Assassin's Creed Odyssey RPG-all

Old Man Pi wrote:
Balthezor wrote:

I recently tried playing this again on PC. I get this weird stutter where the FPS dips to the 0 or 1. It is very annoying. I never had this issue before when I played, same system, a year ago.

I am playing it on a 2080ti, 32GB RAM, and i7 9700k, SSD. I verified the files, uninstalled MSI afterburner and completely uninstalled/cleaned the Geforce drivers and reinstalled them. Still same issue. Wondering if someone had this issue and was able to figure out a fix.

Is your page file on your SSD?
I recently moved mine to HDD to free up space, and it caused massive stuttering in COD Warzone.

Yes it is. Only HDD I own is for data storage.

Balthezor wrote:

I recently tried playing this again on PC. I get this weird stutter where the FPS dips to the 0 or 1. It is very annoying. I never had this issue before when I played, same system, a year ago.

I am playing it on a 2080ti, 32GB RAM, and i7 9700k, SSD. I verified the files, uninstalled MSI afterburner and completely uninstalled/cleaned the Geforce drivers and reinstalled them. Still same issue. Wondering if someone had this issue and was able to figure out a fix.

I've recently picked up Odyssey again after not playing it since January, and I've noticed the same thing (I think). Every couple of minutes or so, everything freezes for a few seconds, then the game continues just fine as if nothing happened. I'm still experimenting with settings, but so far I found a couple of separate things that seem to help (pending further gameplay to confirm):

1) Running in borderless window mode rather than fullscreen mode (seemed to have helped, but not quite ideal for me because I get better performance in fullscreen with fullscreen optimisation turned off on the executable [in the compatibility tab of the .exe's properties]).
2) Raising the refresh rate setting in-game (I've a 144Hz display, but the in-game setting was on 60Hz; raising it up to 144 yesterday evening appears to have helped so far).

In general, it seems fiddling around with fullscreen optimisation, vsync, refresh rates and so forth can have an impact on play, though it's a pain testing out the various combinations, and I suspect the solution may vary from machine to machine.

Ravanon wrote:
Balthezor wrote:

I recently tried playing this again on PC. I get this weird stutter where the FPS dips to the 0 or 1. It is very annoying. I never had this issue before when I played, same system, a year ago.

I am playing it on a 2080ti, 32GB RAM, and i7 9700k, SSD. I verified the files, uninstalled MSI afterburner and completely uninstalled/cleaned the Geforce drivers and reinstalled them. Still same issue. Wondering if someone had this issue and was able to figure out a fix.

I've recently picked up Odyssey again after not playing it since January, and I've noticed the same thing (I think). Every couple of minutes or so, everything freezes for a few seconds, then the game continues just fine as if nothing happened. I'm still experimenting with settings, but so far I found a couple of separate things that seem to help (pending further gameplay to confirm):

1) Running in borderless window mode rather than fullscreen mode (seemed to have helped, but not quite ideal for me because I get better performance in fullscreen with fullscreen optimisation turned off on the executable [in the compatibility tab of the .exe's properties]).
2) Raising the refresh rate setting in-game (I've a 144Hz display, but the in-game setting was on 60Hz; raising it up to 144 yesterday evening appears to have helped so far).

In general, it seems fiddling around with fullscreen optimisation, vsync, refresh rates and so forth can have an impact on play, though it's a pain testing out the various combinations, and I suspect the solution may vary from machine to machine.

Thank you. I also read that going to the game directory and turning off full screen optimization on the exe helps. It still does it for me, but not as often. It's crazy because the game looks amazing and its running like 70-90 fps for me, but the big stutter it goes to 1 or 0 fps. I feel like I had this issue before but I can't remember what I did to stop it, since I must have since I put in 50 hours in it last year.

So I've made it to Atlantis and

Spoiler:

I still have to kill people to scan Isu data caches. Why? Nothing in the story explains why there'd be people hostile to me here.

Quintin_Stone wrote:

So I've made it to Atlantis and

Spoiler:

I still have to kill people to scan Isu data caches. Why? Nothing in the story explains why there'd be people hostile to me here.

I was also a little confused by that. You have the blessing of a god to go around and solve people's problems, so why would you be forbidden from going, well, anywhere?

