Sports and The Pandemic

Eduardo Rodriguez of the Red Sox, who tested positive and then later negative, is being evaluated more after failing to get through 20 warm up pitches.

Some reports (can't find anything other than local BOS radio) are it is heart related complications.

The long-term impacts of this thing remain unknown. If I'm a highly tuned athletic machine, why risk damage to my heart/lungs, literally the engine of my "sports car"?

Can I afford to even contract this thing and still keep my livelihood as a pro athlete?

^Yeah, he has myocarditis, common in about 10-20% of covid patients.

Some women's US rowers got it, and they talk about how hard it's been to get back to competitive condition:

“As of today, over 3 months after my symptoms went away, I am working on getting back into the shape I was in in early February and March before all of the setbacks. While it only took me a month to feel like I was in my own body again,” Regan wrote, using an eyeroll emoji, “I have teammates who were dealing with complications from COVID for over 2 months.

Nasty stuff. Stay away.

I also see that four Marlins tested positive for Covid while in Philadelphia. Gosh, what a surprise, athletes from Miami testing positive for Covid!

Godzilla Blitz wrote:

^Yeah, he has myocarditis, common in about 10-20% of covid patients.

Some women's US rowers got it, and they talk about how hard it's been to get back to competitive condition:

“As of today, over 3 months after my symptoms went away, I am working on getting back into the shape I was in in early February and March before all of the setbacks. While it only took me a month to feel like I was in my own body again,” Regan wrote, using an eyeroll emoji, “I have teammates who were dealing with complications from COVID for over 2 months.

Nasty stuff. Stay away.

I also see that four Marlins tested positive for Covid while in Philadelphia. Gosh, what a surprise, athletes from Miami testing positive for Covid!

14 cases now.

Marlins are cancelling their home opener and staying in Philly.

I didn't see much push back from Canada essentially banning the Blue Jays from Canada. Starting to look like the best idea.

I hope MLB figures this out, but this Marlins story has a very "officials are huddling on the court right before scheduled tipoff of this Jazz/Thunder game" vibe to it.

https://twitter.com/DownGoesBrown/st...

I was very skeptical of the premier league being able to get through their season given the UK's COVID response has been poor but they managed to do it without any speedbumps. I'm impressed.

As Nats closer Sean Doolittle said, “Sports are the reward for a functioning society”.

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Godzilla Blitz wrote:

^Yeah, he has myocarditis, common in about 10-20% of covid patients.

Some women's US rowers got it, and they talk about how hard it's been to get back to competitive condition:

“As of today, over 3 months after my symptoms went away, I am working on getting back into the shape I was in in early February and March before all of the setbacks. While it only took me a month to feel like I was in my own body again,” Regan wrote, using an eyeroll emoji, “I have teammates who were dealing with complications from COVID for over 2 months.

Nasty stuff. Stay away.

I also see that four Marlins tested positive for Covid while in Philadelphia. Gosh, what a surprise, athletes from Miami testing positive for Covid!

Got a source on the 1 to 2 in 10 get an incredibly serious heart condition from exposure? That is a very dangerous number for everyone, and for pro athletes specifically.

The Vikings say VP of Sports Medicine/head athletic trainer Eric Sugarman, @EricSugarATC, the team’s Infection Control Officer in the battle against COVID-19, has tested positive for the virus.

Somebody retweeted Peter King, who tweeted the above. So, the guy in charge of keeping the team safe, has COVID.

One of the really fun factors for me here is the Vikings HQ/training facility? They built a new one a couple years ago. It's about five miles from my house, right in my suburb, so, hey, love having this giant-ass infection vector right up the road from me.

MilkmanDanimal wrote:
The Vikings say VP of Sports Medicine/head athletic trainer Eric Sugarman, @EricSugarATC, the team’s Infection Control Officer in the battle against COVID-19, has tested positive for the virus.

Somebody retweeted Peter King, who tweeted the above. So, the guy in charge of keeping the team safe, has COVID.

One of the really fun factors for me here is the Vikings HQ/training facility? They built a new one a couple years ago. It's about five miles from my house, right in my suburb, so, hey, love having this giant-ass infection vector right up the road from me.

HEY!

Vector wrote:
MilkmanDanimal wrote:
The Vikings say VP of Sports Medicine/head athletic trainer Eric Sugarman, @EricSugarATC, the team’s Infection Control Officer in the battle against COVID-19, has tested positive for the virus.

Somebody retweeted Peter King, who tweeted the above. So, the guy in charge of keeping the team safe, has COVID.

One of the really fun factors for me here is the Vikings HQ/training facility? They built a new one a couple years ago. It's about five miles from my house, right in my suburb, so, hey, love having this giant-ass infection vector right up the road from me.

HEY!

I'm just sayin', Vector's got back.

MilkmanDanimal wrote:

Somebody retweeted Peter King, who tweeted the above. So, the guy in charge of keeping the team safe, has COVID.

So he did his job, he took the bullet.

