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Just finished watching season 3 - A-mazin’

I was all ready to ship the heck out of a certain pair of characters...but then the show went and did it for me!

The Dragon Prince question.

Spoiler:

Why was the prince jailed? Or I guess he was the king actually. I know he made it so anyone could not fight if they wanted but I missed why they jailed him for it.

Might be relevant for those of you watching The Dragon Prince, in case y'all weren't aware.

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Rats. That's not good.

Gah! Why must cis men in positions of power ruin everything they touch!

^ Surely you can express your dismay at this situation without resorting to hate speech.

Where's the hate speech?

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pyxistyx wrote:

Gah! Why must cis men in positions of power ruin everything they touch!

That's neither abusive nor threatening. More like a statement of fact at this point.

If you don't see anything abusive or expressive of prejudice about declaring that a group, by virtue of their gender and sexual orientation, "ruin everything they touch," then I don't think we're going to have a very productive conversation.

#notallmen is never a productive conversation

Hey I can play that game too...

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Stengah wrote:

That's neither abusive nor threatening. More like a statement of fact at this point.

muttonchop wrote:

#notallmen is never a productive conversation

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Hate speech is aimed at socially marginalized and oppressed peoples. White dudes in power ain't it, chief..

b12n11w00t wrote:

Hate speech is aimed at socially marginalized and oppressed peoples. White dudes in power ain't it, chief..

Hate speech is itself a form of marginalization. Defining it such that it only applies to marginalized peoples is a tautology.

hbi2k wrote:
b12n11w00t wrote:

Hate speech is aimed at socially marginalized and oppressed peoples. White dudes in power ain't it, chief..

Hate speech is itself a form of marginalization. Defining it such that it only applies to marginalized peoples is a tautology.

I just rolled my eyes so hard I'm going to need an optometrist. That statement is ridiculous. Calling out cis dudes isn't hate speech, and it isn't oppression. Get your head out of your ass. If you want to discuss this take it to the men talking to men about Feminism thread.

hbi2k wrote:
b12n11w00t wrote:

Hate speech is aimed at socially marginalized and oppressed peoples. White dudes in power ain't it, chief..

Hate speech is itself a form of marginalization. Defining it such that it only applies to marginalized peoples is a tautology.

Incorrect.

pyxistyx wrote:

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The tone of your statement is not what I object to, but the content.

NathanialG wrote:

Calling out cis dudes isn't hate speech, and it isn't oppression.

"Calling out" anyone on the basis of their actions is different from calling them out on the basis of their race and gender orientation / identity.

hbi2k wrote:
NathanialG wrote:

Calling out cis dudes isn't hate speech, and it isn't oppression.

"Calling out" anyone on the basis of their actions is different from calling them out on the basis of their race and gender orientation / identity.

Great, pyx might have made a generalization but it still wasn't wasn't hate speech or oppression. And seriously lets take this elsewhere. Start your own D&D thread or the Men Talking to Men about Feminism.

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hbi2k, it's not hate speech. You seem to not be seeing a key thrust of her statement (note, specifically, the "in positions of power" part) in order to take umbrage with cis and male parts of the statement. All three are key to her point, and missing some of those things means you're missing all of it. I hope this is an opportunity to reflect on why that might be.

NathanielG, it's not okay to attack people personally on our forums (heads, asses, etc) no matter how much you disagree. Please don't do it again.

Baron Of Hell wrote:

The Dragon Prince question.

Spoiler:

Why was the prince jailed? Or I guess he was the king actually. I know he made it so anyone could not fight if they wanted but I missed why they jailed him for it.

Found the answer on reddit. Probably the biggest misstep and maybe the only one for the show so far. No way a kid is going to be able to follow the sequence of events that explains what happened. This is mostly because some of it is implied rather than shown.

Spoiler:

We know the little king was approached about a deal but we don't learn about the terms of that deal until after everything goes down.

