:

I agree about the reading. Some games my 4 year old likes to play or 'help' have a lot of reading in them and I have to routinely tell her what it says, including games that are toddler-friendly.

Camera controls in a 3d game is much more limiting than inability to read. It's clearly easier to muck around in a 2d game.

I don't think lack of reading is what's keeping toddlers from completing BotW.

"Muck around" is a very accurate description for what I did in most games where my older brother wasn't helping when I was 3-6. Enough so that I was surprised years later to discover the original Donkey Kong kept going after the first stage.

My friend's 4 year-old actually does surprisingly well at Pokemon Sword, as he figured out what different colors and symbols in the menus mean. Good user interface design can go a surprisingly long way.

Calendar is filling out.

So we are getting a Zelda game this November. BotW prequel instead of sequel.

I had the first Hyrule Warriors on 3DS and quite enjoyed it.

I mean, we're getting a musou game with a Zelda skin on it, which is fine of you like musou games, but that's not the same as a Zelda game.

Hyrule Warriors is one of my favorite of the Warriors games (One Piece PW3 is still tops). This is a fascinating way to bring the story of BotW to life. Seems that Nintendo is super comfy with Koei Tecmo and I'm continually impressed with the quality of the releases they've done together.

*Legion* wrote:

"He's not the same person every time, sometimes it's a descendant and sometimes it's just some other kid, they exist on three different timelines, but Breath of the Wild is in all the timelines, why are you still not getting this, are you a toddler?"

I really wish they would stop trying to make each story fit in a unified timeline. They don't try this convoluted stuff with Final Fantasy or Dragon's Quest, and other long running series. Just stop.

I really enjoyed the first Hyrule Warriors and am excited for a second. What I find interesting about it is that it's an actual story-focused game instead of the fan service grab bag that the first game was.

Oh goodie, another musou game.

There really aren't that many of them...

On Switch at least. The three different versions on Dynasty Warriors they release for each numbered version is grating. Money talks though...

Hyrule Warriors is the only game of it's style I've found myself enjoying. Given the interest from the rest of the family (mostly wife and youngest son), It will be in our house before the end of the year, whether I want it or not.

EDIT: Also, this appears to be Nintendo's big holiday game as it releases the Friday before Thanksgiving.

I've never played a Warriors game, but I might get this one so my family and I can see what happened once hundred years before BotW.

farley3k wrote:
*Legion* wrote:

"He's not the same person every time, sometimes it's a descendant and sometimes it's just some other kid, they exist on three different timelines, but Breath of the Wild is in all the timelines, why are you still not getting this, are you a toddler?"

I really wish they would stop trying to make each story fit in a unified timeline. They don't try this convoluted stuff with Final Fantasy or Dragon's Quest, and other long running series. Just stop.

Right? Instead of trying to treat it like each game is a literal sequence of events within the same universe, just act like each game is a story being told. A tale or myth.

There's a word for that sort of thing, I think it starts with an L...

*Legion* wrote:
farley3k wrote:
*Legion* wrote:

"He's not the same person every time, sometimes it's a descendant and sometimes it's just some other kid, they exist on three different timelines, but Breath of the Wild is in all the timelines, why are you still not getting this, are you a toddler?"

I really wish they would stop trying to make each story fit in a unified timeline. They don't try this convoluted stuff with Final Fantasy or Dragon's Quest, and other long running series. Just stop.

Right? Instead of trying to treat it like each game is a literal sequence of events within the same universe, just act like each game is a story being told. A tale or myth.

There's a word for that sort of thing, I think it starts with an L...

Here's the thing: that pretty much is how Nintendo treats the franchise. The only people who care about that Hyrule Historia timeline are fans. It didn't exist—even internally—until that book was put together, and the series producer has said they see it more as fun than anything to take seriously. If I remember correctly, before Breath of the Wild released, journalists asked him where in the timeline it fell and he said he didn't care. I can't think of a single instance when that timeline was referenced in a Zelda game. If it annoys you, just ignore it. Like Nintendo does.

*Legion* wrote:
farley3k wrote:
*Legion* wrote:

"He's not the same person every time, sometimes it's a descendant and sometimes it's just some other kid, they exist on three different timelines, but Breath of the Wild is in all the timelines, why are you still not getting this, are you a toddler?"