I need to get back to this and wrap it up.

It wasn't until my level was in the 60s that I realized each weapon/piece of armor can be disguised to look like any other piece of the same type that you've found.

It took me a long time to find that feature and I was looking for it.

Depending on when y'all were playing, I'm pretty sure it was not a thing at launch and was added by an update.

And it is available from level ... eight I think? So you only have to look like a clown on the tutorial island.

Yeah, it's a long tutorial. In fact it lasts longer than Kephallonia, because the entire main quest chain in Megaris is a tutorial for conquest battles. But the title screen appears when leaving Kephallonia.

It took 169 hours, spread over 21 months, but I finally unlocked the last trophy today. Wrapped up the last expansion and free DLC quests this weekend. It was nice coming back to Greece, but I’m also glad to be done with it. Just an absolutely massive game, and thank goodness there aren’t trophies for completing every icon on the map.

Bring on Valhalla!

Just finished the main story last night myself after having the game since launch. I’m going to probably give it a break before moving on to the DLC. After playing and finishing three third person action games in a row (Ghost of Tsushima, God of War, then this), I think I’m ready for something different. I’ll most likely pick my Tomb Kings Total War game back up, plus I’ve been itching for a good turn based RPG so maybe I’ll try and finally finish Pillars of Eternity or Original Sin 2.

With this one wrapped up that leaves Syndicate as the only main AC game I haven’t completed yet. I need to wrap that one up before Valhalla.

This is the first main line Assassin's Creed game I've really played Brotherhood. I played a little bit of Origin's but didn't stick with it very long. That being said, I'm absolutely loving this game. I have played so much of it over the past month. It has been one of those games where I continue to think about it when I'm not playing it. I did not expect to enjoy it so much.

I remember when it came out everyone seemed to be a bit down on it. What were those reasons?

Mostly folks were salty because Ubisoft was charging a couple bucks for completely optional XP & Gold boosters. Reviewers were absolutely certain that it was impossible to complete the game without paying for those pernicious microtransactions when all they really had to do was not play the game like a reviewer.

You can't play the game straight through with only the main story quests. However there are (checks notes) a bazillion and two other ways to get XP and money and upgrades. Further, there's enough variety outside the main story that if you can't stand a particular extraquestricular activity there are likely two other activities you'll enjoy enough that you forget to get back to the main quest for a while.

Odyssey is not a game that takes you by the hand and tells you a story while you whack bad guys. So don't play it like that, and you'll be fine.

Valid Clockesque critique, however: Assassin's Creed: Odyssey is big. Very big. Too big for some people. Even without being a completionist, finishing the main quests and the DLC is going to take on the order of sixty hours, probably more. So be aware of that.

I started playing this a while ago, then life intervened and I haven't had time to touch it in about three months. I'd guess I'm only something like three or four hours in. Should I just pick up where I left off, or am I going to be completely lost?

The game is so big you may find yourself dropping it and coming back a few times by the time you finish.

If you're still on the starting island of Kephallonia, maybe it would be okay restarting? Otherwise just read your quest log to refresh your memory, and go attack some wildlife to reacquaint yourself with the controls.

Just pick up from where you are. Most of the big stuff is ahead of you. The game is so late gated you're fine.

BadKen wrote:

Valid Clockesque critique, however: Assassin's Creed: Odyssey is big. Very big. Too big for some people. Even without being a completionist, finishing the main quests and the DLC is going to take on the order of sixty hours, probably more. So be aware of that.

I'm already over level 60, I think 60 hours is already well behind me.

The person at the top of the Cultist page is the only face that isn't tinted red. I'm not sure if I should just finish the story (I feel like there can't be much left) or if I should explore the world until I get bored. The past few days I have been doing all the blue missions, finding all the...I can't remember what they are called, the little tablet things that give you a riddle and you have to try to find the spot, and clearing out the tombs.

I can't get enough of the world they have created.

A few questions:

Does the blacksmith in the cave is Makedonia do more than what's on the tin?
Is the Atlantis quest-line only finished in the DLC?
Are the DLC's worth the price?
Is there any reason to continue the Arena?

