Hidden Gems of Netflix's Watch Instantly

I recently let my Netflix subscription lapse but I may have to watch this at someone's house. I wonder if Netflix will ever put out DVDs of their stuff.

They have before. I remember seeing Stranger Things DVDs at a lot of stores.

They released the first two seasons of Bojack Horseman on Blu-Ray and DVD, and then not the rest because f*ck you I guess.

Nevin73 wrote:

Was the court case surrounding Enola Holmes resolved?

According to Wikipedia it hasn't even begun. Seems like a garbage lawsuit.

Nevin73 wrote:

Was the court case surrounding Enola Holmes resolved?

I just looked into this, but I can't find any recent conclusions. Maybe they're just going to release it regardless?

The story of this lawsuit feels like something Cory Doctorow made up -- there's two versions of the same fictional character, written by the same person, where one is heartless and the other more personable. The colder version is public domain, remixable. The warmer version is owned by an estate.

So if you want to write your own Sherlock stories, or have even been paid to do so by Netflix or whoever, your creative options for character development would be constrained. But not for the usual reason of deviating too far from an understood character, but kind of the opposite, depending on who you ask.

From the estate's point of view you've gone to close to "their" Sherlock and they have to prove it solely by defining feelings, heart, warmth, all the interior world/Romantic aspect of humanity that defies description.

From the semi-fan's point of view a newly made depiction of warm Sherlock who chooses love actually IS a deviation from their accepted robot Sherlock, because for the past century most of the remixes stick to that one. Why wouldn't they? It's free.

And I have to guess for intense Sherlock fans, the warmer Sherlock would be appropriate, because presumably they'd recognize that version from the later fiction.

Meanwhile, I've been out of the loop, having read a few of the stories. Where's the story where Sherlock discovers emotion? Analyses feelings with the same ferocity as figuring out who killed the baker's prize daughter (it was the dog). I want to see a bedeviled man realize there are effectively no clues to this mystery in the shared material world. The clues are all locked away in everyone's heads, fuzzily communicated in all that babble he's been ignoring for decades. And now he's got to grill these people, with equal parts precision and naivety. No crime or crime scene, just untrustworthy witnesses.

Wait, not Doctorow, I want a version of the courtroom conflict as interpreted by Armando Iannucci.

The actual show that got made with Enola Holmes looks fun.

MannishBoy wrote:

Fun nostalgic show I originally watched on YouTube:

*Cobra Kai*

Seasons 1 & 2 are moving to Netflix, with a new season 3 coming next year.

Yes!

I remember the trailer, but never paid to watch it. Definitely been wanting to see.

Stele wrote:
MannishBoy wrote:

Fun nostalgic show I originally watched on YouTube:

*Cobra Kai*

Seasons 1 & 2 are moving to Netflix, with a new season 3 coming next year.

Yes!

I remember the trailer, but never paid to watch it. Definitely been wanting to see.

It went free with ads on YouTube a long time ago But now you can watch it without commercials anyway.

Oh man I missed that. Just remember the YouTube red thing.

Most YouTube ads don't play on Chrome with my ad blocker... Hmm.

Stele wrote:

Oh man I missed that. Just remember the YouTube red thing.

Most YouTube ads don't play on Chrome with my ad blocker... Hmm.

I think as Red/Premium was failing they released a lot of that content with ads.

Danjo Olivaw wrote:
Nevin73 wrote:

Was the court case surrounding Enola Holmes resolved?

I just looked into this, but I can't find any recent conclusions. Maybe they're just going to release it regardless?

The story of this lawsuit feels like something Cory Doctorow made up -- there's two versions of the same fictional character, written by the same person, where one is heartless and the other more personable. The colder version is public domain, remixable. The warmer version is owned by an estate.

Popular culture (especially Sherlock) exaggerates how cold and emotionless Holmes was.

The Sign of the Four: "Sherlock Holmes and I looked blankly at each other, and then burst simultaneously into an uncontrollable fit of laughter."

A Scandal in Bohemia: "With a nod he vanished into the bedroom, whence he emerged in five minutes tweed-suited and respectable, as of old. Putting his hands into his pockets, he stretched out his legs in front of the fire, and laughed heartily for some minutes."
"'Well, really!' he cried, and then he choked; and laughed again until he was obliged to lie back, limp and helpless, in the chair."

The Red-Headed League: "Sherlock Holmes and I surveyed this curt announcement and the rueful face behind it, until the comical side of the affair so completely over-topped every other consideration that we both burst out into a roar of laughter."

These are Holmes stories #2, #3, and #4.

Finished the second season of the new adventures of Monkey last night and I remember absolutely nothing about it at all - apart from some of the location scenery. If your filming something in New Zealand you’ve got to make it good or else your viewer is just going to be looking at the scenery and not what your ‘actors’ are doing.

