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I'm in the market for a new mouse. My current one is a Logitech G502, I've had it nearly four years and I have loved it, but the left-click is starting to not work so well and it's not holding down like it used to. Like I'll be dragging something across the screen and it'll just let go randomly, sometimes re-clicking too. It's really annoying. The wheel doesn't roll as good as it used to either. Anyway I've used the mouse 8 hours a day almost every day for work all that time, plus gaming on top of that, so it doesn't owe me anything.

I need: free-rolling wheel, a lot of buttons, preferably wireless.

Is Logitech still the way to go? Another brand? What do people get these days in high-end mice?

I wrote out a few replies, but I can’t get past the fact that if you change your mouse, you could end up with wrist or forearm pain. I’ve had that happen several times. So my considered advice is, get another one of the same model. That mouse has lasted longer than most of mine have, under heavy use. It’s a proven quantity.

Buy two if you are concerned about it being discontinued or changed in a way you don’t like as an “upgrade”.

d4m0 wrote:

I'm in the market for a new mouse. My current one is a Logitech G502, I've had it nearly four years and I have loved it, but the left-click is starting to not work so well and it's not holding down like it used to. Like I'll be dragging something across the screen and it'll just let go randomly, sometimes re-clicking too. It's really annoying. The wheel doesn't roll as good as it used to either. Anyway I've used the mouse 8 hours a day almost every day for work all that time, plus gaming on top of that, so it doesn't owe me anything.

I need: free-rolling wheel, a lot of buttons, preferably wireless.

Is Logitech still the way to go? Another brand? What do people get these days in high-end mice?

Logitech's Lightspeed tech is pretty neat. Might look at the G903 or G604.

Thanks for the suggestions! I hadn't even thought about the possibility of wrist strain from changing my mouse. That's interesting. But then I don't get the excitement of getting something new and different!

The way to go might be that G604 suggested by Rykin, which actually appears to be a newer update and wireless version of this mouse I'm trying to replace. The shape is very similar too, so it could reduce the possibility of wrist strain.

Yep. Sounds like a good plan. I just wanted to put an alternative out there. Sometimes good enough is good enough.

d4m0 wrote:

The way to go might be that G604 suggested by Rykin, which actually appears to be a newer update and wireless version of this mouse I'm trying to replace. The shape is very similar too, so it could reduce the possibility of wrist strain.

The G604 is the newer update to the G602.

The newer update to the G502 is... the G502 Wireless.

Yeah, I'd say stick with Logitech. I went from a RAT5 for probably 10 years or so to a G502 when it died, but it caused some issues and I just couldn't really get used to it. I use a G600 for work (MMO mouse) which I like the feel of and I set most of the keys to macros of my most common linux commands, but I can't game with it. I eventually moved on to a Steelseries Rival 500 which I've gotten comfortable with, but I miss the customization utility that Logitech uses.

I'll add my voice to the "stay with what you know" suggestions. The G502 comes in two models now, the G502 Hero (wired) and G502 Lightspeed (wireless), identical apart from the wire. I use a Lightspeed, it's a really good mouse both for gaming and work, and I'm in no hurry to replace it.

Used one of those super-fancy Razor mouse for a while, but the response on it was horrible and only continued to get worse, so went back to a much simpler Logitech and couldn't be happier! I've never had issues with their mice.

I ended up going with that G604, which has the Lightspeed and lots of buttons. It might as well be a new G502 since the shape is so similar. I'm loving it so far! I've got all the buttons assigned to make things quick. One of the best things I ever figured out, and this was with the last mouse, was to set a couple buttons to go "next tab" and "previous tab." Works great for web browsers and things like Visual Studio where you might have a lot of files open all at the same time.

Amazon had a good maybe two week wait on delivery, as did Logitech if I had purchased it right from them. Somehow though Best Buy had them, and I ended up going for next day delivery since it was only like $5 anyway. Barely two hours after ordering it on the website I see this Geek Squad van pull up outside and I said to my wife, that's gotta be a wrong address or something. Nope, it was the person delivering the mouse. Same day delivery is magic.

Huzzah for small victories!

As a counterpoint, there's no reason for the Logitech mice to be wearing out the way they are. Left-click dying appears to be planned obsolescence on their part to sell more mice, because there are a lot of mice that are doing that, where prior generations could easily last ten years or more.