BadKen wrote:

Mostly folks were salty because Ubisoft was charging a couple bucks for completely optional XP & Gold boosters. Reviewers were absolutely certain that it was impossible to complete the game without paying for those pernicious microtransactions when all they really had to do was not play the game like a reviewer.

I hadn't thought of it before, but this game is a really good example of that mismatch between how reviewers play games (and often how enthusiasts in communities like this one play them) and how many other players will experience something. When you're wedded to the critical path for the sake of a deadline, or because you have seventy other games in your queue that you've gotten in the last few Steam sales, side content can be a frustrating distraction, especially if the game requires that you engage with it. When you have time to let a game breathe, that side content can be a welcome addition.

Likewise, when you only need to focus on what's necessary to finish the game, side content that's especially repetitious or shallow can seem more fresh when you only touch on it occasionally. I've definitely seen a few games that seem to get more praise from critics because the main path is easy to push through.

Thanks for the example! (And the name check. You're right that Odyssey is intimidatingly large. I keep meaning to go back to it, but I spent something like a dozen hours just on the first island. I don't have the two hundred hours it would seem to take to play the game properly.)

EverythingsTentative wrote:

Does the blacksmith in the cave is Makedonia do more than what's on the tin?
Is the Atlantis quest-line only finished in the DLC?
Are the DLC's worth the price?
Is there any reason to continue the Arena?

1. I'm not sure I remember who that is, sorry
2. Yes
3. Legacy of the Hidden Blade is "just" more Odyssey. It takes you to a region that the base game didn't really give you a reason to visit. I really didn't care for how they handled a particular plot point, and overall found it fairly forgettable. Fate of Atlantis, on the other hand, was excellent. It also, i feel, completes the story. Similar to Dragon Age Inquisition's Trespasser DLC (if you played that), it feels mandatory to both Kassandra/Alexios and Layla going forward.
4. Once you've topped the ranks, there's no real reason to return that I recall.

Edit: To expand further on 3, if you're looking to save some money, just get The Fate of Atlantis. But if you buy the full season pass, it also includes Assassin's Creed III Remastered, which is a hell of a deal.

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EverythingsTentative wrote:

A few questions:

1) Does the blacksmith in the cave is Makedonia do more than what's on the tin?
2) Is the Atlantis quest-line only finished in the DLC?
3) Are the DLC's worth the price?
4) Is there any reason to continue the Arena?

1) I don't think so. I only visited him once though.
2) Yes.
3) Yes, in my opinion. They were enjoyable, if only for some new/refreshing dialogue with existing characters, some new and interesting characters, and a few refreshing changes of scenery.
4) Yes, though I think only up to a point, and I don't know what point you're at.

merphle wrote:

4) Yes, though I think only up to a point, and I don't know what point you're at. :)

I have fought the "surprise" opponent.

Does anyone know how many tiers of mercenaries there are? I've moved into S ranks.

Do the relationships develop further. It feels weird to commit to a relationship and then never have a reason to go back to that island. I felt like I was cheating after falling hard for Kyra, then speeding the day with an insatiable older woman. The Eagle Bearers sexcapades must not be part of her legend.

merphle wrote:

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Oh, it's on.

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Noob.

FWIW, that's a complete playthrough with Kassandra and with Alexios, and a New Game+ with Kassandra. What can I say, I like to feel that I'm getting my money's worth when I play a game.

I'm almost ashamed to say I spent more time playing Mass Effect 2! More time with AC Unity also, but I played a lot of the Unity co-op missions.

I really need to get on that AC:Odyssey Discovery Tour thing...

BadKen wrote:

Noob.

I am humbled. I only played through the game (and DLCs) once, with the one correct main character of the game. I also intended to try the Discovery Tour, since that sounded neat, but once I was done with the DLC, I was exhausted. That was a hell of a week.

EverythingsTentative wrote:

Does the blacksmith in the cave is Makedonia do more than what's on the tin?

If you're talking about the one at Hephaistos' Workshop (though I think that's in Malis, not Makedonia), he can also upgrade Engravings beyond level 5.

I need to gripe about the Atlantis DLC:

Spoiler:

I've been pretty vocal about my dislike for all the Animus/Abstergo/Isu stuff in general, and I'd enjoy the series more if they just told historical stories without the crappy framing narrative. But for the most part in the main storyline that stuff wasn't too obtrusive, so it didn't bother me too much.