Not so sad face from me. I enjoyed it for what it was, wished it were a lot better, and will move on and hope the next Dune movie holds up.

Honestly not sad to see it go.

I loved the books, but the TV show was incredibly tedious and I didn't even make it through the first season.

I'm not sure, but is this the best stretch of Lucifer episodes ever? And longer, too, so that there's time to breathe during them?

Well, so much for Altered Carbon season 3.

I just binged through the first two seasons about a month ago, too, and was looking forward to more.

Hrdina wrote:

Well, so much for Altered Carbon season 3.

I just binged through the first two seasons about a month ago, too, and was looking forward to more.

There is also a animated movie that takes place in the save universe.

Baron Of Hell wrote:

There is also a animated movie that takes place in the save universe.

But it's awful.

They also killed I am not okay with this and that was a cool show.

I know netflix is a gamble and that is how they pump out so much good stuff but I do wish they stuck with the shows more. At least give it a season to wrap up.

Quintin_Stone wrote:
Baron Of Hell wrote:

There is also a animated movie that takes place in the save universe.

But it's awful.

To each there own. I liked it.

Stealthpizza wrote:

They also killed I am not okay with this and that was a cool show.

I know netflix is a gamble and that is how they pump out so much good stuff but I do wish they stuck with the shows more. At least give it a season to wrap up.

I believe they may even have a deliberate strategy of killing off all but very successful shows at Series 2. I think all the initial negotiations take into account 2 series and if Netflix want more there is a renegotiation with a commensurate hike in fees to the creators. Sadly it sounds very believable.

bbk1980 wrote:
Stealthpizza wrote:

They also killed I am not okay with this and that was a cool show.

I know netflix is a gamble and that is how they pump out so much good stuff but I do wish they stuck with the shows more. At least give it a season to wrap up.

I believe they may even have a deliberate strategy of killing off all but very successful shows at Series 2. I think all the initial negotiations take into account 2 series and if Netflix want more there is a renegotiation with a commensurate hike in fees to the creators. Sadly it sounds very believable.

Why wouldn't they do that?

I suspect that the impact to Netflix's subscriber numbers from cancelling shows and starting new ones is negligible. Users just scroll over to something else and keep watching.

It makes a certain sense, but speaking for myself, it's training me to not even try new shows since it feels like odds are high Netflix won't invest in it for more than a year or two. There are so few monster hits on Netflix (Stranger Things, The Witcher, Queer Eye) that everything else feels disposable, expendable, and pointless. Sometimes shows need time to simmer a figure themselves out, and Netflix doesn't seem inclined to let that happen.

I assume they've weighed the difference between attracting new subscribers vs alienating current ones and made their decision accordingly. It just bums me out.

On the flip side you can have shows that go on well past their sell by date. For instance I loved Supernatural but the writers ran out of good ideas years ago.

Even the Marvel shows got shut down but that was a Disney thing.

Articles a year or so back said season 3 was the cutoff for Netflix shows, after something good got cancelled. Can't remember what but it was probably covered in this thread.

I just wish they'd make a decision before the season so these shows could have a chance to end.

Found it. From June 2019 after Santa Clarita Diet was cancelled.

Baron Of Hell wrote:
Quintin_Stone wrote:
Baron Of Hell wrote:

There is also a animated movie that takes place in the save universe.

But it's awful.

To each there own. I liked it.

Ditto. Thought it was better than S2

beanman101283 wrote:

It makes a certain sense, but speaking for myself, it's training me to not even try new shows since it feels like odds are high Netflix won't invest in it for more than a year or two.

Yeah, that ends up being my issue. This is especially the case when a lot of the shows these streaming services are picking up are clearly of the HBO/FX/Showtime variety where they have a defined 4 or 5 season story arc. When that's the case, I'm not compelled to invest in it when it might get canned before Season 2 is even released so it's not like me watching it when it comes out makes any difference.

It also feels shortsighted because Netflix has already readily admitted that it's legacy binge-watching shows like Friends that blows the ratings of everything else on the service out of the water, and those shows are quickly being pulled off the service at an increasing rate. They may not be hurting now, but they might be 5 years from now when every network has their own streaming service and Netflix's only back catalogue is a bunch of programs with 20 episodes and ends on a cliffhanger.

ranalin wrote:
Baron Of Hell wrote:
Quintin_Stone wrote:
Baron Of Hell wrote:

There is also a animated movie that takes place in the save universe.

But it's awful.

To each there own. I liked it.

Ditto. Thought it was better than S2

Did the season end gracefully?

It's not like this is just a Netflix thing. When it was just basic cable cool shows got cancelled after 1 or 2 seasons all the time. If anything I think services like Netflix have given us a chance to watch shows that basic cable would have never given a chance to. For example, something like Santa Clarita Diet probably never gets a chance on basic cable and for sure doesn't make it 3 seasons.