GET DOWN, MR. COUSINS

Top_Shelf wrote:
Godzilla Blitz wrote:

^Yeah, he has myocarditis, common in about 10-20% of covid patients.

Some women's US rowers got it, and they talk about how hard it's been to get back to competitive condition:

“As of today, over 3 months after my symptoms went away, I am working on getting back into the shape I was in in early February and March before all of the setbacks. While it only took me a month to feel like I was in my own body again,” Regan wrote, using an eyeroll emoji, “I have teammates who were dealing with complications from COVID for over 2 months.

Nasty stuff. Stay away.

I also see that four Marlins tested positive for Covid while in Philadelphia. Gosh, what a surprise, athletes from Miami testing positive for Covid!

Got a source on the 1 to 2 in 10 get an incredibly serious heart condition from exposure? That is a very dangerous number for everyone, and for pro athletes specifically.

Needs more work to back it up more, but I read it here, where it's a quote from Rodriguez himself in the article.

Regardless of this specific case, however, there is this German research that shows heart damage in covid patients:

"More than two months later, infected patients were more likely to have troubling cardiac signs than people in the control group: 78 (out of 100) patients showed structural changes to their hearts, 76 had evidence of a biomarker signaling cardiac injury typically found after a heart attack, and 60 had signs of inflammation."

"Taken together, the two studies, published Monday in JAMA Cardiology, suggest that in many patients, Covid-19 could presage heart failure, a chronic, progressive condition in which the heart’s ability to pump blood throughout the body declines. It is too soon to say if the damage in patients recovering from Covid-19 is transient or permanent, but cardiologists are worried.

Roke wrote:
I hope MLB figures this out, but this Marlins story has a very "officials are huddling on the court right before scheduled tipoff of this Jazz/Thunder game" vibe to it.

https://twitter.com/DownGoesBrown/st...

I was very skeptical of the premier league being able to get through their season given the UK's COVID response has been poor but they managed to do it without any speedbumps. I'm impressed.

There is poor, then there is ... the US. We are in a category all to ourselves...

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EDIT: Just realized that's not a fair comparison because it's not relative to population size. This one is:

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Godzilla Blitz wrote:
Top_Shelf wrote:
Godzilla Blitz wrote:

^Yeah, he has myocarditis, common in about 10-20% of covid patients.

Some women's US rowers got it, and they talk about how hard it's been to get back to competitive condition:

“As of today, over 3 months after my symptoms went away, I am working on getting back into the shape I was in in early February and March before all of the setbacks. While it only took me a month to feel like I was in my own body again,” Regan wrote, using an eyeroll emoji, “I have teammates who were dealing with complications from COVID for over 2 months.

Nasty stuff. Stay away.

I also see that four Marlins tested positive for Covid while in Philadelphia. Gosh, what a surprise, athletes from Miami testing positive for Covid!

Got a source on the 1 to 2 in 10 get an incredibly serious heart condition from exposure? That is a very dangerous number for everyone, and for pro athletes specifically.

Needs more work to back it up more, but I read it here, where it's a quote from Rodriguez himself in the article.

Regardless of this specific case, however, there is this German research that shows heart damage in covid patients:

"More than two months later, infected patients were more likely to have troubling cardiac signs than people in the control group: 78 (out of 100) patients showed structural changes to their hearts, 76 had evidence of a biomarker signaling cardiac injury typically found after a heart attack, and 60 had signs of inflammation."

"Taken together, the two studies, published Monday in JAMA Cardiology, suggest that in many patients, Covid-19 could presage heart failure, a chronic, progressive condition in which the heart’s ability to pump blood throughout the body declines. It is too soon to say if the damage in patients recovering from Covid-19 is transient or permanent, but cardiologists are worried.

article wrote:

Patients come to my office saying, ‘Hey, I’m a 31-year-old who used to run and be completely unlimited in my exercise, and now I get palpitations walking across the street. Or I get out of breath climbing up to my second-floor apartment,’” he said. “Individuals are exquisitely tuned in to their own capacity for exercise, so I take that very seriously. Our challenge is to understand the why.”

Marc Pfeffer, a cardiologist at Brigham and Women’s Hospital in Boston, called both the autopsy and MRI studies a sobering warning. He was not involved in either. He’s concerned about relatively young people losing their cardiac health reserves, which typically decrease with age and can set the stage for heart failure.

Fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck.

Good 2nd graph, Godzilla. I remember the UK was getting a lot of criticism because Boris was just as dumb as Trump.

Hm, what could have happened in April... oh yeah, Boris got coronavirus. Suddenly the UK got their sh*t together.

Should have just had someone give it to Trump back in March and we'd be home free. He'd either be dead or doing something about it. And we'd be better off either way.

The list of NFL players opting out is growing and growing. No superstars yet, but the dominoes are starting to drop.

Pretty good characterization of MLB's "plan": https://twitter.com/kaitlyncmcgrath/...

