Saints negotiating a one-year deal with Jameis Winston.
Seems logical; he's got a long history of throwing passes to people in a Saints uniform.
Meanwhile, Cam is still unemployed. What strange times we live in.
MilkmanDanimal wrote:Saints negotiating a one-year deal with Jameis Winston.
Seems logical; he's got a long history of throwing passes to people in a Saints uniform.
Meanwhile, Cam is still unemployed. What strange times we live in.
Just did a pointless scan of Winston's stats on PFR; he should have gone to the Panthers. 15 INTs to Carolina, 10 to NO, 9 to Atlanta.
15 picks to Carolina. In only 9 games. JFC.
Enix wrote:MilkmanDanimal wrote:Saints negotiating a one-year deal with Jameis Winston.
Seems logical; he's got a long history of throwing passes to people in a Saints uniform.
Meanwhile, Cam is still unemployed. What strange times we live in.
Just did a pointless scan of Winston's stats on PFR; he should have gone to the Panthers. 15 INTs to Carolina, 10 to NO, 9 to Atlanta.
15 picks to Carolina. In only 9 games. JFC.
So what is the over/under on picks if he ever starts a game against Tampa?
MilkmanDanimal wrote:Enix wrote:MilkmanDanimal wrote:Saints negotiating a one-year deal with Jameis Winston.
Seems logical; he's got a long history of throwing passes to people in a Saints uniform.
Meanwhile, Cam is still unemployed. What strange times we live in.
Just did a pointless scan of Winston's stats on PFR; he should have gone to the Panthers. 15 INTs to Carolina, 10 to NO, 9 to Atlanta.
15 picks to Carolina. In only 9 games. JFC.
So what is the over/under on picks if he ever starts a game against Tampa?
One of his issues (and there are many) is he gets over-excited in big games and plays terribly in the first quarter. If he ever plays against the Bucs, he might get those 30 INTs before halftime.
Lol. So aggressive but accurate I guess.
I listened to one Packers podcast and they were recording live during the 6th round.
To hear them talk themselves into the first 3 picks and also slide into despair as they live recorded some of the 6th round was hysterical.
Some theories are that the Packers either think the current roster/talent is very close and they were investing in the future OR they actually know how much of a 9-7 team this might actually be and they are getting ready for the quick rebuild.
Time will tell. I can swallow the no WR pick. If the Packers are going to control the line and grind out drives sure. Play action with Rodgers can work with sub optimal WRs if they are actually just open for miles.
I'm still terrified how badly the team was sliced and diced by the 49ers on the ground and ILB play. This hasn't really been addressed in FA or the draft.
Mike Daniels is still a FA but not sure if he left on good terms.
Alright, some more draft thoughts:
...
Green Bay and Carolina, on the other hand, look like teams eyeing the 49ers squad that steamrolled over them in 3 lopsided blowouts. Carolina's doing it on the defensive side of the ball, spending their 1st and 2nd rounders on the defensive line. Pair them with last year's 1st Brian Burns, and the group's veteran Kawaan Short, and they've got 1st and 2nd round investments on all four starting spots on the defensive line (yes, four, as the team transitions back to 4-3 this year after a 3-4 base scheme last season). They built out their secondary depth with 4 picks in rounds 3-7. I wouldn't be surprised to see a large part of this year's draft class get real playing time in 2020.
I think that's exactly right. But that's a lot of rookies getting a lot of playing time - most of the secondary and the D-line. That's probably not a recipe for winning football, esp with Covid *and* a brand new coaching staff.
But then there's the O-line, which is a disaster. Carolina's current O-line includes a LT who missed most of last season due to blood clots, another LT who missed most of last season due to concussions and a LT tackle who was so unimpressive that the Panthers tried to play the guy with all the concussions (which is part of the reason he had so many). There's also the center who gave up more QB pressures than any center in the league. Right now, the Panthers have only one guy listed as a guard (whom the Panthers picked up from Cincy). There's another guy listed as "OL," I guess because special teams players don't really have traditional positions.
