NFL 2020: Draft

Ugh it's an ESPN/NFLN combined broadcast.

I have to listen to Kiper?

Booooo.

I switched to YouTube TV; no NFL Network. They appear to be partnering with the NFL Network with Jeremiah on and I dig Trey Wingo at least, but I'll miss Rich Eisen.

No Todd McShay this year, because he's got COVID. That's a rather ominous start to the draft.

staygold wrote:
*Legion* wrote:

He's definitely a beast that can disrupt inside, but for a top 10 pick, I need a guy that can make things happen on 3rd down, guys like Buckner, Cox, etc. (Also Donald, of course, but you can't expect anyone else to be that). Not sure Brown is that guy. Not certain enough for a top 10 pick. Which means you can pencil him right in for pick #9 tonight.

NFL Draft night. Where General Manager's fall in love with transcendent large men in the middle of the Defensive Line. I think DL is going the way of running back. They're replaceable parts, plug a fourth rounder in and he'll give you 80-90% of the top-10 guy, cost you 150% less, AND you can use your first round pick on someone useful.

I mean just look at the first round DT's from 2016 and earlier, count their Superbowls:
2016 | #12 | Sheldon Rankins NO
2016 | #27 | Kenny Clark GB
2016 | #29 | Robert Nkemdiche AZ
2016 | #30 | Vernon Butler CAR
2015 | #6 | Leonard Williams NYJ
2015 | #12 | Danny Shelton CLE
2015 | #32 | Malcolm Brown NE
2015 | #6 | Leonard Williams NYJ
2014 | #13 | Aaron Donald STL
2014 | #29 | Dominique Easley NE
2013 | #17 | Star Lotulelei CAR
2013 | #23 | Sharrif Floyd MIN
2013 | #28 | Sylvester Williams DEN
2012 | #11 | Dontari Poe KC
2012 | #12 | Fletcher Cox PHI
2012 | #14 | Michael Brockers STL
2011 | #3 | Marcell Dareus BUF
2011 | #13 | Nick Fairley DET
2011 | #21 | Phillip Taylor CLE
2011 | #30 | Muhammad Wilkerson NYJ
2010 | #2 | Ndamukong Suh DET
2010 | #3 | Gerald McCoy TB
2010 | #10 | Tyson Alualu JAX
2010 | #26 | Dan Williams AZ

7 of drafts
24 players
2 Super Bowls (Malcolm Brown lol, Fletcher Cox)

To be fair, if I did this with most, heck all, positions the numbers would play out similarly. But the number of wild misses at DT far outweighs the hits. There's two Hall of Famers in that list, at least 6 who aren't even playing or are rotation players, and a bunch of guys. Defensive Tackle is one of those positions where it's easy to get wow'd by the athleticism of a 350 lb man running a 40 time a second faster than your average desk jockey. But they don't move the needle on wins. How many of these guys drew Derrick Brown-esq scouting reports? I'd guess at least half.

The real lesson here for me is definitely to trade down and get picks. Because you're not smarter than anyone else. You'll fail way more than you'll hit. You just need more darts to throw at the board.

The Ravens and I agree.

Course the Ravens are pretty good at developing in defense in general which allows them to find guys later and let them develop.

Shame they can't do the same for WRs.

*Legion* wrote:

Ugh it's an ESPN/NFLN combined broadcast.

I have to listen to Kiper?

Booooo.

Yeah, I'm confused. Where should I be watching this?

MilkmanDanimal wrote:

I switched to YouTube TV; no NFL Network. They appear to be partnering with the NFL Network with Jeremiah on and I dig Trey Wingo at least, but I'll miss Rich Eisen.

No Todd McShay this year, because he's got COVID. That's a rather ominous start to the draft.

WHERE DO I GK TO GET AWAY FROM BOOGER?!?

f*cking NFL.

No matter how much I hate certain aspects of the league they are killing this.

Bengals FAIL

(Says the guy living near Cleveland.)

My “where should I watch this” question isn’t so dumb now!

jowner wrote:

f*cking NFL.

No matter how much I hate certain aspects of the league they are killing this.

It's why people saying there won't be an NFL season are off their rocker. There's so damn much money here they'll find a way.

(As an aside, I expect the season to run as normal but no clue about crowds.)

Vector wrote:

My “where should I watch this” question isn’t so dumb now!

Well now the answer is, "it doesn't matter".

Nothing interesting yet.

I miss the crowd noise.

Okudah is the lock here. Gotta be.

garion333 wrote:

I miss the crowd noise.

Okudah is the lock here. Gotta be.

Yup. Still boring so far.

Alright Gettleman, kick us off.

*Legion* wrote:
garion333 wrote:

I miss the crowd noise.

Okudah is the lock here. Gotta be.

Yup. Still boring so far.

Alright Gettleman, kick us off.

O! The Giants are next?

*gets popcorn*

Trade down or OT.

Gonna be a DT, eh?

Please draft a QB, Giants. Entertain us.

garion333 wrote:

Trade down or OT.

Gonna be a DT, eh?

Time running down.

Gettleman can't find the button.

Dave Gettleman "Hog Mollies" reference.

*drink*

I'm sad. This is boring.

Hmm. Surprised Thomas goes this high, but I get it. With questions about offseason, Thomas is the guy that actually has played left tackle.

The FIsh Tank is about to pay off?

I hate ESPN's broadcasts, I hate them so much.

I'd be trading up so hard for Tua.

Does ABC at least have the football novice version?

I’ve enjoyed watching the PFF YouTube livestream side by side with the ESPN cast

It is cool to see a black GM and coach combo. Good on the Dolphins

Jeez Goodell, you didn't think to practice saying "Tagovailoa"?

staygold wrote:

I’ve enjoyed watching the PFF YouTube livestream side by side with the ESPN cast

I'm flipping back and forth between these now.

*Legion* wrote:

Jeez Goodell, you didn't think to practice saying "Tagovailoa"?

Did Trump practice "coronavirus" before addressing the nation?

I’ll laugh so hard if the Chargers draft Herbert

Alright ESPN, showing Santa Maria boy Mark Brunell highlights wins you some points.