Malor wrote:

As a counterpoint, there's no reason for the Logitech mice to be wearing out the way they are. Left-click dying appears to be planned obsolescence on their part to sell more mice, because there are a lot of mice that are doing that, where prior generations of their mice could easily last ten years or more.

Heck yeah, their button quality has gone downhill within the past few years. In my household we're up to 4 Logitechs with left click problems. I repaired the switch on one temporarily by taking it apart and bending the spring metal back into shape. After it stopped working again a couple months later, I took its right switch off completely and soldered it in as the left switch in another that died around the same time. After yet another started double-clicking on the left button, I was done fiddling with them and started replacing them with non-Logitechs (Redragon, Corsair, whatever is a good deal at the time).

I still use an Mx518 at work.

Evoluent here. Needs replacing every 3 years or so.

Y'all are making me want to buy three more G602s.

I picked up a Razer Death Adder Elite at Target a few months ago, when it was an on an unadvertised sale, for half price. I like the mouse, but I don't feel a lot of difference between it and my previous Logitech and CX Storm mice.

PaladinTom wrote:

Y'all are making me want to buy three more G602s.

If you're saying that because of questions about Logitech quality, I have a small army of dead G602s I could send you. The G602 is very much inside of the "Logitech declining longevity" window, not before it.

I still buy Logitech mice because pretty much no one else makes wireless mice that are even worth using in the first place.

My Logitech G500 is 7 years old and still going strong. I have a preference for wired mice, except when I'm traveling.

Yeah, I've had my G502 for about that long, and got a second one for use at the office 3 years ago. Both are going strong.

Yes Logitech is well known for using crap switches in certain models of their mice over the past decade. They get the double click or mis-click problem after a period of time. I also had a drawer full of bad Logitech mice, but as Legion said, they are still the best option even if I had to replace it every couple of years.

On some of their higher-end mice they use better switches. Like the M570 ($30) has the crap switches but the MX Ergo ($80) has good ones. They are well aware of the problem but they also know almost no one bothers with warranty claims.

We stocked up on their rollerball mice years ago, just because they are so nice and durable as well. Still have one, I think. (The thumb ball optical ones.)

Quintin_Stone wrote:

My Logitech G500 is 7 years old and still going strong. I have a preference for wired mice, except when I'm traveling.

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I bought two newer Logitech mice, and both failed very quickly, within a year, so I ended up going back to this old G400, which fortunately is the non-angle-snapping engine version. It's at least five years old and is showing no signs of trouble.

I won't be buying any more Logitech anything. They're deliberately taking advantage of their customer base, in effect monetizing them, when they don't have to do anything of the sort.

They know how to make quality products and are deliberately choosing not to, so I will deliberately choose to buy from someone else.

I had similar failures with Logitech mice. The longest lasting one I had was actually a 7+ year old laptop wireless mouse. I was bummed when it started dying because I really liked it for what it was.

Every Logitech gaming mouse I've used in between Razer mice has had the left-click failure within a year or so. I don't buy Logitech peripherals anymore.

Rezzy wrote:
Quintin_Stone wrote:

My Logitech G500 is 7 years old and still going strong. I have a preference for wired mice, except when I'm traveling.

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On a whim I tried to find my purchase date for this mouse.
I registered this G500 with Logitech July 28th, 2010.

I've jinxed it now, haven't I...

My currently in use with no problems G500 was ordered on April 1, 2010. Maybe I should go ebay a replacement...

Sorry, wrong thread... moved to 2020 catch all

hey all,

I was looking into upgrading my razer 2016 laptop as it's not compatible with the oculus quest because of it's nividia 970m graphics card.

I am probably looking for another laptop because i have to have a laptop otherwise and am trying to figure out what the best ones are currently. I fell in love with razer because of it's sleek design but fell out of love because both razer laptops I've had have had issues (battery and mouse pad breaking on it's own as well as heating issues).

looking for something that can do VR fairly well, doesn't scream "HAII I R GAMERR" when i take it out in public or at least something that i can easily put a skin over. Not really looking for top of the line, but something that can run VR on medium settings.

Also, how is the external video card concept doing? would completely prefer this if it's considered viable now.

Thanks!

I wish I knew whether it was viable or not because that seems the way to go to me.
Integrated graphics still isn't great and laptops with discreet gpus are expensive, hog power and typically a mobile version that is a fraction of the desktop version's power.