I understand that best available > need. But, man, Teddy Bridgewater is going to need some pass pro if he's going to make it to Week 5.
Anyway, great writeup. I take it you enjoyed this year's draft?
Seems like a fair assessment of the Packers draft.
As a fan if you are trying to chug the kool aid it falls apart when you go back to the fact the Packers traded up to get Love. It was one thing to go first round QB it's another when you give up a 4th also. Maybe they wanted Love that badly but if someone snags him first you still have options to grab a QB later or crazy concept wait until 2021.
Change the outcome to no trade. Same picks. Deguara going in the 4th instead and a WR in the 3rd? Not too shabby maybe. Deguara in the 3rd still and a 4th round WR ok.
Instead they made the trade which puts all other decisions in doubt imo.
Every team's most likely post draft cut via Bill Barnwell
Lots of WRs in there.
Agree with the assessment on Williams also. Although the Packers took so many interior linemen one might be getting the boot.
Still want them to add a DT and WR if possible or keep some powder ready for the trade deadline.
The four horsemen of a traffic stop!
That's why it's so hard to repeat at SB champs. Everything has to break your way and, well, the Breeland thing doesn't count as something that breaks your way.
Reports are coming out in D.C. that they could have traded Trent Williams last year at the trading deadline for a first. Bruce Allen, former pseudo GM is such a Fkn idiot. So glad that petty little baby is gone.
I am pretty sure I know at least one team that would’ve given their first for him.
Jeez. Bruce Allen should be sued for career malpractice. That deal was so bad it could have been written by Donald Trump.
-Bruce Allen
Bruce Allen was the Bucs' GM from 2004 to 2008; the only player in those drafts to hit a Career AV of 50 was Aqib Talib, who got it for other teams. His first-round picks were Talib, Gaines Adams, Davin Joseph, Cadillac Williams, and Michael Clayton. Sabby Piscitelli was picked in the 2nd round. His drafting was awful, he signed bad free agents, the team was terrible, and he essentially dismantled a team that had won the Super Bowl two years before he showed up, and drove the roster into the ground.
And he not only got another job, but he's been continuing to wreck that other team without consequences. He fails constantly, yet keeps getting jobs. He's the Blaine Gabbert of front offices.
UpToIsomorphism wrote:I am pretty sure I know at least one team that would’ve given their first for him.
Yeah Cleveland was definitely one of the teams with a 1st round offer on the table.
That's twice now that the Browns offered a 1st round pick in a trade, only for the player to get traded to San Francisco for cheaper. They offered a 1st for Garoppolo, but the Patriots took SF's 2nd instead.
At least this time, the declined offer was in the prior year, and Cleveland chose to pull themselves out of the trade market the second time around by filling their spot another way.
Still, two Cleveland 1sts losing out to San Francisco 2nd, 3rd, and 5th is just mindblowing. And with neither discount trade involving Bill O'Brien.
It truly goes to show how little regard for the Cleveland front office folks have. It's an earned reputation.
This might be the stupidest 2020 draft story I've seen: Sean Payton is flexing because he traded for a pick so he could grab a nothingburger QB that Carolina apparently wanted.
Taysom Hill already sucks so you dumped a 6th round pick to get Taysom Hill 2.0? No wonder the Saints have managed to get to only one Super Bowl during the Tiny Brees era. What a dolt.
This might be the stupidest 2020 draft story I've seen: Sean Payton is flexing because he traded for a pick so he could grab a nothingburger QB that Carolina apparently wanted.
Taysom Hill already sucks so you dumped a 6th round pick to get Taysom Hill 2.0? No wonder the Saints have managed to get to only one Super Bowl during the Tiny Brees era. What a dolt.
Wow. That is a dick move.
So, the Pats are going to pick up Dalton and Belichick is going to win a Super Bowl with him just to spite Brady, right?
Pages