NFL 2020: Draft

*Legion* wrote:
Stele wrote:
*Legion* wrote:

The Niners were clearly well coached

Except for when they had big leads in playoff games...

Tell the Packers that.

Shanny will figure out the Super Bowl. I remember a guy named Andy Reid who used to get the same criticism for losing the big game.

I see your Kool Aid Man and raise you Schotty, Reeves and Levy.

And I'm all in on no NFL in 2020. I just don't think it's happening.

Top_Shelf wrote:

I see your Kool Aid Man and raise you Schotty, Reeves and Levy.

Schottenheimer football is like the antithesis of Shanahan football. Baby Schotty is my favorite Seahawk.

"Dan Reeves" is what John Elway named his rucksack.

As for Levy, well, when he started going to Super Bowls, he was *Mike* Shanahan's age. Kyle has an awful lot of the runway that Levy ran out of.

*Legion* wrote:
Top_Shelf wrote:

I see your Kool Aid Man and raise you Schotty, Reeves and Levy.

Schottenheimer football is like the antithesis of Shanahan football. Baby Schotty is my favorite Seahawk.

"Dan Reeves" is what John Elway named his rucksack.

As for Levy, well, when he started going to Super Bowls, he was *Mike* Shanahan's age. Kyle has an awful lot of the runway that Levy ran out of.

Hahaha.

In fairness, I do think Shanny will get one sooner rather than later.

But screw fairness! This is the GWJ NFL Thread!

He's already lost twice before turning 40, he's losing another season this year (see below), and then his current team will be facing the challenge every quick-build team gets: pay-or-go with high performing vets! He's going to end up like McVay, a boy wonder who runs into the realities of modern NFL pay structures. He's not Belicheck Jr. Even Belichick had to: cheat, get Brady, and learn lessons from failure in CLE and Belichick was already a major player in winning the 86 and 91 Super Bowls, not a born choker like Kyle!

Friendly wager: Who will win their first ring - Baby Schotty or Kyle? WHO YA GOT?

ETA: whoops, forgot to link Fauci's thoughts on fall sports.

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/...

Dr Anthony Fauci wrote:

Unless players are essentially in a bubble -- insulated from the community and they are tested nearly every day -- it would be very hard to see how football is able to be played this fall. If there is a second wave, which is certainly a possibility and which would be complicated by the predictable flu season, football may not happen this year.

We are essentially, as a nation, somewhere in the early March timeframe. That means that in 3 months (mid-Sept), we're going to be in at least a similar situation to where we are today (provided more lockdowns come and we don't just crater the entire economy/health system). And today, there are STILL no major sports playing.

Has the NFL even begun talking to labor about what the fall will look like (I recall John Harbaugh saying the current plans were unreasonable but what does the PA think)? Have they secured tests? A site/bubble? Do they think they're going to be flying players all around the country privately each week for games?

Chatter that the Browns are thinking of signing Cam Newton, because that is stupid enough to work!?

Yeah, training camps live in 8 weeks?

Keep dreaming.

UpToIsomorphism wrote:

Chatter that the Browns are thinking of signing Cam Newton, because that is stupid enough to work!?

I think any team that's not set at QB2 should be looking at Cam.

The Browns signed Case Keenum to a 3-year deal though, so I don't see a burning need to invest more to fill the QB2 spot.

That said, if this were a normal offseason where training camp and preseasons were gonna happen as normal, I'd be up for a competitive QB room with Mayfield, Keenum, and Cam, and flip one of the bottom two in trade once some other team with less foresight loses a QB to injury.

It'll just be Zoom meeting screen captures, yet still more compelling than the neutered version from the Raiders last year.

A whole bunch of University of Texas football players tested positive after 4 days of camp. No way are we seeing any football until there is a vaccine.

Clemson has 23 players positive, and three more staff.

All sports are doing for us right now is giving us an early warning into the clusterf*ck the school year is going to be at every single level. It's going to be a clusterf*ck for the same reason every sports league is a clusterf*ck.

Both of these require the number of daily new infections to be low. When they are running in the hundreds every day in so many states, one student or athlete getting infected will set off a chain reaction. This sets off another chain reaction of everyone going home, all over the country, two weeks after the virus has been passed around in a perfect place to spread. Pretending that we could move forward otherwise was ridiculous.

