NFL 2019: Divisional Weekend!!

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garion333 wrote:

NFL doesn't have a minor league to toil in for five years. You can get paid straight out of college and be set for life. It's also hella fun compared to baseball.

Yup to the first part for sure. Long-term earning potential in MLB is much higher than NFL, but you have to make it out of the minors. If you're a pitcher, you have to stay healthy. If you're a hitter, you have to be able to hit a curveball. Russell Wilson can talk all he wants about how his heart was in football and that's why he went back, but he also couldn't hit a curveball and was unlikely to ever get out of the minors.

billt721 wrote:
garion333 wrote:

NFL doesn't have a minor league to toil in for five years. You can get paid straight out of college and be set for life. It's also hella fun compared to baseball.

Yup to the first part for sure. Long-term earning potential in MLB is much higher than NFL, but you have to make it out of the minors. If you're a pitcher, you have to stay healthy. If you're a hitter, you have to be able to hit a curveball. Russell Wilson can talk all he wants about how his heart was in football and that's why he went back, but he also couldn't hit a curveball and was unlikely to ever get out of the minors.

I understand the front loading of the NFL but Kyler wasn't exactly a deep round prospect.

He could of mucked around in lower tiers of baseball and if he's getting held back he's.... 22.

I know it's unprecedented. Or at least I can't think of any examples but if someone fizzled out in the MLB at 25-26 the option to break into the NFL wouldn't be 0%. Problem does circle back to the lack of a development league. Warner was 27 around when he was on the Rams in 1998.

*Legion* wrote:
garion333 wrote:

NFL doesn't have a minor league to toil in for five years. You can get paid straight out of college and be set for life. It's also hella fun compared to baseball.

Kyler Murray got $35m guaranteed in the NFL.

The #1 overall picks in the MLB draft in the last four years got about $7m to $8m signing bonus each, and have been in the minor leagues their whole careers so far.

If Murray is any good, he'll cash in again with his 5th year option and start negotiating his 2nd contract while some of those guys are still scratching to even make an MLB roster.

Conversely, there's a pretty damn good chance those MLB players will actually be able to walk and remember their own names by the time they're 50.

Also: NFL QB is one of the best jobs in the world.

Also, too: Baseball is f-----g boring. No one* cares!

* Not me, in other words.

jowner wrote:
billt721 wrote:
garion333 wrote:

NFL doesn't have a minor league to toil in for five years. You can get paid straight out of college and be set for life. It's also hella fun compared to baseball.

Yup to the first part for sure. Long-term earning potential in MLB is much higher than NFL, but you have to make it out of the minors. If you're a pitcher, you have to stay healthy. If you're a hitter, you have to be able to hit a curveball. Russell Wilson can talk all he wants about how his heart was in football and that's why he went back, but he also couldn't hit a curveball and was unlikely to ever get out of the minors.

I understand the front loading of the NFL but Kyler wasn't exactly a deep round prospect.

He could of mucked around in lower tiers of baseball and if he's getting held back he's.... 22.

I know it's unprecedented. Or at least I can't think of any examples but if someone fizzled out in the MLB at 25-26 the option to break into the NFL wouldn't be 0%. Problem does circle back to the lack of a development league. Warner was 27 around when he was on the Rams in 1998.

Brandon Weeden

Probably the best breakdown of what happened with the Ravens I have seen yet.

Larry Fitzgerald is playing in 2020. Nice!

MilkmanDanimal wrote:

Conversely, there's a pretty damn good chance those MLB players will actually be able to walk and remember their own names by the time they're 50.

Spoiler:

ok boomer

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HAROLD CARMICHAEL, going to Canton.

NFL.com wrote:

Harold Carmichael, WR, 1971-1983 Philadelphia Eagles/1984 Dallas Cowboys

There are prototypical wide receivers and there is Harold Carmichael, a Philly favorite who boasted a 6-foot-8, 225-pound frame. A four-time Pro Bowler, three-time All-Pro and NFL 1970s All-Decade Team honoree, the big-bodied Eagle produced three 1,000-yard seasons and proved pivotal in Philadelphia advancing to its first Super Bowl in 1980. He ended his days with the Eagles as the career leader in every major receiving statistic and for his career had 590 catches for 8,985 yards and 79 touchdowns.

Hrdina wrote:

HAROLD CARMICHAEL, going to Canton.

Harold Carmichael has never been on the cover of ESPN the Magazine!

I love Moss showing some respect for Harold Carmichael. When I was growing up, to me he was the definition of what a WR was. Hell, he was so awesome that I've even forgiven him for playing for Dallas.

There's a nice highlight reel on the Eagles site: https://www.philadelphiaeagles.com/n...

Plus, another ex-Eagles WR Hall-of-Famer, Cris "all he does is catch touchdowns" Carter.

*Legion* wrote:

Harold Carmichael has never been on the cover of ESPN the Magazine!

And now that it's shutting down, he never will.

*Legion* wrote:
garion333 wrote:

I would be curious what Stefansi brings to the table that other candidates didn't. DePodesta wanted him last year

True.

but what catapulted him into head coaching talk? I, literally, have no idea.

My guess is a combination of an appreciation for analytics and a lack of objection to having a franchise being run by some asshole in California.

As far as I can see, he interviewed for head coach with the Browns 3 times (twice last year, once this year), and was not interviewed by anyone else. So I question if he was legitimately a head coaching candidate in any other franchise's view. Media reports listing him as one might have been just the old combo of "who has interviewed as a head coach before" plus "who is a coordinator on a playoff team".

But the one thing that seems to be true is that Stefanski is the Browns choice in part because he's the one that will agree to some real nonsense:

that structure includes heavy involvement in game plans from owner Jimmy Haslam and the analytics team, headed up by DePodesta.

“Was also told candidates also had to agree to turn in game plans to the owner and analytics department on Friday and to attend an end-of-week analytics meeting to discuss their plan,” Fox tweeted out Sunday night.

It sounds like the lesson that the Haslams have learned from all these failures is, "we haven't been involved deeply enough".

While I question Stefanski's qualifications, I also won't be surprised if it turns out he's a decent coach that once again gets eaten up by the Browns organization.

Just catching up on this thread.

This whole passage is just so quintessential Browns. It's like they have some innate DNA to screw up everything.

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"Boys will be boys. Unless they're black, then we must harass and escalate!"

Cleveland Browns wrote:

We are aware of the incident and have been in touch with Odell and his representatives on the matter.

Is this the Browns laughing?

What's that cop even doing? Checking drinks? For booze?

Obj doing some very light AB stuff seeing if he can scare the Browns off him?

Wasn't even a cop, it was a security guard. Seriously filing a police complaint over that, what an insecure little man.

jowner wrote:

What's that cop even doing? Checking drinks? For booze?

I think it was related to the LSU players firing up celebratory cigars. The security officer (Leap is right, NOPD has confirmed it was not one of theirs) got super serious about the "no smoking indoors" law and accosted the players, who initially thought the guard was joking.

No doubt by complete coincidence, he seems to have escalated his behavior with some of LSU's black players, as Joe Burrow (also filmed enjoying a cigar) does not seem to have been bothered in the same way.

Lighting up cigars indoors, OK sure, not the best idea. And OBJ needs to keep his hands to himself, even if he thinks everyone is joking around. But what could have been dealt with with a quick warning became a confrontation over a civil violation that carries a fine of $25 for first time offenders.

Derek Carr plays backyard baseball with his 3-year-old and takes him yard

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