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Yeah, I'm pretty sure it's a Nolan thing. He is notoriously pro-cinematic-experience.

By the way, in case you didn't know (I didn't):

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I mean, maybe. It's also a perfectly normal English word. https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dic...

Stele wrote:

EDIT: The Bill and Ted thing is confusing. Some articles say it's a $25 purchase, some claim it's a rental.

You can pre-order to own for 24.99 or you can wait until 8-28 and rent it.

Bill & Ted

Medmey wrote:
Stele wrote:

EDIT: The Bill and Ted thing is confusing. Some articles say it's a $25 purchase, some claim it's a rental.

You can pre-order to own for 24.99 or you can wait until 8-28 and rent it.

Bill & Ted

You're right that does say pre-order to own.

One article said they were all to rent and Fandango Now was $5 cheaper. The text on Fandango Now clearly says 30-day rental

Another article said rent for $20 there, buy for $25 elsewhere. And the text on Amazon and Google Play, where I would probably buy because I have some credit, neither one says anything about a rental. Just pre-order for $25.

DudleySmith wrote:

I mean, maybe. It's also a perfectly normal English word. https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dic...

Yes, but there's this:

https://www.instagram.com/p/B6jbqXQp...

@yankeepapa13 wrote:

Definitely the best wrap gift I’ve ever received. @honeycombmodular designed cube puzzle, 2 frames of 70 mm IMAX, a beautiful card with instructions and a rather nice note from @thomashayslip. The fanboys would go crazy. Heck, I’m not even a fanboy and I’m pretty crazy over this. @tenetfilm

farley3k wrote:

I am so happy DC has stooped with all the happy films and is going darker...sarcasm off...

Do they not look at their box office results? Wonder Woman, and Shazam were huge but the dark dark stuff bombed or at least did worse so why keep doing it? Are the execs just depressed and have to push it on the rest of us?

Batman has and always will be dark. Even the Batman TV show which was campy AF still had dark undertones

The more I realize that it's based on The Long Halloween, the more I get interested.

Rat Boy wrote:

The more I realize that it's based on The Long Halloween, the more I get interested.

If it didn't seem so well planned out, I would worry about the inclusion of so many villains. But this seems to be plotted for that specific reason with the focus not necessarily on one a singular or couple of villains like in the past, but more building up his rogue's gallery, focusing on Batman's detective prowess, and the mystery behind it all.

That was something I always appreciated about Nolan's trilogy. You'd have Scarecrow continually popping up throughout all three movies. And Colin Farrel is entirely unrecognizable. The cast of this thing is just bananas.

ranalin wrote:
farley3k wrote:

I am so happy DC has stooped with all the happy films and is going darker...sarcasm off...

Do they not look at their box office results? Wonder Woman, and Shazam were huge but the dark dark stuff bombed or at least did worse so why keep doing it? Are the execs just depressed and have to push it on the rest of us?

Batman has and always will be dark. Even the Batman TV show which was campy AF still had dark undertones

I think they are hoping to recapture the success they had with the Christopher Nolan Trilogy. As much as I enjoy superhero flicks I am getting tired of yet another rehash of (insert character here).

ranalin wrote:

Batman has and always will be dark. Even the Batman TV show which was campy AF still had dark undertones

Yes, but you don't have to revel in the darkness, dive into it as deeply as possible. The first Batman movie had a few dark moments but didn't make it oppressive. So did the first Nolan one.

I'm not convinced that Pattinson is a big enough guy to convincingly play badass Batman, but I had my doubts about Batfleck and he is my second favorite Batman (behind Kevin Conroy, of course).

farley3k wrote:
ranalin wrote:

Batman has and always will be dark. Even the Batman TV show which was campy AF still had dark undertones

Yes, but you don't have to revel in the darkness, dive into it as deeply as possible. The first Batman movie had a few dark moments but didn't make it oppressive. So did the first Nolan one.

The source material just doesn't give much room. Nolan's movie were modeled after Year One, and The Long Halloween is a continuation of Year One. They're not happy books...

Ok.

It has to be unrelentingly depressing and dark. They can't make any other kind of movie.

Actually that is kind of fair since that is how I remember the comics from the 80s and 90s which is why I was a Marvel fan instead. To each their own. I have a lot of movies to watch so I am happy.

Yeah, Matt Reeves doesn't usually direct happy movies.
I say bring it!

farley3k wrote:

Ok.

It has to be unrelentingly depressing and dark. They can't make any other kind of movie.

Actually that is kind of fair since that is how I remember the comics from the 80s and 90s which is why I was a Marvel fan instead. To each their own. I have a lot of movies to watch so I am happy.

Do you think it would be different if there was more of a dichotomy between the different heroes? The DCEU was built on Man of Steel, Batman vs. Superman, and Justice League for a foundation, all are really dark, drab, and depressing themselves. If we had Batman's corner of the DCEU as being dark and noire'y while the rest of the universe is colorful and hopeful. That is how it has been portrayed in the comics. It does seem overkill when even Metropolis seems constantly overcast and has a Superman who is really poorly written.