The big thing is we are never told why did the king go along with something this stupid. You are going to put the evil guy in charge and hope he keeps his words? Why didn't the good advisers put a stop to this or at least raise a word of warning?

I understand the other king was putting pressure on the kid by threatening to invade but that was a obvious bluff. And again the good advisers should have said something about it.

On a different note there were several Avatar references in the show. The last air bender not the blue animal people movie.

Also they really done away with that stupid animation skipping. Much more enjoyable to watch without the skip frames.

I finally had a chance to finish She-Ra season 4. It was a bit slow to get into (which is why I ended up putting it off until now) and the middle had some pretty cringy scenes but wow was the second half a roller coaster!

Oy. I thought the wait between seasons 3 and 4 was going to be tough. That was NOTHING like what the wait from 4 to 5 is going to be like!

I really need to pick up She-Ra again. Dropped off after the first season. Meant to watch it in recovery and never got around to it and now my PS4 is elsewhere for a bit. I'll have to try slowly metering it out so I'm not dealing with the jonesing like you are

Watched the first episode of Harley Quinn. Ultra violent, very bad language, and pretty crazy. The show is a parody and not serious at all. Harley is the craziest in the world but everyone acts in a crazy way. An adult looney tunes if you will.

Animation was good for the tone they were going for. Voice acting was okay but I didn't care for Harley's voice. The actress was fine I just like the animated series version better.

Yeah, it's pretty silly and ultra-violent. Seems good so far.

Spoiler:

"I told you to get a CostCo card."
"And I told you I only go there once a year so it doesn't pay for itself, chief!"

I lol'd

They retconned Harley and Ivy to being "just friends" so....nah. I'll pass.

Oh man, I just finished Dragon Prince season 3. I _really_ wanted to savor this one so I took my time and spread it out over a week or so (unlike my daughter who binged it in one afternoon/evening and kept pestering me about when I would finish it!)

I took a break for a little while right after the end of episode 5 to savor it. Quite honestly, if that was the end of the series, I would have been okay with it right then and there. I kept worrying that there might be some anime-esque twist which would shatter all that, but boy, am I glad that I pressed forward (like I'd be able to not keep watching!)

I can honestly say that I cannot remember having watched an animated series as compelling and engaging as this one. All of the threads of the story came together so smoothly and seamlessly at the ending to create a final scene that was, quite frankly, and emotional triumph. I haven't felt this good after finishing a piece of fiction in decades. I swear it brought me back to my childhood when I first discovered sci-fi and fantasy novels and would spend hours lost in their grip.

This show could very easily have descended into a dark place reminiscent of Game of Thrones but it never did. Even at the darkest points, it had a way of breaking it to you gently and then lightly carrying you on to the next thing. Even in some of the most tense and grim moments, the show had ways of giving you that bit of hope

Spoiler:

I'm looking at you, weaponized jelly tarts

I'd say the only mild criticism that I have is that season 3 just went by too quickly (well, that and maybe 1-2 brief overly-silly moments). The world is so rich and interesting that the writers could spent at least another season getting to this point it if they had the time and resources and the story wouldn't have suffered in the least. Ah well. Best to end on such a high note and leave the audience craving for more!

I just discovered this: https://www.amazon.com/Book-One-Moon... which should come out in May of next year. That's definitely going on my wish list!

Harley Quinn episode 2 was better than the first episode which I liked.

Best moment

Spoiler:

When the kid said he was still a little bit tree.

Most shocking

Spoiler:

talking about finger banging with kids.

Then they brought the joke around at the end.

One interesting thing is that the episode was a continuation of the first episode. With the wacky style I thought the episodes would be self contained. I also liked how they pulled out a super minor character in the batman universe and made him funny.

New season of Steven Universe started. The new series is called Steven Universe Future. Four episodes have aired so far. I have only seen two but so far it is same old steven universe which is a good thing. Only thing different is that steven is a man now. A man with needs. You know like the need to help everyone. So same old steven just older.

Harley Quinn ep 1 is free on youtube posted by DC.