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All of his videos are good.

Meanwhile, in Minneapolis:

http://www.citypages.com/news/pack-h...

Aetius wrote:

Meanwhile, in Minneapolis:

http://www.citypages.com/news/pack-h...

The comments are incredibly racist. So, good find there. /s

I'm not sure the point of that link or anything really.. all I see is the invisible hand of the market redistributing wealth in a normal approved libertarian fashion.

oh wait.. Black people.. now I get the link.

TheGameguru wrote:

I'm not sure the point of that link or anything really.. all I see is the invisible hand of the market redistributing wealth in a normal approved libertarian fashion.

oh wait.. Black people.. now I get the link.

As I understand it, this quote unquote wave was prompted by the arrival of "No questions asked" cellphone sales kiosks in which you drop off a device at the machine and get cash back. Off course the kiosk owners deny any wrong doing and were apparently shocked at the resultant behaviors.

Reaper81 wrote:
TheGameguru wrote:

I'm not sure the point of that link or anything really.. all I see is the invisible hand of the market redistributing wealth in a normal approved libertarian fashion.

oh wait.. Black people.. now I get the link.

As I understand it, this quote unquote wave was prompted by the arrival of "No questions asked" cellphone sales kiosks in which you drop off a device at the machine and get cash back. Off course the kiosk owners deny any wrong doing and were apparently shocked at the resultant behaviors.

More evidence the free market works! Free of government interference and having to worry about pesky concepts like stolen goods.

As long as no one was taxed. That would be a real crime.

TheGameguru wrote:

I'm not sure the point of that link or anything really.. all I see is the invisible hand of the market redistributing wealth in a normal approved libertarian fashion.

There are several relevant points. One is that despite being horrifically sensational, the video has gotten zero traction in the national press. Why is that?

Second, if the victim had been armed, this makes it starkly clear that the common gun-control argument that you "only need a shotgun" or "only need a few bullets" is entirely without merit. How should someone defend themselves against a mob?

Obviously, this isn't libertarian, because of the egregious violations of the non-aggression principle.

Reaper81 wrote:

The comments are incredibly racist. So, good find there. /s

TheGameguru wrote:

oh wait.. Black people.. now I get the link.

Why is that relevant in any way? How would you describe the behavior shown in that video?

Reaper81 wrote:

As I understand it, this quote unquote wave was prompted by the arrival of "No questions asked" cellphone sales kiosks in which you drop off a device at the machine and get cash back. Off course the kiosk owners deny any wrong doing and were apparently shocked at the resultant behaviors.

Yes, obviously they were just interested in his phone.

...

Are you kidding?

Aetius wrote:

There are several relevant points. One is that despite being horrifically sensational, the video has gotten zero traction in the national press. Why is that?

Because exactly zero people died and the Minneapolis police have already arrested 20 and charged 18 people (or "pack hunters" as the totally not dog whistling article you linked to called them) for the attack on the video as well as other muggings? Because those arrests happened *the day before* the article you linked to was published?

As much as you're trying to present this as a complete collapse of civil society it was a brief, three week blip in crime in an area that, even with the blip, barely had one robbery a day. And after the arrests police say downtown Minneapolis robberies dropped to three per week, which is pretty much where they were last year.

Aetius wrote:

Second, if the victim had been armed, this makes it starkly clear that the common gun-control argument that you "only need a shotgun" or "only need a few bullets" is entirely without merit. How should someone defend themselves against a mob?

So how should someone defend themselves against a mob? Not being drunk and alone in a questionable area in the wee hours of the morning, as most victims were, would probably be a good start.

If the victim had been armed then he would have been breaking the law because it's illegal to pack heat when you're intoxicated in Minnesota. That and the robbers would have a shiny new gun. Which is exactly how hundreds of thousands of criminals get firearms every year: the stupidity and irresponsibility of gun owners.

OG_slinger wrote:

So how should someone defend themselves against a mob? Not being drunk and alone in a questionable area in the wee hours of the morning, as most victims were, would probably be a good start.

I guess they were asking for it...

Aetius wrote:
TheGameguru wrote:

I'm not sure the point of that link or anything really.. all I see is the invisible hand of the market redistributing wealth in a normal approved libertarian fashion.

There are several relevant points. One is that despite being horrifically sensational, the video has gotten zero traction in the national press. Why is that?

Second, if the victim had been armed, this makes it starkly clear that the common gun-control argument that you "only need a shotgun" or "only need a few bullets" is entirely without merit. How should someone defend themselves against a mob?

Obviously, this isn't libertarian, because of the egregious violations of the non-aggression principle.

Reaper81 wrote:

The comments are incredibly racist. So, good find there. /s

TheGameguru wrote:

oh wait.. Black people.. now I get the link.

Why is that relevant in any way? How would you describe the behavior shown in that video?

Reaper81 wrote:

As I understand it, this quote unquote wave was prompted by the arrival of "No questions asked" cellphone sales kiosks in which you drop off a device at the machine and get cash back. Off course the kiosk owners deny any wrong doing and were apparently shocked at the resultant behaviors.

