[News] Protests Against Police Violence After Death of George Floyd

Discuss police violence, the victims of police violence (including George Floyd and Breonna Taylor), the Black-led protests against said violence, and related topics.

Chattanooga police arrested man atop building with loaded AK-47 during George Floyd demonstrations

Chattanooga Times Free Press wrote:

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Officers received a call around 9 p.m. Wednesday about a man, later identified as Kevin Leko, standing atop the building in the 1400 block of Market Street with what appeared to be an assault rifle, according to Hamilton County court documents.

When police arrived, they found Leko with a bag and a rifle sticking out and ordered him to get on the ground, and he immediately complied and was taken into custody, court records state.

Officers found an AK-47 rifle, two 9mm handguns and a revolver, all of which were loaded, according to court records. They also found a broken down PA-224 with loaded magazines and various loaded magazines for each weapon with the exception of the revolver.

Leko also had six beers in his bag and appeared to already be very intoxicated, based on his speech, movement and the smell of beer on his breath, an officer wrote in the criminal affidavit, adding that the man told police he "had been feeling very anxious lately because of the protests in town that had gone by his apartment building."

"His anxiety was also up from watching the riots across the country," officers wrote in the affidavit. "He said that he got home and had some beers and was watching the news of the riots again, making him increasingly anxious and in fear."

So he went to the roof with the intent to defend himself "in the event the protest turned violent and people came [to] burn his building or kill him," court records state.

Neighbors told police they were very concerned but didn't hear him make any threats to anyone or point the firearms at anyone.

Leko was taken to the police station where he was interviewed by agents with the FBI and the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives before being taken to the Hamilton County Jail. He was charged with possession of a firearm while under the influence. His bond was set at $3,000.

Given his photo I have some guesses as to what news channel was making him anxious and scared.

If there are non psychopaths, hearts hardened by years of fascist indoctrination, could these people be salvageable? Is it possible to extend our compassion to them such they feel that exiting their profession is not a kind of suicide, but a new life?

If that's possible, wouldn't that also be a strategic win?

I don't consider my own ability to read people to be strong enough to know the answers. This is not meant to be a distraction from the goal of dissolution and reformation of the police forces, but maybe a stepping stone? Assuming I'm not being too naive.

Jonman wrote:
BadKen wrote:
The former President leading a march against the current White House would be seen as a coup, domestically and internationally. That could escalate very, very quickly. As it is, Obama making national addresses on television is being interpreted as a sign of instability.

Agreed, Obama heading up a protest march on DC would be a very bad look.

Your bolded line is going to look mighty prophetic should Trump not win a second term, cos you know he's going to try and pull something like that.

To be fair, Clock is the prophet.

I know I should have some more to say on this but all I have is.
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I hear Blackwater's hiring.

Yeah, I'm not going to say anything about cops in general, but I'm pretty comfortable saying that those fifty-seven in particular should not be in a position of public power.

EDIT: The response from the Buffalo Police Benevolent Association President is literally "they were simply following orders"

Gremlin wrote:

"they were simply following orders"

Can we all, as a species, just finally agree that absolutely nobody does/should find that response to be in any way whatsoever compelling and/or exculpatory?

Please?

whitehouse.gov wrote:

There were 15.3 million people on temporary layoff in May, in addition to an estimated 4.9 million people who had temporarily lost their jobs but were counted as employed but "not at work for other reasons." Including all those ho were potentially on temporary layoff...

So we can safely say those unemployment numbers are the lying sack of sh*t that we know Trump to be.

I accept your resignations and will now make sure that you're not getting paid. You all clearly don't understand right from wrong and are therefore unfit for duty and serving the public. Get the F out and never come back.

Chokeholds were banned when Eric Garner got murdered.

r013nt0 wrote:
Gremlin wrote:

"they were simply following orders"

Can we all, as a species, just finally agree that absolutely nobody does/should find that response to be in any way whatsoever compelling and/or exculpatory?

Please?

I'm pretty sure that's the one time that Godwin's Law is immediately ok.

boogle wrote:

Chokeholds were banned when Eric Garner got murdered.

Nationally?

Use of force guidelines are locally specified and are one of the major causes of variation in police violence and lethal encounter rate.

peanut3141 wrote:
boogle wrote:

Chokeholds were banned when Eric Garner got murdered.

Nationally?

Use of force guidelines are locally specified and are one of the major causes of variation in police violence and lethal encounter rate.

Locally banned in NYC, where Garner was murdered by a cop

The entire ERT quit in response to the two cops being suspended for pushing the 75 year old. The team had 57 officers.
No good apples in this barrel

r013nt0 wrote:
Gremlin wrote:

"they were simply following orders"

Can we all, as a species, just finally agree that absolutely nobody does/should find that response to be in any way whatsoever compelling and/or exculpatory?

Completely agree. I won't say it's never been a legitimate excuse for anything, but I sure as hell can't think of a time when it has been a sufficient defense to absolve one of guilt for... well, anything.

Sounds like Buffalo needs to take the nuclear option on their PD just like the Minneapolis city council.

Yep! Time to rethink a lot of things about our society, I'd say.

This is a good protest.

In neighboring Salem OR a cop was caught on video asking a group of Proud Boys to go hide in buildings or vehicles because the cops were about to start gassing and arresting protestors and don’t want to be seen “playing favorites.”

WP: Teens have been gassed and hit with rubber bullets at protests. They keep coming back.

Aly Conyers was supposed to spend the summer competing at track and field meets.