But in the Atlantis DLC? Holy sh*t does all the dumb Isu nonsense make everything SO MUCH worse. Act 1 and 2 have you going through the Greek afterlife. That's cool! It adds some fun new environments, a bunch of mythological figures, and best of all it gives you a chance to reconnect with some friends who died and help them move on. That stuff's all great.

EXCEPT NONE OF IT ACTUALLY HAPPENED. That sh*t's not just an Animus simulation, it's an Animus simulation of an Isu simulation created by yet another Isu simulation. It's not just fake, it's super extra double fake. You don't actually get to help Phoibe recover her memories and reunite with her parents, it's all just a made-up training scenario created by an AI construct. All that great storytelling completely undercut by the fact that it's just a convenient fiction created so Kassandra can bond with her dumb staff or whatever. Who even f*cking cares.

And while I'm already ranting, the First Blade DLC and its forced straight romance narrative can completely go and f*ck itself as well.

And in contrast,

Spoiler:

I love all of the Animus/Abstergo/Isu stuff. I wish there was more of it. I don't care if I get pulled out of the simulation to do stuff in the modern world periodically -- hell, I look forward to it! And the simulations inside the simulation are just *MWAH*. Mix more of this crazy sci-fi in with the deep historical worldbuilding.

Also... this is a video game. None of this actually actually happened.

Let's imagine, for a moment, that I didn't have more games than a reasonable person could ever play and that I was thinking about giving this another spin. And let's imagine that the base game was currently on sale for $15 while the gold edition was on sale for $25. Is the DLC all post-game content? Does this include that infamous XP boost? Is the remaster of Assassin's Creed III actually much of a value-add?

As an addendum to the above: if the Antiquity Pack that includes Origins and Odyssey (but not the DLC content for either) were also $25, would that be a better use of those extra $10 than the gold edition of Odyssey alone?

The Atlantis and First Blade DLC are both post-game content, Secrets of Greece is just a bunch of optional sidequests that can be played at any time. I think the XP boost is only in the Ultimate Edition?

You CAN play all of the DLCs before finishing the main story, but I strongly recommend waiting until after. Don't get the Ultimate edition - the XP boost is not worth it.

Odyssey + DLCs + AC3R is a heck of a combination. I liked AC3, but I know it got a lot of flak. I haven't tried the remaster yet.

Odyssey + Origins is great as well, though the engine for Origins and Odyssey is essentially the same, so you might get worn out a bit. Origins is quite a good game, but I think Odyssey is superior.

Odyssey's expansions requires you to be high enough level to access it. I don't believe you need to have finished the base game's multi-pronged main quest to access it, but it's likely that's what will end up happening anyway.

The XP boost is not included in the Gold edition.

I don't know your history with Assassin's Creed in general. AC3 is a strange beast, and the remaster smooths some of the rough edges that were left after its initial release. It's narratively ambitious, wraps up the overarching metaplot that began in AC1, and was buggy and clunky as hell. If the idea of running around Revolutionary New England intrigues you, it's worth checking out.

AC3's story also takes its sweet time to get going. Spoilers that may intrigue you or convince you to skip it:

Spoiler:

While the marketing and picture on the tin has you playing as Conner, a native american, the game starts with you in the shoes of Haythem Kenway, a charismatic guy caught up in various intrigues around Boston. You spend a few hours with him, do assassiny stuff, explore Boston, play tutorials, etc. Then, SURPRISE, you find out he's a Templar, not the Assassin the game leads you to initially believe he is. He also fathers a child with a native american woman.

That child is Conner, and the game has you spend a few more hours with him and his tribe, doing more tutorials, before tragedy inevitably strikes. Conner joins the Assassins, and the game plays out much the same as any other AC game. Revenge, stabbing, daddy issues, and, for the first time, sailing.

Unless the idea of running around mythical Greek settings in the DLC specifically appeals to you, it may be more worth your time to get the Antiquity Pack you mentioned. Two gorgeous, massive games, and settings. Bayek and Aya in Origins are one of the best power couples in gaming. Kassandra is endearing as hell.