I really wish they would stop trying to make each story fit in a unified timeline. They don't try this convoluted stuff with Final Fantasy or Dragon's Quest, and other long running series. Just stop.

Right? Instead of trying to treat it like each game is a literal sequence of events within the same universe, just act like each game is a story being told. A tale or myth.

There's a word for that sort of thing, I think it starts with an L...

Or you could just ignore it. It's not like there's any in-game reason that you'd need to know anything about the timelines. Until I read something about it in the BotW thread, I had no idea the timelines were even a thing, despite at least dabbling in most of the games.

Edit: Or what ClockworkHouse said

garion333 wrote:

There really aren't that many of them...

On Switch at least. The three different versions on Dynasty Warriors they release for each numbered version is grating. Money talks though...

There are musou titles for two Zeldas, Fire Emblem, and Persona in addition to the mainline series games. That seems like a lot to me.

It has been a few years since I've tried a musou title. A BotW prequel backdrop might be enough to convince me to give one another shot.

Yeah the only time Nintendo has really connected a timeline is in Wind Waker. Everything else is whatever.

The first three had a timeline. Adventure of Link takes place right after the first one. A Link to the Past was so named because it took place generations before the first one. But after that, imagining a timeline is probably not a productive exercise.

Dyni wrote:
garion333 wrote:

There really aren't that many of them...

On Switch at least. The three different versions on Dynasty Warriors they release for each numbered version is grating. Money talks though...

There are musou titles for two Zeldas, Fire Emblem, and Persona in addition to the mainline series games. That seems like a lot to me.

It has been a few years since I've tried a musou title. A BotW prequel backdrop might be enough to convince me to give one another shot.

YOU LIKE DARKSIDERS 3 YOUR OPINION IS INVALID!

Video is a bit dated but this is still the timeline I follow:

Dyni wrote:
garion333 wrote:

There really aren't that many of them...

On Switch at least. The three different versions on Dynasty Warriors they release for each numbered version is grating. Money talks though...

There are musou titles for two Zeldas, Fire Emblem, and Persona in addition to the mainline series games. That seems like a lot to me.

It has been a few years since I've tried a musou title. A BotW prequel backdrop might be enough to convince me to give one another shot.

I dunno which ones you've tried but I dug Fire Emblem Warriors more than I expected, so I'm actually pretty interested in this.

ClockworkHouse wrote:

YOU LIKE DARKSIDERS 3 YOUR OPINION IS INVALID!

Nevermind, opinion invalidated.

ClockworkHouse wrote:

YOU LIKE DARKSIDERS 3 YOUR OPINION IS INVALID!

I finally build up the courage to bare my soul, and this is how you repay me?

Dyni wrote:
ClockworkHouse wrote:

YOU LIKE DARKSIDERS 3 YOUR OPINION IS INVALID!

I finally build up the courage to bare my soul, and this is how you repay me?

Put clothes back on that soul, sir.

I’m very in the new Hyrule Warriors, but I really want to see some reviews first. If it’s 99% the same as the existing one there’s probably not much point for me. I’ve put 45-ish hours into definitive edition, so there’s hundreds of hours left in it for me if I want.

I don't really count how many hours left I have in a Warriors game because you can generally put in an endless amount of hours. I consider excitement factor. Am I still enjoying trying out new characters? New moves? Etc.

Hyruke Warriors had a wide range of characters and moves, which was it's strength. That will likely be gone now and replaced with a story focus. I'm hoping it'll make for a slightly smaller, but more interesting game than, say, DW10 will whenever they get around to that.

FE Warriors didn't work for me much the same way the FE characters don't excite in Smash. Yay, another sword user.

I am curious to see if they manage to bring in any of the open-ended, environmental combat from BotW, but I seriously doubt it.

Of interest to no one but myself, No More Heroes 3 has been delayed to 2021.

Reminds me that I never did get around to playing NMH 2. I should go dig that up and finally give it a try.

garion333 wrote:

I don't really count how many hours left I have in a Warriors game because you can generally put in an endless amount of hours. I consider excitement factor. Am I still enjoying trying out new characters? New moves? Etc.

Thank you this is very helpful enabling

Warriors Orochi 4 Ultimate is on Switch, and I'd recommend it highly.
It's not even attempting to be historically accurate (which I consider a plus), and has all the characters from Samurai and Dynasty, plus their guest characters.