Yes, obviously they were just interested in his phone.

...

Are you kidding?

Are you?

A minor uptick in agg. robbery that was handled over a month ago by law enforcement is nothing. It counts for less than nothing.

Now, I live in St. Paul. As my career began in juvenile justice and has progressed to clinical services, I am very familiar with patterns of crime and criminality in the Twin Cities metro and Greater Minnesota area.

I will tell you why I personally didn't give a hot sh*t about this hack job from the Cities Pages. It's old news. It's not even remotely representative of the real problems going on around here. You could have easily found the same exact stories from the Strib or Pioneer Press and linked them but you didn't.

We are in the midst of an unusually high series of firearms killings, several occuring less than a block from my house. It appears to be gang related retalitory killings but also just some random craziness. So, agg robbery and a few beatdowns from a month ago seem pretty trivial.

So what do we do? I don't know. Seems like cameras and law enforcement arrested those responsible and pressure is building to address shady business practices that led to this.

And your answer, as it has ever been, is to take some bullsh*t firearm safety class, strap on a f*cking concealed carry pistol, and gun people down.

How does one person defend against a mob? Great question. The historical answer has been greater numbers. More recent developments have focused on utilization of less than lethal tools to manage crowds and to prevent unnecessary escalation of the situation.

When I took my crowd control training, the only lethally armed individual in our riot control formations was the police lieutentant or force commander because the risk of inflaming an all out riot was considered far worse than a few cops or soldiers getting hurt.

Flash forward to Ferguson where every wannabe Billy Badass had a f*cking bayonet combat loaded on his armor and you can quickly see how force posture matters and aggression is met with unmanageable escalating responses.

Well, sh*t. If I don't have a small army of bros, I guess I better bring my gun! I have seen a SAW gunner get knocked the f*ck out by a brick to the KEVLAR HELMET, my dude. He had about 400 rounds for a battle tested, casualty producing weapon and it didn't matter one bit.

And you think what? 15 rounds of .40 or .45 ACP is going to matter? While you are trying to figure out who to shoot first, the bricks, bottles, and chains are already flying.

But yes, let's all strap up.

That's one damn sexy rant there, Reaper.

OG_slinger wrote:

That's one damn sexy rant there, Reaper. ;-)

Love you, boo.

Aetius wrote:
TheGameguru wrote:

I'm not sure the point of that link or anything really.. all I see is the invisible hand of the market redistributing wealth in a normal approved libertarian fashion.

There are several relevant points. One is that despite being horrifically sensational, the video has gotten zero traction in the national press. Why is that?

Second, if the victim had been armed, this makes it starkly clear that the common gun-control argument that you "only need a shotgun" or "only need a few bullets" is entirely without merit. How should someone defend themselves against a mob?

Obviously, this isn't libertarian, because of the egregious violations of the non-aggression principle.

Reaper81 wrote:

The comments are incredibly racist. So, good find there. /s

TheGameguru wrote:

oh wait.. Black people.. now I get the link.

Why is that relevant in any way? How would you describe the behavior shown in that video?

Reaper81 wrote:

As I understand it, this quote unquote wave was prompted by the arrival of "No questions asked" cellphone sales kiosks in which you drop off a device at the machine and get cash back. Off course the kiosk owners deny any wrong doing and were apparently shocked at the resultant behaviors.

Yes, obviously they were just interested in his phone.

...

Are you kidding?

The fact that your brought this article up and made such a big deal about it is very eyebrow raising. Theres all sorts of crazy sh*t going on every day but yet you made a point to bring up an article that on my alt right fake twitter account is/was used for the very real and very racist not dogwhistle to scare up white folk that roaming packs of black antifa thugs were waiting to behead them.

Theres all sorts of government corruption going on every day and the best we can expect from our resident libertarian is this sh*t?? oh and maybe a both sides argument once in a while.

The video was being posted on right wing websites as "proof" of Somali mobs in Ilhan Omar's district. None of the people arrested are Somali.

Oh, and if you want to see a mob go after two armed soldiers, this incident springs to mind. I'm not linking the full footage as it's quite disturbing.

Bonus points: Notice the mob is all "white", whatever that means.

Why Are Poor Countries Poor?

Does More Social Spending Reduce Healthcare Costs?

Andrew Jackson Jihad just released the new theme song for this upcoming year:

Who pays the lowest taxes in the US?

This video does a great job of showing one of the largest current political divides in the US. Let’s see if you can pick up on what that is.

Was it too subtle?

f*cking Boomers...

A much less scary, slightly more uplifting movie ending: SOYLENT GREEN IS MADE OF BOOMERS!! BOOOOMMERRRRRS!!!

I just finished the TV show “Years and Years”. A couple of standout scenes stuck with me, though, and are really important, even without the context of the show.

Where is the Waste in Health Spending?

TW: Gun violence

That was incredibly powerful. I’m impressed.

I’ll add a trigger warning for gun violence.

MathGoddess wrote:

That was incredibly powerful. I’m impressed.

I’ll add a trigger warning for gun violence.

Thanks, added.