Aquaman wasn't that dark. I found it more fun than bleak.

Garth wrote:
farley3k wrote:

Ok.

It has to be unrelentingly depressing and dark. They can't make any other kind of movie.

Actually that is kind of fair since that is how I remember the comics from the 80s and 90s which is why I was a Marvel fan instead. To each their own. I have a lot of movies to watch so I am happy.

Do you think it would be different if there was more of a dichotomy between the different heroes? The DCEU was built on Man of Steel, Batman vs. Superman, and Justice League for a foundation, all are really dark, drab, and depressing themselves. If we had Batman's corner of the DCEU as being dark and noire'y while the rest of the universe is colorful and hopeful. That is how it has been portrayed in the comics. It does seem overkill when even Metropolis seems constantly overcast and has a Superman who is really poorly written.

DC rushed in without laying a proper foundation. They tried to get to Justice League in their 3rd movie while The Avengers was the 6th movie in the MCU. Also Zack Snyder has a penchant for dark noire type stuff which works with Batman but doesn't work so well with most of the other DC A-listers. Wonder Woman is the only good DC movie with Suicide Squad coming in a distant second IMHO and most of the movies beside MoS, BvS, and JL feel completely disjointed with no real sense where they belong in the timeline or if they even exist in the same timeline. I mean Wonder Woman was active in 1918 and 1984, but she comes out of nowhere as an almost completely unknown hero in BvS. Also they completely compressed The Death and Return of Superman down to almost nothing and that probably could have been a 3 movie arc.

That new trailer for Raised By Wolves is so good. I can't wait.

Any bets on how long until New mutants is out on streaming? In theaters Friday just made me laugh.

I give it 3 weeks tops.

Rykin wrote:

Wonder Woman is the only good DC movie with Suicide Squad coming in a distant second IMHO

I enjoyed Birds of Prey a lot more than Suicide Squad. YMMV.

Birds of Prey is so much better than Suicide Squad.

I thought Birds of Prey was a nonsensical mess... but so was Suicide Squad.

I liked both movies.

BadKen wrote:
Rykin wrote:

Wonder Woman is the only good DC movie with Suicide Squad coming in a distant second IMHO

I enjoyed Birds of Prey a lot more than Suicide Squad. YMMV.

I loved Birds of Prey. It was just so damn fun.

BadKen wrote:

Yeah, I'm pretty sure it's a Nolan thing. He is notoriously pro-cinematic-experience.

By the way, in case you didn't know (I didn't):

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Kenneth Branagh's character is named Andrei Sator....

BadKen wrote:

Yeah, I'm pretty sure it's a Nolan thing. He is notoriously pro-cinematic-experience.

It's a pretty... um... interesting stance to demand your customers risk a pandemic to see your movies. It doesn't make me want to rush out to see any of his movies, to be honest.

I enjoyed Suicide Squad. Wasn't great, wasn't terrible. It fell flat in a couple of places, but overall I thought it had good action and the humor usually worked.

I laughed at the Suicide Squad 2 roll-call "teaser" that doesn't even have any footage. I'm not hugely into comic books, so I don't know who most of the characters are and can only assume many of them will die.

Yondu Udonta? Flula "AutoTunes" Borg? X-CON guy from Ant-man? Dr. Who? Heimdall? Malcolm Reynolds? Pete "Seems really talented when he's not a trainwreck" Davidson? Sean "My brother Peter is directing and making me do motion capture for a small furry animal again" Gunn?

Edit: Also a sneak peek with some behind-the-scenes stuff:

Nevin73 wrote:

second favorite Batman (behind Kevin Conroy, of course).

Thank you. Kevin Conroy and Mark Hamill set the bar for Batman and Joker.

While we're at it TAS and the companion Superman cartoon are the best on screen adaptations of either material, still. DC still hasn't managed to capture that magic with any small or big screen version since.

Although Rosenbaum was a fantastic Lex Luthor on Smallville.

Stele wrote:
Nevin73 wrote:

second favorite Batman (behind Kevin Conroy, of course).

Thank you. Kevin Conroy and Mark Hamill set the bar for Batman and Joker.

While we're at it TAS and the companion Superman cartoon are the best on screen adaptations of either material, still. DC still hasn't managed to capture that magic with any small or big screen version since.

Although Rosenbaum was a fantastic Lex Luthor on Smallville and Flash on JLU.

FTFY

Modern DCU ranking (best to worst): MoS, BvS (extended), WW,... Shazam, Aquaman,... Justice League, Birds of Prey, Suicide Squad.

I really like the first three movies on the list and I think the last three are nigh unwatchable. Birds of Prey beats Suicide Squad because the storytelling is more coherent, though Suicide Squad has a better ensemble cast.