I bet within the next week the sports conversation changes from “prevent people getting infected through bubbles and testing and whatever” to “when people test positive we will pull them out but these guys are athletes in great health and even if they get it it won’t affect them much”. They will move the goalposts however they need to to justify coming back, assuming most of the players are willing to play.

Nah... The players are going to realize this is dumb as sh*t and not play. And fans will crap on them for it.

It’s already happening.

LeapingGnome wrote:

I bet within the next week the sports conversation changes from “prevent people getting infected through bubbles and testing and whatever” to “when people test positive we will pull them out but these guys are athletes in great health and even if they get it it won’t affect them much”. They will move the goalposts however they need to to justify coming back, assuming most of the players are willing to play.

I'm firmly in your camp. They'll continue to make concessions to whoever they need to, just like they do with "player safety".

Jayhawker wrote:

Nah... The players are going to realize this is dumb as sh*t and not play. And fans will crap on them for it.

It’s already happening.

Let's be honest, fans are gonna crap on them no matter what they choose. Choose one way, one set of fans cry. Choose another, other fans cry.

Can we all agree that college football fans are the worst, though? It’s already a very morally compromised sport that needs a lot of reforms (paying players, better safety protocols) to be remotely ethical.

Meanwhile I logon to the Internet daily and see someone complaining about the possibility that college football may not be back this year.

To me it seems obvious that there’s no way college football should be played in 2020. I don’t understand how it’s even a question.

DSGamer wrote:

Can we all agree that college football fans are the worst, though?

Yes.

Sorry, didn't read the rest of your post before replying. I'm sure your case was well stated though.

Started a thread for Sports Pandemic talk.

We have discussions that encompass this in several threads, but this isn’t so much to end those, as each sport has its own set of challenges. But often, the topic becomes general, and we begin mixing sports in ways that aren’t useful. At the very least, for those of us that look at threads for multiple sports, it can sometimes make it hard to not go off topic, and an off topic that is already destined for Cleveland.

Posted this in the other thread; players from 10 teams test positive. And this is at the very start of what are largely pretend workouts.

Great write-up from Aaron Schatz on the teams/players of the decade according to DVOA/DYAR:

https://www.espn.com/nfl/insider/sto...

Spoiler:

A Tyler Lockett sighting!

Rat Boy wrote:

Cam looks like the forgotten Williams sister.

Rat Boy wrote:

As if I didn't want to f**k Jimmy badly enough already.

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Why I no longer watch football in 1 image

Jack Del Rio is out there being a piece of crap apparently.

Someone made a tweet claiming "AOC hates America" which contained an image of a completely fabricated AOC tweet, and Del Rio retweeted that tweet, saying "Wow ?!! Proof .... c'mon AOC"

Then he one-upped himself by retweeting a tweet that claimed NASCAR driver Bubba Wallace faked the noose.

Dang, was looking forward to what a competent D-coordinator could do with that Defense. He's even doubling down on it and not deleting / apologizing. Shameful. Hopefully he's lost the locker room now and will get himself fired sooner rather than later.

OK, Boomer.

HoF game is canceled. Induction moved to 2021.

UpToIsomorphism wrote:

HoF game is canceled. Induction moved to 2021.

But we're going to have a season, amirite, Jerruh?

In more positive news, here are slate coasters you can buy of your favorite team's greatest plays.

Here's one for Legion:
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The Catch
Montana's drive in SB XXIII
Rice breaking the TD record (huh?)
Catch 2.0 feat. TO

I have to admit that selection of four plays is better than the Seahawks' four:
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Beastquake
Percy Harvin's KOTD in SB SLVIII
A first quarter Shaun Alexander TD run against the Panthers in the 2005 NFC Championship Game (huh?)
The winning TD against MIA in the '83 Divisional Round to send them to their first (and only) AFC Championship Game

I don't know why these aren't included:
The Tip
Russell Wilson to Jermaine Kearse in OT of 2014 NFC Championship Game

The famous Largent hit on Harden in '88 is one of my all-time favorite moments but it wasn't even an actual play since a flag negated the INT. And besides, you can't really show it unless you have Harden marked with a skull/crossbones at the end.

Top_Shelf wrote:

Here's one for Legion, and Stele, and Rat Boy

The Catch
Montana's drive in SB XXIII
Rice breaking the TD record (huh?)
Catch 2.0 feat. TO

I have to admit that selection of four plays is better than the Seahawks' four

Fixed. And duh.