Just unpack that last RT from Ken. A team that may have been exposed to COVID-19 by another team that has lost half its roster to COVID-19 will isolate, then play another team who was barred from playing in its own country because the gov't was concerned about MLB’s plan to play
https://twitter.com/Ken_Rosenthal/st...
Phillies under this plan would return to play Friday against the Blue Jays at Citizens Bank Park - as the visiting team (under a previous plan due to Jays’ inability to play in Canada). Team would be isolated until then, not technically quarantined.

What a mess

Who could have known!?

^Yeah. Marlins up to 15 players and 2 staff now.

Random thoughts...

On a positive note, NBA and MLS latest testing rounds have shown zero positive cases. So, so far Bubble > Stupid Plan. Although the MLS will be shifting to Stupid Plan mode after their tournament, so there you go.

I'm curious to learn how the Marlins outbreak originated. Speculation was the flight from Atlanta on Wednesday. That's a non-answer. Did the plane have Covid?

Miami-Dade County has been above 30% positive results on recent rounds of covid testing, which is mind-blowingly high. So yeah, good luck Marlins.

I suppose we'll know in a week or so whether this is a one-off wake up call or a harbinger of total MLB collapse.

At least two managers saying they shared hotels with regular folks including a wedding party.

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f*cking wedding parties?? Really.

firesloth wrote:

f*cking wedding parties?? Really.

No joke.

#1 - Why didn't the MLB book their own hotels?

#2 - Why are people having big weddings?

DSGamer wrote:
firesloth wrote:

f*cking wedding parties?? Really.

No joke.

#1 - Why didn't the MLB book their own hotels?

#2 - Why are people having big weddings?

#1: They're morons.

#2: They're morons.

When I said no sports would be layer, I assumed a very low level of intelligence needed to realize it was stupid.

Just waiting for the first 20-something Star to get a career ending flu at this point.

If sports would shut down, we might start to get our attention on actually addressing the pandemic. Heard Robert Costa say the other night that in talking to White House aides, sports is the big deal. As long as these sports go, it gives Trump the power to push forward. Without them, they will have to start shutting things down.

The NBA led the way last time. Who will this time?

Jayhawker wrote:

If sports would shut down, we might start to get our attention on actually addressing the pandemic. Heard Robert Costa say the other night that in talking to White House aides, sports is the big deal. As long as these sports go, it gives Trump the power to push forward. Without them, they will have to start shutting things down.

I was originally thinking that sports would help, because it would give people something to do while they are socializing less, but instead for many people it's more what you've posted here. It's supporting the illusion that all is normal.

I can also say that it's been a bit frustrating to read about baseball teams getting test results turned around overnight when my wife just had to wait 5 days to get hers.

Godzilla Blitz wrote:
Jayhawker wrote:

If sports would shut down, we might start to get our attention on actually addressing the pandemic. Heard Robert Costa say the other night that in talking to White House aides, sports is the big deal. As long as these sports go, it gives Trump the power to push forward. Without them, they will have to start shutting things down.

I was originally thinking that sports would help, because it would give people something to do while they are socializing less, but instead for many people it's more what you've posted here. It's supporting the illusion that all is normal.

I can also say that it's been a bit frustrating to read about baseball teams getting test results turned around overnight when my wife just had to wait 5 days to get hers.

This has been my #1 beef with getting sports going again. I don't think we should have sports as long as we don't have excess testing capacity. Even if every league was run perfectly they're taking tests away from the general populace.

It's only the icing on the cake that MLB and the NFL seem to be setup to actually spread the plague.

Godzilla Blitz wrote:

^Yeah. Marlins up to 15 players and 2 staff now.

Random thoughts...

On a positive note, NBA and MLS latest testing rounds have shown zero positive cases. So, so far Bubble > Stupid Plan. Although the MLS will be shifting to Stupid Plan mode after their tournament, so there you go.

I'm curious to learn how the Marlins outbreak originated. Speculation was the flight from Atlanta on Wednesday. That's a non-answer. Did the plane have Covid?

Miami-Dade County has been above 30% positive results on recent rounds of covid testing, which is mind-blowingly high. So yeah, good luck Marlins.

I suppose we'll know in a week or so whether this is a one-off wake up call or a harbinger of total MLB collapse.

I believe it was Bob Nightengale said during a radio interview he’s had sources tell him some of the players went out for a night on the town in Atlanta.

Godzilla Blitz wrote:
Jayhawker wrote:

If sports would shut down, we might start to get our attention on actually addressing the pandemic. Heard Robert Costa say the other night that in talking to White House aides, sports is the big deal. As long as these sports go, it gives Trump the power to push forward. Without them, they will have to start shutting things down.

I was originally thinking that sports would help, because it would give people something to do while they are socializing less, but instead for many people it's more what you've posted here. It's supporting the illusion that all is normal.

I can also say that it's been a bit frustrating to read about baseball teams getting test results turned around overnight when my wife just had to wait 5 days to get hers.

It's what our society does best. First you get the money. Then you get the power. Then you set the rules to benefit yourself. f*ck the little people.