Instead, the 17-year-old all-American sprinter stood in front of a crowd of hundreds near Howard University earlier this week. Her older brother, Ace, had planned on leading the Sunday afternoon protest, but he had lost his voice from shouting in front of the White House. So Aly, who attends a private high school in South Carolina, stepped onto a brick platform, grabbed the megaphone, and started speaking.

“We are the face of this movement,” she shouted to the crowd. “We are the face of this generation. We will not let this stand. Enough is enough.”

Hours later, Aly coughed and wheezed in a cloud of chemical gas near the White House. On Monday, she ran as federal law enforcement officers fired rubber bullets to clear demonstrators from Lafayette Square. On Thursday, she returned to the protests yet again, leading a crowd of more than a thousand people at the Martin Luther King Jr. Memorial in a moment of silence.

Across the country, thousands of teenagers like Aly are on the front lines of the protests demanding justice for George Floyd and other victims of police brutality.

HuffPost: Public Opinion Is On The Side Of The Protests. That’s New.
But views about policing remain divided along partisan and racial lines, a new HuffPost/YouGov survey finds.

Americans support the protests sparked by the death of George Floyd by a nearly 2-to-1 margin, a new HuffPost/YouGov poll finds, with most viewing Floyd’s death as part of a pattern in police treatment of Black men ― a finding that reflects a shift in public opinion about the pervasiveness of racial discrimination in policing.

The public’s view of the police, however, remains broadly positive, though marked by sharp racial and political divides.

The Atlantic Op-Ed: Bad Apples in Buffalo: Fifty-seven officers were willing to take a stand to defend misconduct rather than oppose it.

After an elderly protester in Buffalo, New York, was pushed to the ground by police officers and left to lie there as blood pooled beneath his head, the head of the local police union, John Evans, said his colleagues were disgusted.

Disgusted, that is, that two of the officers seen in the video were suspended without pay.

“Fifty-seven resigned in disgust because of the treatment of two of their members, who were simply executing orders,” Evans told the Buffalo NBC affiliate WGRZ, offering a classic Nuremberg defense. The officers remain employed; they have simply resigned from the riot team that was deployed to clear the city’s Niagara Square of residents protesting police abuse.

The Buffalo Emergency Response Team was formed in the aftermath of the protests in Ferguson, Missouri, in 2014. For many Americans, the heavy-handed police response and the riots and unrest that followed raised questions about the wisdom of outfitting police departments with military equipment. But police leadership in Buffalo took the protests as a sign that they needed a specialized team to deal with “mass demonstrations.”

“There’s a very fine line between policing and honoring people’s civil rights,” the team’s commander told WIVB at the time. “I just want compliance, that’s the name of the game.” Everything about this incident feels like it was authored by a hack fiction writer pushing a metaphor too far, but yes: A riot squad created to subdue Black Lives Matter protesters is now most famous for pushing an unarmed, elderly white man to the ground.

Some of the recent protests across the United States have been marred by looting, rioting, and violence, but the video from Buffalo was just the latest example of police officers responding to anti-police-brutality protests with violence against individuals who pose no apparent threat. Since the nationwide demonstrations began, videos showing police beating unarmed protesters, driving police cars into crowds, firing at journalists, and teargassing peaceful protesters with no provocation have spread across social media. Elected officials and police spokespeople have insisted that the catalyzing event for the protests, the release of a nine-minute video showing the Minneapolis police officer Derek Chauvin digging his knee into the back of George Floyd’s neck, was an isolated incident. But the response of many police departments across the country vindicates the protesters’ complaints: In many cases, protesters against excessive force have themselves become the targets of excessive force.

Only thing I'll add is that the man the police shoved to the ground in Buffalo is alive. No thanks to the cops who walked around his body with indifference, but at least they didn't keep beating him to finish the job. One wonders if they would have if they thought he was more of a threat because of the color of his skin.

He's alive for now.

My mom died 2 years after a fall like this. Not caused by a police brutality, just slipping on ice. When her skull fractured it punctured her dura. She suffered from side effects from that or years and kept falling as a result.

She was never right again and eventually she fell in a way that caused an internal injury, an infection and 3 days after that last fall she was dead at 62.

He may recover, but it could also go really badly for him. Either way the cop that shoved him should be brought up on charges.

Good point. And also reminds me that Austin PD critically injured two people in two separate incidents last weekend--20-year-old Justin Howell and 16-year-old Brad Ayala, who are alive for the moment but most likely have brain damage. In Justin Howell's case the police told the people caring for him after he got shot to bring him closer for treatment--and then fired on the people they told to come closer.

Star Tribune: Florida attorney seeking probe of Derek Chauvin's voting record: The fired Minneapolis officer charged with murder in George Floyd's death voted in Florida, where he also has property, in 2016 and 2018.

A Florida attorney wrote a letter Friday to a state prosecutor alleging that the former Minneapolis police officer charged with murdering George Floyd while in police custody had voted illegally in Florida in 2016 and 2018.

Derek Michael Chauvin, 44, is listed as having property in both Oakdale, Minn., and Windermere, Fla. On Friday, Dan Helm, a Florida attorney and candidate for Pinellas County Supervisor of Elections, asked Orange County State Attorney Aramis Ayala to prosecute Chauvin for violating the state’s election laws when he voted in Florida elections. Helm said the violation is a third-degree felony.

Yeah but Trump and his new mouthpiece did the same. When do they get charged with felonies?

Stele wrote:

Yeah but Trump and his new mouthpiece did the same. When do they get charged with felonies?

12:01PM, January 20, 2021.

OG_slinger wrote:
Stele wrote:

Yeah but Trump and his new mouthpiece did the same. When do they get charged with felonies?

12:01PM, January 20, 2021.

I doubt he’ll let that happen right at the start of his second term.